If you are Christian can you...

[steve_bank]

Ta gotta love Christianity. Take a solemn vow before god until death do we part. Make a lot of money and discard your wife for a young trophy wife....

What's the logical/causal connection between Christianity and your trophy wife example?

This entire thread is based on your amphibology fallacy.
You ambiguously equate the verb to be capable with to be allowed.
Then you run this lame...Chrirstianity lets you do whatever you want canard.

I have a decent vocabulary, but amphibology?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Finally, there is no time limit on being saved.

Well, not quite.
I have spent nearly 50 years seeking some evidence of this godthing that stands up to scrutiny. None has been forthcoming.
I get bad math, piss poor science, blame, dismissal, and claims tgat contradictory god-concepts are just obvious.
But i also am assured that i will face one or another god in all his objective glory immediately post-mortem. I will have all the proof i could ever have wanted for fill-in-the-deity...but it will be juuuuuuuuust too late.
The Faithful crow about that fact. Evrry time a scientist dies, the Creationists brag that now he knows the truth, but it's too late.
Every time a famous atheist dies, now-he-knows-but-he's-in-hell.
Every time an abortion-rights activist dies, or a church-state-separation judge, or a religion-snarking comedian, someone either assures us they converted on the deathbed, or they have no chance to use the kniiwledge they now possess.
Usually with either glee or poorly hidden glee.

 

[bilby]

Ta gotta love Christianity. Take a solemn vow before god until death do we part. Make a lot of money and discard your wife for a young trophy wife....

What's the logical/causal connection between Christianity and your trophy wife example?

This entire thread is based on your amphibology fallacy.
You ambiguously equate the verb to be capable with to be allowed.
Then you run this lame...Chrirstianity lets you do whatever you want canard.

I have a decent vocabulary, but amphibology?

It's a perfectly cromulent word.

 

[steve_bank]

You are married and go with a hooker, tell it in confession, say some prayers, and all is forgiven.

Next week, you are married and go with a hooker, tell it in confession, say some prayers, and all is forgiven.

I grew up Catholic. I member sitting in a dimly lit old New England gothic church waiting for confession. There was a booth. the priest sat in the middle wit a space on each end. I guess to increase throughput one person could be waiting while the priest dealt with the other.

You kneel down in a dark space and the priest goes through the ritual and gives your penance. You go to the alter and pray. All is forgiven.

A terrible thing to do to young kids. I am sure all of us at that age in school made things up sometimes. Found something to feel guilty for. I think most of us who went through the indoctrination but left as adults are left with lingering sense of guilt for leaving, a product of the indoctrination. Or better called propaganda conditioning based in fear.

 

[Lion IRC]

That is a valiant attempt to salvage steve_banks' Op but if you've been following the thread you'll see that's NOT his view.

He won't clarify his point by asking...

"Can you be a Christian and defiantly disobey God (sin) as often as you like with some sort of 'hall pass' mentality."

The answer to which is an emphatic - no.

You are confronted with an inconvenient passage where Jesus reaffirms Moses and prophets. In another passage he reaffirms Moses' ban on divorce, 'what god has put together let no man put asunder'.

It is inescapable, to be a follower of Jesus you must keep kosher. If you want to say the bible is the word of god.

The sort of (heterosexual) marital monogamy Jesus and Moses affirm is not confronting or inconvenient to me. It might be to Herod Antipas or Henry VIII but not me.

If you would stick to a consistent meaning of the term "can you" when asking about what Jesus does and does not condemn, then I will accordingly give you a consistent no, you cant commit adultery.

But you think there is some sort of clever 'gotcha' in asking... "can you do this or that if you are a Christian?" - then when a Christian says no, you hold up an example of someone who DID do that thing. Really? Is that your idea of painting someone into a corner?

No - according to Christianity, you can't dump your wife and go after a midlife crisis trophy wife.