Jimmy, I disagree, but discussing it further would derail things.
I was just giving anothet example where German media tend to be uncritical. Reading about #BLM in German media, they never mention that most shootings they protest are justified, nor their links with black supremacism and terrorism (they lionize do-called Black Liberation Army). No wonder than that German players are falling for Kaep's nonsense.
The European perspective tends to be that it is NEVER justified for the state to kill civilians. It is sometimes unavoidable; But such cases are rare, and need to be examined openly and in great detail to learn how to prevent any recurrence of them. One result of this scrutiny is that they have found that by restricting access to firearms, they can massively reduce the number of occasions wherein it becomes unavoidable to kill civilians.
It is unusual for a police officer in Europe to kill a civilian, and any officer who kills a civilian in the course of his work is likely to see some repercussions on his career - even if he keeps his job, having killed someone is likely to put a damper on his prospects of promotion.
This way of thinking is completely alien to Americans, whose culture is completely OK with the idea that a person can be killed by the state for failure to comply with its laws, or with the directives and commands of its law enforcement officials.
Europeans have a long history that has taught them time and time again that allowing the state to kill citizens for any reason is a dangerous precedent that ultimately results in tyranny. Americans have a totally unrealistic idea that they are somehow freer than anyone else by fiat, and that therefore guarding against tyranny is unnecessary; If the worst comes to the worst, Americans imagine that tyranny can be prevented by simply killing lots of people. They seem to be completely blind to the inherent irony in this idea.
Whenever an American on this board refers to "justified shootings", it simply highlights this divide; To the European way of thinking, there is simply no such thing. There are just shootings, and all of them are unacceptable, even if they were unavoidable. It's rather like the difference in attitude between car crash investigations and air crash investigations. The NTSB don't just shrug their shoulders and say 'Well it was just an accident'. They find the root causes of EVERY 'accident', and try to do something to prevent those conditions from occurring again. The police in Europe don't just shrug their shoulders and say "Well it was a justified shooting"; They try to find the root cause of every shooting, and to do something to prevent a recurrence.
The number of deaths per passenger-mile on commercial airlines in the United States between 2000 and 2010 was about 0.2 deaths per 10 billion passenger-miles. For driving, the rate was 150 per 10 billion vehicle-miles for 2000 : 750 times higher per mile than for flying in a commercial airplane.
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Wikipedia
List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate:
United States
There is no consistent recording of firearms use across all states, some bodies such as the New York Police Department report on firearms discharge. In 2015 NYPD reported a record low of 8 deaths as well as 15 injuries caused by police firearms discharge.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation publish the number of justified homicides by law enforcement.
In response to the lack of published data The Guardian launched The Counted- a program to record the number of fatal police shootings throughout the United States. The Guardian reports that 1146 people were killed in 2015 and 1092 people in 2016.
My bold - The number of people killed isn't even reported, FFS.
From the above, the number of civilians killed by police firearms, per annum, per hundred million population:
England and Wales - 5
France - 6
Germany - 12
Austria - 12
Netherlands - 18
Denmark - 71
USA - 342
It is, perhaps, reasonable to argue (on the basis of actual numbers achieved by the best performing police forces) that up to a dozen fatal shootings by police per annum per hundred million population are unavoidable; and that this number is therefore "justified"; However even by this very generous assessment, that implies that US police kill 330 more people per hundred million, or close to 1,000 people per annum, MORE than the number that can be justified as 'unavoidable' even by this very lax standard.
All the rest might be subject to rationalizations; And if you keep up your excellent record of keeping as few records as possible, you might be able to squint and pretend that there's no problem. But the numbers don't lie. Your nation is exceptional - it kills its own citizens without trial about thirty times as often as any civilized nation.
The first step to a solution is to admit that you have a problem. But you refuse to do so. The German media have EVERY right to be critical of the actions of US police forces; It is unnecessary to even look at the detailed rationalizations offered for individual cases, when the numbers (and the lack of numbers) show that you are not even taking the most basic steps towards minimizing the killing of civilians by police, without trial.
How happy would you be to get on an aircraft, if the NTSB didn't even keep accurate records of the number of planes that crashed per annum?
The policy of the NTSB (and the CASA, BEA, AAIB, and other similar organizations) is that the acceptable number of plane crashes is zero.
The policy of the police in the EU is, similarly, that the acceptable number of civilian deaths at the hands of police is zero.
