PyramidHead
Contributor
Most of us probably don't care. We're what, almost 18 months from the actual election? So much is going to change between now and then. I like some of Bernie's platform. I don't like the way his followers handled themselves in 2016. I think because of his rabid base, which he has only made mild attempts to distance himself from, is poisonous to the DNC and the democratic process overall.Does anybody have any reaction at all to the main purpose of this thread, which is to reveal that the media are already transparently lying in their reporting of Sanders? We can have a thread about his overall chances, but this one is supposed to be about the media's treatment of him.
I don't actually care that much (which is not to say not at all) who wins the Dem primary, they will get my vote. It is a shitty position to be in, but the shitheel in the WH is just that bad. I actually think that if Bernie (or Biden, whom I used to like a lot more, and probably still prefer over Bernis) wins, he has less chance of beating the orange shitgibbon than most of the others, since so many people are turned off by him.
You still haven't posted any evidence that his popularity has increased "exponentially" since 2016. Based on my experience, it's been the opposite, but it probably depends on the people around me more than anything else. Got any polls to demonstrate this exponential skyrocketing?
The place to look isn't in his personal numbers, but in the acceptance of policies he forcefully advocated: Medicare for all, free higher education, student debt forgiveness, gay and trans rights, and so on. He didn't invent these, but he has always supported them. His popularity was formidable in 2016 when not all of these positions were at the forefront, and now they are becoming regular topics of conversation that all mainstream news outlets are asking of all candidates. He draws enormous crowds of supporters wherever he speaks, and raises many times more in individual small donations than the other candidates can get from corporate and financial backers.
There's also the fact that he is the current front-runner in a field of 743 candidates gunning for the nomination.
Bernie Sanders as a candidate and a person could scarcely be more different than Joe Biden. If you see the latter as more likely to beat Trump than the former, but don't see any ideological differences between them because they both look like Statler and Waldorf from the Muppets, you're placing perceived (and always, always inaccurate) success against the opposition over actual policies. But then, you said you preferred Biden to Bernie, "probably", as if they are somehow of the same ilk and it's a genuine head-scratcher to decide which one you like more. They aren't on the same spectrum with their agendas.