Jerusalem Gay Pride: Six stabbed 'by ultra-Orthodox Jew'

[Cerberus]

I strongly suspect that it would serve your interest in not having things "rammed down your throat" to not always have your mouth open. Me thinks you protest too much.

Do you think it's because I'm struggling to come out of the closet?

 

[Cerberus]

Nobody 'hates' homosexuals, we just don't want their sexual propensities, subliminally or explicitly, rammed down our throats at every opportunity any more than we want heteros grandstanding.

If someone is trying to ram sexual propensities down your throat, the first thing you should do is shut your mouth. The second thing you should do is watch your back, because some of those folks aren't content to merely force you to swallow their sexual dictates, they'll stab you in the back if you refuse.

But if all they are doing is informing you that they have sexual propensities that differ from yours, and they aren't hurting anyone, what's the problem?

Well excuse me for having an opinion!

 

[RavenSky]

I am not going to quote virtually every post you have written since you joined this board.

... I asked specifically for homophobic posts on this thread... So - off you go???

No you didn't

Can you please quote what I said which you consider was homophobic? Thank you.

So off YOU go...

 

[Cerberus]

... I asked specifically for homophobic posts on this thread... So - off you go???

No you didn't

Can you please quote what I said which you consider was homophobic? Thank you.

So off YOU go...

Whether I did or not, I notice you haven't given an example of my perceived homophobia; but then I'm used to individuals gobbing off, then failing to meet my challenges when requested to, so don't feel the need to apologise.

 

[RavenSky]

No you didn't

Can you please quote what I said which you consider was homophobic? Thank you.

So off YOU go...

Whether I did or not, I notice you haven't given an example of my perceived homophobia; but then I'm used to individuals gobbing off, then failing to meet my challenges when requested to, so don't feel the need to apologise.

You are correct about one thing. I will never apologize for calling out bigotry and homophobia wherever I see it

 

[Keith&Co.]

You're really obsessed with where teh gays are sticking their wangers, Cerberus. Is it something you need to talk about?

Yes, we can always count on homosexuals dragging out and dusting off the 'Are you struggling to stay in the closet?' mantra when they're put on the spot. B-o-r-i-n-g!!

I didn't suggest you're gay. Just that what the gays are doing, that harms no one, seems to be a really, really important topic for you. There are a number of possible explanations for that.
Why do you see that as a suggestion about your gender preference?

Are you that hampered at actually reading posts for content?

 

[Cerberus]

No you didn't

Can you please quote what I said which you consider was homophobic? Thank you.

So off YOU go...

Whether I did or not, I notice you haven't given an example of my perceived homophobia; but then I'm used to individuals gobbing off, then failing to meet my challenges when requested to, so don't feel the need to apologise.

You are correct about one thing. I will never apologize for calling out bigotry and homophobia wherever I see it

But you haven't seen it, have you? Not from me anyway so I don't know why you make such wild accusations. Actually you blatantly lied - will you apologise for that??

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Yes, we can always count on homosexuals dragging out and dusting off the 'Are you struggling to stay in the closet?' mantra when they're put on the spot. B-o-r-i-n-g!!

I didn't suggest you're gay. Just that what the gays are doing, that harms no one, seems to be a really, really important topic for you. There are a number of possible explanations for that.
Why do you see that as a suggestion about your gender preference?

Are you that hampered at actually reading posts for content?

This is a discussion forum, not a reading room.

 

[Keith&Co.]

This is a discussion forum, not a reading room.

True. Maybe you'd like to actually read the posts you're pretending to respond to, and make it a discussion?

 

[KeepTalking]

If someone is trying to ram sexual propensities down your throat, the first thing you should do is shut your mouth. The second thing you should do is watch your back, because some of those folks aren't content to merely force you to swallow their sexual dictates, they'll stab you in the back if you refuse.

But if all they are doing is informing you that they have sexual propensities that differ from yours, and they aren't hurting anyone, what's the problem?

Well excuse me for having an opinion!

Some in this thread might argue that expressing an opinion regarding sexual preference makes one deserving a of a good stabbing in the back.

 

[James Brown]

Nobody 'hates' homosexuals

[Citation needed]

we just don't want their sexual propensities, subliminally or explicitly, rammed down our throats at every opportunity

I agree! Why it's gotten to the point where someone can't walk down the street in the middle of a gay pride parade without seeing people being proud of being gay! What with all the subliminal sexy time they're mentally broadcasting into our brains.

any more than we want heteros grandstanding.

No word yet on how many people have been stabbed to death for being hetero, but I'm sure you're on the case!

 

[Keith&Co.]

[Citation needed]

All the crap he throws out as fact, you're hoping THIS is the one he's able to support?

You funny.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I am not going to quote virtually every post you have written since you joined this board.

I don't expect you to - I asked specifically for homophobic posts on this thread; it must be this thread because I've never joined any others on that this topic. So - off you go???

I won't be holding my breath though!

Well, that first post was quite anti-gay. You know, the whole passive aggressive blame the victim thing. In fact, you were blaming the stabbing victims for flaunting and that flaunting is what led the extremist to attack them. Yet, there was no evidence of flaunting, just a rainbow umbrella, green shirts, denim shorts in a rather flauntless parade.

You then sidestep this folly by posting a picture from some other parade, I have no idea why you had access to that pic, of two guys flaunting away... to say hey "look at the flaunting!" Again, trying to smokescreen the gross inadequacy of your original post in this thread that suggested the stabbing victims were 'asking for it'.

Sure, you haven't said "Gays should die", however, your initial baseless post that indicated you had no idea what the parade in Jerusalem was like either means you have a thing against gays or you are just trolling.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Nobody 'hates' homosexuals, we just don't want their sexual propensities, subliminally or explicitly, rammed down our throats at every opportunity any more than we want heteros grandstanding.

Am I ramming my sexual propensities down your throat when I walk down the street with my arm around my partner?


Or don't you care because I'm heterosexual?

 

[J842P]

Israel just arrested a rabbi who advocated for destroying christian churches throughout Israel. (and presumably the occupied territories) He accuses them of idol worship. I wish the american christians who support Israel would read israeli news sources.

Evangelical Christians don't support Israel because they like Jews but rather because they believe the Nation of Israel will play a critical role in the end-times. You have to understand that Christianity, especially the American Evangelical strain, is a crazy Armageddon death cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism

 

[dystopian]

But you haven't seen it, have you?

We have, actually.

You explicitly referred to gay pride parades as 'freak shows'. No matter how you slice or dice that, it's a homophobic statement. No, your weak attempt to claim it's okay because they call themselves that doesn't deflect that fact somehow. No, gay people do not generally refer to themselves as freaks, and even if they did that doesn't make it okay for you as an outsider to refer to them as such.

Plus, you actually stated that it 'gives you pleasure' to referm to them as freak shows; which isn't something you'd actually get from it unless you had a weird fetish involving the term 'freak show', or if you had a genuine hatred for the group you refer to by a term you damn well know is meant to denigrate said group.

Not from me anyway so I don't know why you make such wild accusations. Actually you blatantly lied - will you apologise for that??

At no point did Ravensky lie... either blatantly or subtly. So, will *you* apologize for accusing them of being a liar?

 

[Jarhyn]

Gay pride (parades) started as a thing because of violent oppression of gays, and ensuing riots following those attacks. Gay pride is about a challenge against conservative thought in general. It is about spitting in the face of authorities and authoritarians who would try to put gays down merely because they are different.

It is and always will be not just about flaunting it, but about shoving a bold challenge directly in the face of anyone who would try to attack someone else for being, acting, or doing a thing that does not actually cause any actual harm. It is like 'draw Muhammad day, or a flag burning. It is a willful act of defiance. So yes. It is flaunting. And yes, it is provocative. It will continue to be here, in your face and making you 'feel icky', until you and everyone else who would shout it down shuts up and accepts that different isn't a reason to hate.Whether or not this is an acceptable way of handling the situation of disgusting vile persons who call gays 'freaks' is another question. But many alternatives were tried. This is the one that seemed to turn the tide.

Nobody 'hates' homosexuals, we just don't want their sexual propensities, subliminally or explicitly, rammed down our throats at every opportunity any more than we want heteros grandstanding.

Good thing that I don't have a straight romance forced on me every time I go to see an action movie nowadays, then. Great that I don't see sexed up women on cars in ads, or people kissing their straight girlfriends on the bus or in the street. Sure is nice not having to see people with large asses wearing yoga pants and hearing 'hey guuuuurl' at least 3 times a day. And it's great hearing all the objection you have for when all that grandstanding that goes on on valentines day commercials gets aired out.

Seriously, though, straight people seem fucking BLIND to all the god damn grandstanding straight people do about how straight they are every goddamn day. There are holidays, and celebrations, whole fucking industries devoted to proclaiming 'I am straight, in a relationship, and having a bunch of sex, or at least I want to be!'. Get a god damn clue.

Hell, even INSIDE THE GOD DAMN GAY BARS I get blasted with music videos of straight people grandstanding straightness.

But the thing is I don't mind, and I certainly won't stop them from doing it even if it makes me feel a bit icky, because they do not harm me. Now have some delicious gay pride:

As long as I am not actually physically ramming a thing down your throat you have absolutely zero justification for acting or saying I am. It is an insult against all the gay people who are literally mouth-raped by straight people trying to 'teach them a lesson'.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I believe it's called "twerking". Sometimes they show it on TV here in the US:

but that's got nothing to do with people walking in a parade in Jerusalem[/COLOR], unless you have evidence of Miley Cyrus-style behavior among the participants.....?

How many more bloody times - I was making an observation about homosexual parades in general!

I find this notable on an atheist board. Are you an atheist? You would be the first I have met with such a strong stance against homosexuals.

 

[Cerberus]

Good thing that I don't have a straight romance forced on me every time I go to see an action movie nowadays, then. Great that I don't see sexed up women on cars in ads, or people kissing their straight girlfriends on the bus or in the street. Sure is nice not having to see people with large asses wearing yoga pants and hearing 'hey guuuuurl' at least 3 times a day. And it's great hearing all the objection you have for when all that grandstanding that goes on on valentines day commercials gets aired out.

Seriously, though, straight people seem fucking BLIND to all the god damn grandstanding straight people do about how straight they are every goddamn day. There are holidays, and celebrations, whole fucking industries devoted to proclaiming 'I am straight, in a relationship, and having a bunch of sex, or at least I want to be!'. Get a god damn clue.

Hell, even INSIDE THE GOD DAMN GAY BARS I get blasted with music videos of straight people grandstanding straightness.

But the thing is I don't mind, and I certainly won't stop them from doing it even if it makes me feel a bit icky, because they do not harm me. Now have some delicious gay pride:

As long as I am not actually physically ramming a thing down your throat you have absolutely zero justification for acting or saying I am. It is an insult against all the gay people who are literally mouth-raped by straight people trying to 'teach them a lesson'.

Does it ever occur to you that you're a bigot? The reason I ask is that you seem to be insulting me for having a different opinion to your own, and it's what bigots do. Liberal zealots often forget that bigotry is a 2-way street.

'mouth-raped' I haven't seen that one before! What clever wordplay!

 

[marc]

Evangelical Christians don't support Israel because they like Jews but rather because they believe the Nation of Israel will play a critical role in the end-times. You have to understand that Christianity, especially the American Evangelical strain, is a crazy Armageddon death cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism

Or as it was put on 'The Brink':

'It's not the Jews that protect us, it's Texas, South Carolina, Mississippi. It's your right-wing, neocon, 'Super-Christians.' And they don't even like Jews. They just need us here to keep the lights on for their fucking Messiah!'

Clip at Crooks and Liars

 

[KeepTalking]

Good thing that I don't have a straight romance forced on me every time I go to see an action movie nowadays, then. Great that I don't see sexed up women on cars in ads, or people kissing their straight girlfriends on the bus or in the street. Sure is nice not having to see people with large asses wearing yoga pants and hearing 'hey guuuuurl' at least 3 times a day. And it's great hearing all the objection you have for when all that grandstanding that goes on on valentines day commercials gets aired out.

Seriously, though, straight people seem fucking BLIND to all the god damn grandstanding straight people do about how straight they are every goddamn day. There are holidays, and celebrations, whole fucking industries devoted to proclaiming 'I am straight, in a relationship, and having a bunch of sex, or at least I want to be!'. Get a god damn clue.

Hell, even INSIDE THE GOD DAMN GAY BARS I get blasted with music videos of straight people grandstanding straightness.

But the thing is I don't mind, and I certainly won't stop them from doing it even if it makes me feel a bit icky, because they do not harm me. Now have some delicious gay pride:

As long as I am not actually physically ramming a thing down your throat you have absolutely zero justification for acting or saying I am. It is an insult against all the gay people who are literally mouth-raped by straight people trying to 'teach them a lesson'.

Does it ever occur to you that you're a bigot? The reason I ask is that you seem to be insulting me for having a different opinion to your own, and it's what bigots do. Liberal zealots often forget that bigotry is a 2-way street.

'mouth-raped' I haven't seen that one before! What clever wordplay!

Being intolerant of intolerance is bigotry? My, what a delusional world you live in.