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Also, this:
In the statement attributed to Clark, the author writes extensively about his hatred for non-White and non-Christian cultures. The message attributed to Vazquez lauds Adolf Hitler as a hero.

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Cody Zoschak, a senior analyst at ISD, said that the writings seemed to differentiate the teen gunmen from other nihilistic extremists because of their explicit endorsement of neo-Nazi rhetoric.

“There’s pretty strong indications that these folks were neo-Nazis, specifically militant accelerationists,” Zoschak said. “They display an ideological knowledge that shows some engagement in these circles for an extended period of time.”
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Brown and tan right wing nationalists and nativists are aligned with GOP these days as long as Muslims, queers, and women are the target. It’s a big tent, for now. Vivek might find out that the white right wingers feel about him the same way he does about lower caste Indians once the whites don’t need him any more to retain power.
 
Derec said:
laughing dog said:
First, I didn't call them white. I said they sounded like the run of a mill white christian nationalists.
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I.e. you called them white, among other adjectives.
Second, Cain Clark's mom is white.
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Would that also make, say, Barack Obama white?
Third, Caleb Vasquez is Hispanic which may be classified as white or nonwhite.
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I guess Hispanics are "white" when they do something bad, but are POCs otherwise?
So, it seems to me that the only way one can definitely declare that neither one was white is to have the strident racist view that being white requires no other race in one's ancestry.
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What I would like is there to be some consistency. It is normally left who assigns people like Clark and Vasquez POC status and progressive stack privileges that go with that, except apparently when they shoot up a mosque. Then they suddenly become lilly-white.
Both of these terrorists certainly resembled white supremacist assholes:
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Again, the addition of "white" here exists only to denigrate white people. A common lefist affliction where white is being equated with oppressors and "people of color" with the oppressed.
Why does it bother you so much to have the truth about your brethren?
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Why do you think they are my brethren any more than they are yours?
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Strange. I thought the determining factor of "whiteness" was the color of the skin. You coulda' knocked me over with a feather.
 
Derec said:
Would that also make, say, Barack Obama white?
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Barack Obama is half white and half black. He is called black because that is more noticeable feature. Of course he also identifies as black, but this is a product of USA's (and admittedly rest of world too) way of determining people's "race". On a more logical planet he would be recognized as being both black and white.
 
laughing dog said:
Derec said:
Again, the addition of "white" here exists only to denigrate white people. A common lefist affliction where white is being equated with oppressors and "people of color" with the oppressed.
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Nope. It's there because white identity is a thing, Derec. And it's often tied to the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, which is total nonsense. But you'd know that if you spent any time thinking about anything.
 
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Derec said:
Would that also make, say, Barack Obama white?
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Barack Obama is half white and half black. He is called black because that is more noticeable feature. Of course he also identifies as black, but this is a product of USA's (and admittedly rest of world too) way of determining people's "race". On a more logical planet he would be recognized as being both black and white.
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I'd rather we just consider ourselves as homo sapiens.
 
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Spacetime Inhabitant said:
Derec said:
Would that also make, say, Barack Obama white?
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Barack Obama is half white and half black. He is called black because that is more noticeable feature. Of course he also identifies as black, but this is a product of USA's (and admittedly rest of world too) way of determining people's "race". On a more logical planet he would be recognized as being both black and white.
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I would think he would put more emphasis on the white part. You know, to get all that white privilege I keep hearing about. ;)
 
TSwizzle said:
Spacetime Inhabitant said:
Derec said:
Would that also make, say, Barack Obama white?
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Barack Obama is half white and half black. He is called black because that is more noticeable feature. Of course he also identifies as black, but this is a product of USA's (and admittedly rest of world too) way of determining people's "race". On a more logical planet he would be recognized as being both black and white.
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I would think he would put more emphasis on the white part. You know, to get all that white privilege I keep hearing about. ;)
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Clearly, Barak Obama never bothered to watch White Like Me. Too bad. He missed out on a lot.
 
thebeave said:
Elixir said:
Tigers! said:
It has got so bad now in the US that now dogs are shooting their owners.
Is Nebraska particularly strange?
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THE DOG SHOT SOMEONE ELSE, NOT ITS OWNER!
Good boy, Fido!
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And it was BLACK Lab that did it! Ever notice you never see white labs (like Wonder) do this kinda shit?!
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Wonder?
A LAB???
Don't let her hear you say that. She is a high-bred English Cream Golden Retriever. No dog with less than four words in their breed name can possibly come close!
(I seriously love labs... they work a lot harder than Wonder ever will!)
 
TSwizzle said:
You know, to get all that white privilege I keep hearing about. ;)
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That shit ain't subject to self-identity. If the white guy say you black, you black.
Only a white person would think they can claim whatever race they fancy (e.g. Liz "Pocahontas" Warren)
 
Nihilism doesn't mean "a tendency towards violence". It also doesn't mean "wanting society to fall apart". Also, belief that the will of a single individual is absolute, is not nihilism.
 
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Elixir said:
thebeave said:
Elixir said:
Tigers! said:
It has got so bad now in the US that now dogs are shooting their owners.
Is Nebraska particularly strange?
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THE DOG SHOT SOMEONE ELSE, NOT ITS OWNER!
Good boy, Fido!
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And it was BLACK Lab that did it! Ever notice you never see white labs (like Wonder) do this kinda shit?!
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Wonder?
A LAB???
Don't let her hear you say that. She is a high-bred English Cream Golden Retriever. No dog with less than four words in their breed name can possibly come close!
(I seriously love labs... they work a lot harder than Wonder ever will!)
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Oooh... an English Cream Golden Retriever. High-bred at that. Well, la de dah. Do you eat tea and krumpets together and play polo? ;)

Seriously, sorry about the mixup. I like both retrievers and labs, but yeah, I'd go with a lab myself. Retrievers are sweet as all get out, but IMHO, often kinda lazy and well...not always the brightest bulbs in the pack.
 
There is federal legislation in the works to make fully automatic weapons, machine guns, easier to obtain for the average Joe.
 
Elixir said:
Spacetime Inhabitant said:
On a more logical planet he would be recognized as being both black and white.
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On a more logical planet he’d be a zebra?
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No, like this:
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