bilby said:
For fucks sake. I will say this one last time.
Nobody starts out as a licensed prostitute. So no one is forced to stop being racist or lose their job. People who are racist are not allowed to START being prostitutes.
I. Actually, there already
are prostitutes. Some of them work illegally, some legally, depending on the jurisdiction.
So, let's consider a case where there are prostitutes working illegally, say New Orleans.
I. a. Do you propose legalizing prostitution in that case?
It seems you do, given that you said in this thread.
I. b. Do you propose
enforcing the new laws,
actually doing something to prevent unlicensed prostitutes from working illegally as prostitutes?
II. Let us now consider a case where prostitutes are working legally, say in Nevada.
I already presented the scenarios:
The events happen in a legal brothel in Nevada.
II. 1. Whenever an old client shows up, Sandy refuses to have sex with them. In fact, she does not even show up in the room for prostitutes from which the client would pick. But she doesn't do that with any other category of clients. Jane, who manages the place, tells her to stop doing that, or she'll get fired. Is Jane coercing Sandy?
II. 2. Whenever a client wearing a cross or a crucifix shows up, Ginger refuses to have sex with them. In fact, she does not even show up in the room for prostitutes from which the client would pick. But she doesn't do that with any other category of clients. Jane, who manages the place, tells her to stop doing that, or she'll get fired. Is Jane coercing Ginger?
II. 3. Whenever a Black client shows up, Sage refuses to have sex with them. In fact, she does not even show up in the room for prostitutes from which the client would pick. But she doesn't do that with any other category of clients. Jane, who manages the place, tells her to stop doing that, or she'll get fired. Is Jane coercing Sage?
II. 4. Whenever a female client shows up, Angelica refuses to have sex with her. In fact, she does not even show up in the room for prostitutes from which the client would pick. But she doesn't do that with any other category of clients. Jane, who manages the place, tells her to stop doing that, or she'll get fired. Is Jane coercing Angelica?
II. 5. Whenever a Black male client shows up, Dahlia refuses to have sex with him. In fact, she does not even show up in the room for prostitutes from which the client would pick. But she doesn't do that with any other category of clients. Jane, who manages the place, tells her to stop doing that, or she'll get fired. Is Jane coercing Dahlia?
Now, let's consider the matter from the perspective of your proposal.
II. a. Do you propose that any of the prostitutes above be forced by the state to choose between no longer discriminating in that fashion, and lose their jobs?
II. b. If the answer is affirmative, do you propose that the police handle the matter if they receive a call, or that someone else in the government do? Do you also propose proactive checking by the government, or only after receiving complaints?
bilby said:
No one is forced to fuck anyone. No one is allowed to be racist when selling ANYTHING.
No matter how much people want to make racism a special and protected prejudice. No matter how much people want to claim that sex is somehow different from other personal services.
I already explained, repeatedly, that your proposed law sides with the villains.
But again, what would you think of a man of race X to hire a prostitute he knows is a racist who would suffer for having sex with anyone of race X, but he wagers she would not want to risk losing her license (with consequences for her and her family, etc.), so she will likely put up?
The point is that regardless of whether she actually puts up, his behavior is morally appalling. So, by banning some immoral behavior, this proposed licensing system supports something a lot worse.
Yes, granting, the prostitute may well be able to avoid the law, since chances are in most cases, the man in question would have a difficult time showing that she's discriminating on the basis of race, but the point remains that
the law sides with him; if she manages to avoid that unjust law, good for her, but the law still sides with him – not to mention, in some cases, she might not manage to avoid facing that situation.
bilby said:
I am fed up with being repeatedly told that I advocate something I have explicitly and repeatedly declared that I am opposed to in the strongest terms; you can all take your smug closeted racism and stick it up your arses.
Your accusation of racism is both unjustified and false.
Regardless, even if your accusations were true and you had gotten it right out of sheer luck – since there is no evidence whatsoever of racism on my part, or on the part of other posters who oppose your views -, that would not make arguments any better, nor would it change the facts that what you advocate is a bad policy, that the law would side with the villains, etc.
In fact, if a racist showed up and made the arguments some of us are making, he would be right about that – and wrong about his racism, but that's another matter.