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I was not passing judgments.
right, because calling something a corruption is a judgjent-free assessment. As with bizarre and loss-of-self-esteem...
The question is do we strive for a finer reality or do we rut around in the bushes having sex all the time.
well, that us a different question than invoking evolution as have a plan.
But 'finer reality' versus 'rutting in the bushes' are still loaded terms.

If we see ourselves as carnal animals then in the end all bets are off.
and more judgment.
We are animals, carnal is pleasuranle, but we can also hold down a job, even if we give the butt plug control to someone else.
As animals, we can try to choose where to set the balance between pleasure and responsibility.
And if you're not trying to get customer service from someone who left the butt plug controller beside the kids' fidget spinner, what is it to you?
Go back to tribalism and fighting for survival. What modern history shows us that civilization is a thin veneer and it does not tale much to break down. Social norms are part of social cohesion. Can our civilization survive with no or little social norms?
now, now, just because you find sex unseemly, that does not mean that those who are not in agreement have abandoned social norms entirely.
They just don't share yours.

Thirty years ago, it was pretty fucking unseemly to see a woman's bra straps. Now it is common, and even fashionable, with bras coming with multiple straps to match various shirts.
But despite my mother's opinion that only extroverted harlots exposed their bras, the women are no more likely to flash theor boobs than 30 years ago.... it us different, not t he end ofbthe world.
I think the conservatives do have a valid point. If it is all self gratification what happens?
the same thijng thst happens every college year for the last 500 years.
Someone concentrates on self-gratification, his/her grades go to shit, they learn that there are limits, learn to balance their life, and move on.

Every goddamned year.
Same thing happens the first command after boot camp.

It's part of life. The technical term is 'growing up.'
We are seeing social breakdown everyday. The rise in gun violence. It is all related to social norms.
feel free to show a causal link between casual sexual gratification and shooting a mall. At least some of the shooters are uncels, who blame all their problems on women NOT giving them easy sex.
 

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place your bets everyone!! So my friend I spent tonight at the strip club and I asked him if he wanted to go back to my place and have some more beers and watch some porn. We caught an uber and when we arrived here, he said he was going to go home and shower and bring some more beer back. So what does everyone say....will he come back or not???A little background, he is in his 20s and he and I have never jacked off or even watched porn together, but he is close friends with guys that I have done both with. Since I just got on here a short time ago, have any of you noticed my wife on here tonight? She went to our cabin one day early so I half expect her to be on here tonight.
 

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I say sexual attraction is driven by hormones and sexual behavior is driven by social acceptance. Unless you are a person like me and don't care about public acceptance and my sexual behavior, for many, unacceptable and weird, but secretly intriguing for most. Am I wrong there?

Rational? Proposition? FYI Check category.
 

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I say sexual attraction is driven by hormones and sexual behavior is driven by social acceptance. Unless you are a person like me and don't care about public acceptance and my sexual behavior, for many, unacceptable and weird, but secretly intriguing for most. Am I wrong there?

Rational? Proposition? FYI Check category.

So I take it that if a sexual behavior is not your normal, then it is unacceptable?
 

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what do you do when you are in the middle of an all night porn and jack off session (3 climaxes so far) and your buddy just sent a text that he is on his way over for some beers before he heads home. On top of that I just popped a Viagra about 30 minutes ago and is in full effect.
 

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Can I just check. Is that your cock, your wife's cock, or both, or neither? ;)

I admit I am getting a bit suspicious now.
 

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I thought I would share my hard cock with you as I get close to climax #4 for the night [consistency]

OMG I can't believe my husband would post a big picture of his hard cock. Sure I am hornier than hell right now and I see his rock hard greased up cock that I would love to have pumping my shaved pussy. I always feels so good when that cock ring slams up against my pussy.
 
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I thought I would share my hard cock with you as I get close to climax #4 for the night

Looks like you are a run of the mill teenage troll. We haven't had one in a long time. Philosophy is not the place. Start a 'sex talk' thread on media and culture.

And of course that is really you...right?
 

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I thought I would share my hard cock with you as I get close to climax #4 for the night

Looks like you are a run of the mill teenage troll. We haven't had one in a long time. Philosophy is not the place. Start a 'sex talk' thread on media and culture.

And of course that is really you...right?

Do you like to expose yourself in subways? The forum flasher. Whips it out across the forum.
 

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I thought I would share my hard cock with you as I get close to climax #4 for the night

Looks like you are a run of the mill teenage troll. We haven't had one in a long time. Philosophy is not the place. Start a 'sex talk' thread on media and culture.

And of course that is really you...right?

Do you like to expose yourself in subways? The forum flasher. Whips it out across the forum.

Nimrod. But instead of 'great hunter' more of a 'gate grunter.'
 

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I did not pick up on they being banned. Enough said.
 

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The anus did not evolve to accept the penis and the mouth did not evolve to receive sperm.

Sex is pleasurable because it is supposed to, procreation is important. Little else is as pleasurable.
It is seen as a corruption of natural impulses.

It is using sex for gratification other than procreation that some religious object to. A corruption of natural impulse. Eliminating liquid and solid waste is also pleasurable. You can say anal sex is a corruption of a natural function.

Someone who was focused on or fascinated by anal sections IMO has a psychological problem.
If we go down the path that most all in search of pleasure is normal with few exceptions than normal becomes pleasure in any way by any means.

There are clit battery powered stimulators women wear during the day with a remote switch for a buzz during the day.

People wear butt plugs. All that to me is bizarre and repents loss of self esteem and image. A need for constant sexual stimulation.

Fingers didn't evolve to type on a keyboard. They happened mostly because our ancestors fins had rays. If small x is a corruption if nature, so is typing. To be fair, finding better grip on uneven surfaces hundreds of millions if years ago, holding on to branches tends of millions ago, and operating tools millions of years ago were equally corruptions of fingers' original intent. That, or intent is not a valid category in evolution.
 

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Actually keyboards evolved to fit man's capabilities to engage mechanical things with one's fingers. People could type faster that mechanical action of typewriters for producing text on paper was executed. So the letters on the keyboard were moved about until one could keep typing without having to disengage keys at strike point. We were too well adapted to type. We weren't adapted toward but beyond best performance. Now we continue with QWERTY only because people are used to it. Pretty much the damn definition of adaptation.
 

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Actually keyboards evolved to fit man's capabilities to engage mechanical things with one's fingers. People could type faster that mechanical action of typewriters for producing text on paper was executed. So the letters on the keyboard were moved about until one could keep typing without having to disengage keys at strike point. We were too well adapted to type. We weren't adapted toward but beyond best performance. Now we continue with QWERTY only because people are used to it. Pretty much the damn definition of adaptation.

true.. but they really fucked up the R and E... many words (that one may place at the beginning of a sentence) begin with "Re".. and to this day, I can't help but always type "REgarding", for example, because I can't get my finger off of the shift key fast enough.
 

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Too much jacking off:

1) When you do it to the point of causing injury.

2) When you do it in preference to sex with your partner.

Why is #2 a problem? You and your partner can masturbate together. You can also involve third parties. Why do we demand people be sexually monogamous with a life partner and that it be the same person that you connect with intellectually or "spiritually" and want to consider your other half?
 

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Too much jacking off:

1) When you do it to the point of causing injury.

2) When you do it in preference to sex with your partner.

Why is #2 a problem? You and your partner can masturbate together. You can also involve third parties. Why do we demand people be sexually monogamous with a life partner and that it be the same person that you connect with intellectually or "spiritually" and want to consider your other half?

Note "in preference to"! If your partner isn't interested in sex and you masturbate, fine. If they want sex and you masturbate instead of having sex with them that's a problem.
 

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Too much jacking off:

1) When you do it to the point of causing injury.

2) When you do it in preference to sex with your partner.

Why is #2 a problem? You and your partner can masturbate together. You can also involve third parties. Why do we demand people be sexually monogamous with a life partner and that it be the same person that you connect with intellectually or "spiritually" and want to consider your other half?

Note "in preference to"! If your partner isn't interested in sex and you masturbate, fine. If they want sex and you masturbate instead of having sex with them that's a problem.

Masturbation is a coarse activity. If it's done with a partner, it's intercourse.
 

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Funny side note: At age 16, Donald Trump helped his uncle jack off a horse. The uncle relied on Donald because the lad knew the skills that applied, and was all around a skillful hand at it. And the uncle didn't feel safe doing it alone. Horse might have stomped on him. I think it lands on the credit side of Trump's accomplishments, kind of rounds out the picture.
Oh, my goodness. I meant to say, Donald Trump helped his Uncle Jack off a horse. Now what must you think of me?
 
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