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Indictment coming for Netanyahu

There's no choice involved. They've long since learned the Palestinians aren't interested in a peace that leaves Israel existing. Thus their strategy is to keep the lid on at a minimum cost.




Israel shouldn't have made the settlements. However, the land was conquered, it was theirs to do what they want with. The Palestinians chose the losing side. (Note that at the time of the original war many simply stayed out of it rather than casting their lot with the Arabs. The vast majority of those are now Israeli citizens with full rights.)

It is amazing to find open Nazis strutting about, even in the USA. Have you no concept of decency at all?

Remember who started it. I don't care if the aggressor gets their ass kicked and loses some land in the process.
 
It is amazing to find open Nazis strutting about, even in the USA. Have you no concept of decency at all?

Remember who started it. I don't care if the aggressor gets their ass kicked and loses some land in the process.

The Israeli Zionists are the aggressors, just so you know. But it's nice to know you've fallen back from trying to justify any legal land claim the then-non-existent state of Israel had to land that wasn't thiers. It means we're making progress!
 
It is amazing to find open Nazis strutting about, even in the USA. Have you no concept of decency at all?

Remember who started it. I don't care if the aggressor gets their ass kicked and loses some land in the process.

When the day comes in the future when Israel finally bites off more than it can chew and winds up paying dearly for that military miscalculation (as happened in the Yom Kippur War) I'll remind you of this statement.

And the previous PM to be indicted (and actually convicted and imprisoned) was Olmert. He's recently been released.

I'll say this for the Israelis, they have no hesitation to throw their leaders and former leaders in prison if they deserve it. I'm almost jealous.
 
It is amazing to find open Nazis strutting about, even in the USA. Have you no concept of decency at all?

Remember who started it. I don't care if the aggressor gets their ass kicked and loses some land in the process.

I'm glad that you are for the elimination of the racist Khazar colony. Free Palestine now!
 
We need some fake Native American propaganda about the return of the Native American promised land, guaranteed by the Great Spirit (God), and then allow various nations to give them weapons to prop up their promised land.

That would work well.
 
I'm glad that you are for the elimination of the racist Khazar colony.
The Khazar Jew myth is some straight Neo-Nazi bullshit. Why don't you go march in Charlottesville, Nazi!

I dunno about ethnicity but there was in fact a Jewish Kingdom of Khazar, but it was made up of Turkish converts among the ruling class as I understand it.
 
Remember who started it. I don't care if the aggressor gets their ass kicked and loses some land in the process.

The Israeli Zionists are the aggressors, just so you know. But it's nice to know you've fallen back from trying to justify any legal land claim the then-non-existent state of Israel had to land that wasn't thiers. It means we're making progress!

Reality:

The 1948 war started with the Arab attack on Israel.

The 1967 war started with the Egyptian blockade of Israel.

Of course that doesn't address the real issue that the Jews are the aggressor by refusing to be second class citizens.
 
Remember who started it. I don't care if the aggressor gets their ass kicked and loses some land in the process.

When the day comes in the future when Israel finally bites off more than it can chew and winds up paying dearly for that military miscalculation (as happened in the Yom Kippur War) I'll remind you of this statement.

Reality check: The Yom Kippur war went badly because Israel listened to the peaceniks, including those in our own government, and didn't prepare adequately for the Arab attack. You were listening to the Jews-are-always-wrong mantra, weren't you, in thinking that they bit off anything.
 
When the day comes in the future when Israel finally bites off more than it can chew and winds up paying dearly for that military miscalculation (as happened in the Yom Kippur War) I'll remind you of this statement.

Reality check: The Yom Kippur war went badly because Israel listened to the peaceniks, including those in our own government, and didn't prepare adequately for the Arab attack. You were listening to the Jews-are-always-wrong mantra, weren't you, in thinking that they bit off anything.

They bit off the Sinai. Egypt made them spit it back out.

They're still chewing on Gaza and the West Bank... time will tell if they can keep them.
 
Reality check: The Yom Kippur war went badly because Israel listened to the peaceniks, including those in our own government, and didn't prepare adequately for the Arab attack. You were listening to the Jews-are-always-wrong mantra, weren't you, in thinking that they bit off anything.

They bit off the Sinai. Egypt made them spit it back out.

They're still chewing on Gaza and the West Bank... time will tell if they can keep them.

Egypt didn't. They were returned when Egypt got sensible and made peace.
 
The Israeli Zionists are the aggressors, just so you know. But it's nice to know you've fallen back from trying to justify any legal land claim the then-non-existent state of Israel had to land that wasn't thiers. It means we're making progress!

Reality:

The 1948 war started with the Arab attack on Israel.

The 1967 war started with the Egyptian blockade of Israel.

Of course that doesn't address the real issue that the Jews are the aggressor by refusing to be second class citizens.

Reality:

The Zionist terrorist attacks carried out by Menachim Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, and their Irgun and Lehi cohorts started in the 1930s. The massacres at Deir Yassin and other nearby villages also pre-date the declaration of Israel's existence. So while the war with Egypt might be said to have started when Israel declared its independence, the fighting with TransJordan began much earlier, and it was started by militant Zionists.

Israel launched a pre-emptive strike in 1967 that started the war.

Loren know both these facts but usually pretends he doesn't so he can defend Israel with his special bullshit attacks. But at least he's not claiming the Jews were enslaved by their neighbors in Palestine.
 
Reality:

The 1948 war started with the Arab attack on Israel.

The 1967 war started with the Egyptian blockade of Israel.

Of course that doesn't address the real issue that the Jews are the aggressor by refusing to be second class citizens.

Reality:

The Zionist terrorist attacks carried out by Menachim Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, and their Irgun and Lehi cohorts started in the 1930s. The massacres at Deir Yassin and other nearby villages also pre-date the declaration of Israel's existence. So while the war with Egypt might be said to have started when Israel declared its independence, the fighting with TransJordan began much earlier, and it was started by militant Zionists.

Israel launched a pre-emptive strike in 1967 that started the war.

Loren know both these facts but usually pretends he doesn't so he can defend Israel with his special bullshit attacks. But at least he's not claiming the Jews were enslaved by their neighbors in Palestine.

The Muslim attacks on Jews predate even the 1930s.

And Deir Yassin is what sometimes happens when people fight in civilian attire.

And a state of war actually existed when Israel launched that strike. Blockades are acts of war. The Egyptian declaration of a blockade was the actual start of the war. Blockades are usually done by big countries to small countries who obviously choose to let it remain a non-shooting war. Israel didn't. They took advantage of Egypt's stupidity in going to war before they were actually ready to attack with a strike on the Egyptian air force.
 
So long as Israel keeps Palestinians from having either independence or equal Israeli citizenship, Israel has no claim to any moral high ground.
 
So long as Israel keeps Palestinians from having either independence or equal Israeli citizenship, Israel has no claim to any moral high ground.

Palestinians could have their own state in 1948. They refused because they wanted the whole enchilada falafel.
Palestinians could have had their own state between 1948 and 1967 but Egypt and Jordan would not let them.
Palestinians could have had their own state in 2000 after Camp David negotiations, but Yasser Arafat (the least deserving Nobel Peace Prize recipient ever) decided to start the Second Intifada instead.
Palestinians got unilateral disengagement from Gaza in 2005, but instead of building on this toward peace, they launched hundreds of rockets instead and elected Hamas (which has destuction of Israel as its raison d'etre).

Blaming Israel is ridiculous.
 
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