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It's a miracle! The disembodied voice of ... something...talks to first responders

The Jesus jumpers are all over this one:

Three police officers and two firemen outside Salt Lake City, Utah, say they heard a mysterious voice asking for help before they knew a toddler was in a submerged car for 13 hours

https://gma.yahoo.com/salt-lake-cit...opstories.html?bcmt_s=u&bcmt=comments-postbox


They responded too late. The voice was the toddler's dead mother.

That's what I think as well - that or mass hysteria - but the Christians are diving head first into this because the first responders are claiming the mother probably died on impact. So she couldn't have called out.
 
They responded too late. The voice was the toddler's dead mother.

That's what I think as well - that or mass hysteria - but the Christians are diving head first into this because the first responders are claiming the mother probably died on impact. So she couldn't have called out.

'Probably' is a great word.

The mother 'probably' died on impact, so the voice was 'probably' supernatural, because supernatural events are so, well, probable. :rolleyesa:
 
They responded too late. The voice was the toddler's dead mother.
The car was submerged for 13 hours. It would have been one hell of a coincidence if the mother survived those 13 hours, was still conscious and called out for help, but died seconds later.
So that explanation doesn't really work. Not that the angel/Jesus hypothesis works any better.
 
They responded too late. The voice was the toddler's dead mother.
The car was submerged for 13 hours. It would have been one hell of a coincidence if the mother survived those 13 hours, was still conscious and called out for help, but died seconds later.
So that explanation doesn't really work. Not that the angel/Jesus hypothesis works any better.

You can't explain it, therefore magic!

You yourself admit that there's no explanation, and we all know lack of an explanation proves magic!
 
I blame OnStar....

ETA - Actually, it looks to me as though the car in question was a Dodge Caliber, which wouldn't have had OnStar installed at the factory. But it could have been added later...
 
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Of course if it's (apparently) inexplicable, it must be God. Who himself is actually inexplicable, but let's pretend that's an explanation.

Then ask why God didn't help himself. Ahh... something about moving in mysterious ways?

Meanwhile, a kid has died.
 
It was the oddest thing. We saw an overturned vehicle in the river and we felt compelled to check to see if anyone was alive. It had nothing to do with our training or anything.

And of course, it could have been the baby making a noise because it sounded like a woman's voice... of course, what a baby sounds like in an overturned submerged vehicle may not be common knowledge.

Glad the baby is safe, sad the mother is dead. Rolling my eyes over a miracle where a woman died. That isn't a fucking miracle. It is called a tragedy.
 
They heard a woman's voice from the water... Huh.

Pythagoras used to scare the shit out of his students by holding conversations with a river. Ventriloquism experts have said that the description of the river's voice makes it likely that the philosopher was throwing his voice.

Maybe a first responder was jokingly making it seem like someone in the car was asking for help. "Help, help! My GPS can't get me out of this!" ...and then pissed himself when they found the baby... He's certainly not going to admit to it NOW, what with the woman being dead. That just sucked all the funny out of the joke.
 
I don't know if there are any wild animals or birds in the area of the accident, but that's what I suspect they heard.
 


What does it say? My virus detector won't let me go there.
Amid the links to stories about bigfoot and ghosts dictating books:
But there may be another explanation. No one is suggesting that the police officers made up the story of the mysterious voice. However illusory voices and signs of life can be created by well-understood psychological process called apophenia, which cause people to “hear” distinct sounds and voices in random white noise patterns such as the background static in an audio recording –like hearing a non-ringing doorbell or the telephone while in the shower.

For example in June 2012, customs officials at a New Jersey port stopped and searched a cargo ship for dozens of hidden stowaways. According to an ABC News report:

“The ordeal began around 3 a.m. Wednesday, after a Coast Guard patrol stop at the mouth of New York harbor, when officials conducting a routine check of the cargo ship believed they may have heard faint knocking coming from one of the containers onboard…. The ship had been out to sea for more than two weeks prior to docking, leading authorities to fear for the health of the alleged stowaways.” Not only had the officials heard knocking from the container, but they also believed that the stowaways were responding to their calls and requests: “officers heard noises ‘consistent with the possible presence of stowaways’ coming from one of the containers in the ship’s hull, said Charles Rowe, a Coast Guard spokesman. ‘When we knocked, we heard a knock back,’ he said.”
After over 150 cargo containers had been opened and thoroughly examined, the search was called off. No one was found, either at the time or in the following weeks. It had all been a mistake, a sincere misunderstanding. The knocking that the customs agents believed was created by humans was not.
 
What does it say? My virus detector won't let me go there.
Amid the links to stories about bigfoot and ghosts dictating books:
But there may be another explanation. No one is suggesting that the police officers made up the story of the mysterious voice. However illusory voices and signs of life can be created by well-understood psychological process called apophenia, which cause people to “hear” distinct sounds and voices in random white noise patterns such as the background static in an audio recording –like hearing a non-ringing doorbell or the telephone while in the shower.

For example in June 2012, customs officials at a New Jersey port stopped and searched a cargo ship for dozens of hidden stowaways. According to an ABC News report:

“The ordeal began around 3 a.m. Wednesday, after a Coast Guard patrol stop at the mouth of New York harbor, when officials conducting a routine check of the cargo ship believed they may have heard faint knocking coming from one of the containers onboard…. The ship had been out to sea for more than two weeks prior to docking, leading authorities to fear for the health of the alleged stowaways.” Not only had the officials heard knocking from the container, but they also believed that the stowaways were responding to their calls and requests: “officers heard noises ‘consistent with the possible presence of stowaways’ coming from one of the containers in the ship’s hull, said Charles Rowe, a Coast Guard spokesman. ‘When we knocked, we heard a knock back,’ he said.”
After over 150 cargo containers had been opened and thoroughly examined, the search was called off. No one was found, either at the time or in the following weeks. It had all been a mistake, a sincere misunderstanding. The knocking that the customs agents believed was created by humans was not.

Thanks.

I definitely go along with this. The first responders were already under stress, they're near a body of running water, which can make sounds like conversation or voices. Other responders are on the bridge, probably talking. I'm sure people are using phones and radios and sound travels well over water. Perfect environment for people to hear things.
 
Yep. I remember being a kid up at our family cabin and resting on one of the beds, while the creek next to the cabin was babbling away. While resting I "heard" a radio going, and listened to it for a long time (many minutes). Both music and talking. When I finally got up, I found out there was no actual radio playing. In fact, no one had even brought a radio up on that trip. It freaked me out, and still does to this day. I realize now that it was the creek fucking with my head. Though, it would be weird for more than one person to hear the exact same sounds though, as in the OP, I would think.
 
Yep. I remember being a kid up at our family cabin and resting on one of the beds, while the creek next to the cabin was babbling away. While resting I "heard" a radio going, and listened to it for a long time (many minutes). Both music and talking. When I finally got up, I found out there was no actual radio playing. In fact, no one had even brought a radio up on that trip. It freaked me out, and still does to this day. I realize now that it was the creek fucking with my head. Though, it would be weird for more than one person to hear the exact same sounds though, as in the OP, I would think.

We don't know that they all did. They only claimed to. For all we know, one guy thought he did, then turned to the others and said, "Hey, do you hear that? Someone's calling for help." and then the others heard what first responders want to hear.
 
Though, it would be weird for more than one person to hear the exact same sounds though, as in the OP, I would think.
Derec's article also considers that it's possible only one person heard it at the river, and the others misremembered, "Now that you mention it, I heard a voice, too!"

Personally, i think it was Bigfoot. Time-traveling Bigfoot.
 
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