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Mar-a-Largo raided by FBI?

TomC said:
Artemus said:
DOJ is going to appeal the order for a "Special Master". This should be interesting. :eating_popcorn:
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Perhaps the DOJ could suggest a triumvirate, heavy on the Republicans.
Mike Pence and Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney would do just fine.
Tom
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None of whom have clearance high enough to see some of the documents. Heck, VP Harris might not.

Artemus said:
DOJ is going to appeal the order for a "Special Master". This should be interesting. :eating_popcorn:
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Pretty much have to. From the commentaries, it doesn't appear that many legal experts think the ruling holds any water.
 
Another issue in this case:

(e) The United States District Court for the District of Columbia shall have jurisdiction over any action initiated by the former President asserting that a determination made by the Archivist violates the former President's rights or privileges.
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So did this judge have any right to take on this case in the first place? Neal Katyal thinks no.
 
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Jimmy Higgins said:
TomC said:
Artemus said:
DOJ is going to appeal the order for a "Special Master". This should be interesting. :eating_popcorn:
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Perhaps the DOJ could suggest a triumvirate, heavy on the Republicans.
Mike Pence and Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney would do just fine.
Tom
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None of whom have clearance high enough to see some of the documents. Heck, VP Harris might not.

Artemus said:
DOJ is going to appeal the order for a "Special Master". This should be interesting. :eating_popcorn:
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Pretty much have to. From the commentaries, it doesn't appear that many legal experts think the ruling holds any water.
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Don't worry, Trump comes armed with underwear for holding all the "water" that their arguments fail to catch.
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
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I get the suspect stain on PillowFucker's pillow, but what's with the Kool-aid man?

Or is that supposed to be Trumpty Dumpty themselves?
 
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MSNBC's The Last Word: Judge Cannon Runs Up The White Flag.

No link yet, but Lawrence O’Donnell reported that Judge Cannon is asking Trump’s lawyers to exclude those 100 classified documents from her special master order. Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal stated this was a sign that Judge Cannon is running up...
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No link yet, but Lawrence O’Donnell reported that Judge Cannon is asking Trump’s lawyers to exclude those 100 classified documents from her special master order. Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal stated this was a sign that Judge Cannon is running up the white flag in response to the DOJ’s intention to appeal her decision to the Eleventh Court of Appeals. Both indicated that this was Cannon’s off ramp to her bonehead ruling to essentially allow Trump to dictate how he is to be investigated.

Also, all of O’Donnell’s panelist agreed that Judge Cannon had to be “schooled” in how intelligence work is done. In it’s filling to Judge Cannon, the DOJ made it plain that the FBI was BOTH a criminal investigation body and did intelligence work. In this particular case, there was no way to separate the two as this idiotic judge had ruled (you can do an investigation into national defense damage, but you couldn’t do anything with regards to criminal matters, according to Trump judge Cannon).

In fact, the FBI is the only domestic intelligence agency allowed by law.
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DOJ states again that seized material from Mar-a-Lago 'indisputably belong to the government' in its appeal to the special master ruling

The Justice Department appealed a federal judge's ruling for the appointment of a special master to review the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago in August.
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The Justice Department on Thursday reiterated a key point that has been made by federal investigators and the National Archives since the records agency opened an inquiry last year with Donald Trump about missing White House files: The documents that were seized from Mar-a-Lago "indisputably" belong to the government.

In its appeal to a federal judge's Monday ruling, which granted Trump's request for a special master to review thousands of documents taken from the Florida resort, the Justice Department requested a partial stay that could allow for an independent party to review some of the records without further impeding a criminal investigation.

Specifically, the agency hopes to continue sifting through a "discrete set of just over 100 documents" that have classified markings. The DOJ wrote that "those aspects of the Order will cause the most immediate and serious harms to the government and the public."

Prosecutors further stated: "A stay would simply allow the government to continue to review and use the same records — which, again, indisputably belong to the government, not Plaintiff — in its ongoing criminal investigation as well."

The DOJ stated in its appeal that the partial stay "would impose no cognizable harm" to Trump and "not disturb the special master's review of any other records, including any personal materials or records potentially subject to attorney-client privilege."
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ZiprHead said:
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MSNBC's The Last Word: Judge Cannon Runs Up The White Flag.

No link yet, but Lawrence O’Donnell reported that Judge Cannon is asking Trump’s lawyers to exclude those 100 classified documents from her special master order. Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal stated this was a sign that Judge Cannon is running up...
www.dailykos.com www.dailykos.com
No link yet, but Lawrence O’Donnell reported that Judge Cannon is asking Trump’s lawyers to exclude those 100 classified documents from her special master order. Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal stated this was a sign that Judge Cannon is running up the white flag in response to the DOJ’s intention to appeal her decision to the Eleventh Court of Appeals. Both indicated that this was Cannon’s off ramp to her bonehead ruling to essentially allow Trump to dictate how he is to be investigated.

Also, all of O’Donnell’s panelist agreed that Judge Cannon had to be “schooled” in how intelligence work is done. In it’s filling to Judge Cannon, the DOJ made it plain that the FBI was BOTH a criminal investigation body and did intelligence work. In this particular case, there was no way to separate the two as this idiotic judge had ruled (you can do an investigation into national defense damage, but you couldn’t do anything with regards to criminal matters, according to Trump judge Cannon).

In fact, the FBI is the only domestic intelligence agency allowed by law.
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That is interesting... because isn't a "special master" allegedly needed to say, 'yup, that is classfied'?

This is a desperate face change, as now she is allegedly saying she trusts the Government to tell what is classified, not what is privileged. That seems a hard hill to stand on.
 
Jarhyn said:
I get the suspect stain on PillowFucker's pillow, but what's with the Kool-aid man?

Or is that supposed to be Trumpty Dumpty themselves?
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I think it represents the collective that have "drunk the Kool-Aid."
 
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Isn't it cute... the hearts on Truth Social... 7.42k. On Twitter they used to be much higher. It'd be nice if people stopped advertising the dolt's messages on his personal social media platform.
 
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ZiprHead said:
www.dailykos.com

MSNBC's The Last Word: Judge Cannon Runs Up The White Flag.

No link yet, but Lawrence O’Donnell reported that Judge Cannon is asking Trump’s lawyers to exclude those 100 classified documents from her special master order. Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal stated this was a sign that Judge Cannon is running up...
www.dailykos.com www.dailykos.com
No link yet, but Lawrence O’Donnell reported that Judge Cannon is asking Trump’s lawyers to exclude those 100 classified documents from her special master order. Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal stated this was a sign that Judge Cannon is running up the white flag in response to the DOJ’s intention to appeal her decision to the Eleventh Court of Appeals. Both indicated that this was Cannon’s off ramp to her bonehead ruling to essentially allow Trump to dictate how he is to be investigated.

Also, all of O’Donnell’s panelist agreed that Judge Cannon had to be “schooled” in how intelligence work is done. In it’s filling to Judge Cannon, the DOJ made it plain that the FBI was BOTH a criminal investigation body and did intelligence work. In this particular case, there was no way to separate the two as this idiotic judge had ruled (you can do an investigation into national defense damage, but you couldn’t do anything with regards to criminal matters, according to Trump judge Cannon).

In fact, the FBI is the only domestic intelligence agency allowed by law.
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Lawfare has a rather blistering critique to include, she is out of her depth when it comes to intel.
Everything Wrong With Judge Cannon’s Ruling
 
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Lawfare has a rather blistering critique to include, she is out of her depth when it comes to intel.
Everything Wrong With Judge Cannon’s Ruling
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Unsurprising considering the only qualities she needed to become a judge under Trump were to be young, a Trumper, and be a member of the Federalist society. And she was appointed by McConnell after Trump lost the election. So much for McConnell's ethics.
 
If the shoe was on the other foot there would be an armed mob outside Cannon’s house, doxing, death threats by text and email, and bodyguards 24/7.
 
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