Legal definition of woman is based on biological sex, UK supreme court rules

[TomC]

No, it's a non sequitur.

Yeah, I kinda thought so when @Toni said it, but she did any way.
Then defended it, when she got called out on the complete non sequitur.
Tom

 

[Toni]

So men should be allowed into women only spaces because…

…other cultures.

This is idiocy.

The only idiocy that I see is in the insistence of adhering to a black or white understanding of sex and gender.

 

[Arctish]

No, it's a non sequitur.

Yeah, I kinda thought so when @Toni said it, but she did any way.
Then defended it, when she got called out on the complete non sequitur.
Tom

Toni said men should be allowed into women only spaces? When did that happen? She's been consistently arguing in favor of keeping men out of those places from the beginning of this thread.

And she said it's because of other cultures?

I think you might have her mixed up with someone else.

 

[TomC]

No, it's a non sequitur.

Yeah, I kinda thought so when @Toni said it, but she did any way.
Then defended it, when she got called out on the complete non sequitur.
Tom

Toni said men should be allowed into women only spaces? When did that happen? She's been consistently arguing in favor of keeping men out of those places from the beginning of this thread.

And she said it's because of other cultures?

I think you might have her mixed up with someone else.

It's because she brought up other primitive cultures as though they were relevant. It was a complete non sequitur.
Tom

 

[Toni]

No, it's a non sequitur.

Yeah, I kinda thought so when @Toni said it, but she did any way.
Then defended it, when she got called out on the complete non sequitur.
Tom

Toni said men should be allowed into women only spaces? When did that happen? She's been consistently arguing in favor of keeping men out of those places from the beginning of this thread.

And she said it's because of other cultures?

I think you might have her mixed up with someone else.

It's because she brought up other primitive cultures as though they were relevant. It was a complete non sequitur.
Tom

Right. There is absolutely nothing to ever be learned from other cultures.

 

[Arctish]

No, it's a non sequitur.

Yeah, I kinda thought so when @Toni said it, but she did any way.
Then defended it, when she got called out on the complete non sequitur.
Tom

Toni said men should be allowed into women only spaces? When did that happen? She's been consistently arguing in favor of keeping men out of those places from the beginning of this thread.

And she said it's because of other cultures?

I think you might have her mixed up with someone else.

It's because she brought up other primitive cultures as though they were relevant. It was a complete non sequitur.
Tom

Right. There is absolutely nothing to ever be learned from other cultures.

"Primitive cultures".

The kind that recognize more than the two Christian Church approved genders?

 

[TSwizzle]

So what?

What has that to do with the question of whether sex is an important characteristic in some circumstances?

It is possible that by studying other cultures, we might learn and grow and improve how we handle things.

Yes, let’s study backward Islamic cultures to see where we are going wrong with the treatment of women.

 

[Arctish]

So what?

What has that to do with the question of whether sex is an important characteristic in some circumstances?

It is possible that by studying other cultures, we might learn and grow and improve how we handle things.

Yes, let’s study backward Islamic cultures to see where we are going wrong with the treatment of women.

That link to the Talmud recognizing seven genders takes you to the My Jewish Learning page, but yeah, let's pretend there are only two cultures in the world - Western Christian and Islamic.

 

[TomC]

And yet more irrelevant non sequiturs.

Right. There is absolutely nothing to ever be learned from other cultures.

"Primitive cultures".

The kind that recognize more than the two Christian Church approved genders?

I said nothing like either of those things.
But, no, I don't think that primitive cultures without running water can tell the women I know who is okay in a department store restroom with them.
Tom

 

[TSwizzle]

So what?

What has that to do with the question of whether sex is an important characteristic in some circumstances?

It is possible that by studying other cultures, we might learn and grow and improve how we handle things.

Yes, let’s study backward Islamic cultures to see where we are going wrong with the treatment of women.

That link to the Talmud recognizing seven genders takes you to the My Jewish Learning page, but yeah, let's pretend there are only two cultures in the world - Western Christian and Islamic.

Who’s pretending anything, there’s a shit load of backward cultures to choose from. And really, a book of superstitious nonsense written by goat herders is your go to?

 

[Arctish]

And yet more irrelevant non sequiturs.

Right. There is absolutely nothing to ever be learned from other cultures.

"Primitive cultures".

The kind that recognize more than the two Christian Church approved genders?

I said nothing like either of those things.
But, no, I don't think that primitive cultures without running water can tell the women I know who is okay in a department store restroom with them.
Tom

Well if it wasn't you doing that ventriloquism trick with a straw man, someone is spoofing your account.

 

[TomC]

That link to the Talmud recognizing seven genders takes you to the My Jewish Learning page, but yeah, let's pretend there are only two cultures in the world - Western Christian and Islamic.

Yet another irrelevant non sequitur strawman.
Nobody said anything like that. But it's obvious to me why you responded with that. Because the reality doesn't suit your ideology.
Tom

 

[TomC]

And yet more irrelevant non sequiturs.

Right. There is absolutely nothing to ever be learned from other cultures.

"Primitive cultures".

The kind that recognize more than the two Christian Church approved genders?

I said nothing like either of those things.
But, no, I don't think that primitive cultures without running water can tell the women I know who is okay in a department store restroom with them.
Tom

Well if it wasn't you doing that ventriloquism trick with a straw man, someone is spoofing your account.

What The Fuck?
I quoted you both.
Tom

 

[Arctish]

You quoted us both responding to seanie's non sequitur as though Toni was the one posting fallacies and had said we should allow men into women only spaces.

Either you got confused over who has been arguing what, or you were being disingenuous.

 

[Toni]

No, it's a non sequitur.

Yeah, I kinda thought so when @Toni said it, but she did any way.
Then defended it, when she got called out on the complete non sequitur.
Tom

Toni said men should be allowed into women only spaces? When did that happen? She's been consistently arguing in favor of keeping men out of those places from the beginning of this thread.

And she said it's because of other cultures?

I think you might have her mixed up with someone else.

It's because she brought up other primitive cultures as though they were relevant. It was a complete non sequitur.
Tom

I never used the word primitive. I used the words societies and cultures.

 

[Toni]

And yet more irrelevant non sequiturs.

Right. There is absolutely nothing to ever be learned from other cultures.

"Primitive cultures".

The kind that recognize more than the two Christian Church approved genders?

I said nothing like either of those things.
But, no, I don't think that primitive cultures without running water can tell the women I know who is okay in a department store restroom with them.
Tom

Well if it wasn't you doing that ventriloquism trick with a straw man, someone is spoofing your account.

What The Fuck?
I quoted you both.
Tom

Well, no you did not, I never used or thought the word primitive.

I pointed out that Jesus was a Jew. It did not occur to me that you considered Judaism to be primitive.

That’s your own bias leaking into your reading.

 

[Toni]

That link to the Talmud recognizing seven genders takes you to the My Jewish Learning page, but yeah, let's pretend there are only two cultures in the world - Western Christian and Islamic.

Yet another irrelevant non sequitur strawman.
Nobody said anything like that. But it's obvious to me why you responded with that. Because the reality doesn't suit your ideology.
Tom

lol—that’s your own reflection you’re staring at, Tom.

 

[bilby]

a book of superstitious nonsense written by goat herders

That's a ridiculous mischaracterization.

They had sheep, too.

 

[Bomb#20]

In the Talmud, seven genders are recognized:

The Seven Genders in the Talmud | My Jewish Learning

Thought nonbinary gender was a modern concept? Think again. The ancient Jewish understanding of gender was far more nuanced than ...

www.myjewishlearning.com

So, basically, the scholars who wrote the Talmud recognized five additional ways besides "standard-issue woman" that you could be a lesser being than a regular person. Wisdom for the ages.

Well, no you did not, I never used or thought the word primitive.

I pointed out that Jesus was a Jew. It did not occur to me that you considered Judaism to be primitive.

 

[TomC]

In the Talmud, seven genders are recognized:

Would you quote the part about gender? I tried to read it but your website wouldn't let me unless I gave it my Email address.
Tom