Merci Mack, a Black woman killed in Dallas, is 18th transgender death this year

[Toni]

The murders have been solved? All of these women have been murdered by black men?

Half of all homicides in America are committed by black people. The vast majority of murders are intraracial, so most of the killers of these black transwomen are almost certainly black (probably men).

I'm not certain where you got that figure but I'm pretty certain that you did not also take into consideration the limitations of the kinds of cases that go into compiling these stats.

As for your 'deduction' that the transwomen were killed by black men? Not based on actual facts but speculation.

Now, it seems to me that, if more than half the transwomen being killed are black transwomen, and I have no good reason to believe that black transwomen make up any more than about 12% of the transwoman population, then black America has a violent problem of transphobia expressed towards transwomen.

Wouldn't you agree? Isn't it a feminist position to address the perpetrators of the crime? Black men.

Are the deaths of transsexuals only important to transsexuals? Are not the deaths of everyone of importance to society?

It is it just that you dontcarra out these peoples deaths because they are trans? Or is it because they are black?

How do you get to there from anything I've said?

Upon a closer reading, I realize that your issue with transwomen pales in comparison with your issues with black men.

 

[Metaphor]

I'm not certain where you got that figure but I'm pretty certain that you did not also take into consideration the limitations of the kinds of cases that go into compiling these stats.

As for your 'deduction' that the transwomen were killed by black men? Not based on actual facts but speculation.

Of course it's based on facts. Most black victims of murder are killed by black men.

Now, if you are speculating that black women, or white people, are killing these black transwomen, you'd need to show evidence. Because most murders are intraracial and most murderers are men.

Upon a closer reading, I realize that your issue with transwomen pales in comparison with your issues with black men.

In other words, you are not at all willing to address the questions I've asked.

I understand. It's confronting to deal with facts that contradict your religion.

 

[repoman]

Poor unstable people who date or have sex with trans women may more volatile than average. Whereas a professional class dating one or using trans escorts has fewer pressures.

Then add in last place aversion (status, humiliation instead of money) and somewhat more macho culture than most whites (who are too macho already) and kaboom.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/occupy-wall-street-psychology/

To put it blunt it has been a source of humiliation for a nominally straight man to express attraction to or have sex with transwomen. Remember Eddie Murphy.

Internalized trans attraction phobia, is that the term?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The murders have been solved? All of these women have been murdered by black men?

Half of all homicides in America are committed by black people. The vast majority of murders are intraracial, so most of the killers of these black transwomen are almost certainly black (probably men).

This does not follow. The motivations for a specific case can be different than the general case. Now, it's likely that you're right but it is by no means proven.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Most black victims of murder are killed by black men.

Actually, most black victims of murder are killed by men. Why are you obsessed with race?

 

[J842P]

Most black victims of murder are killed by black men.

Actually, most black victims of murder are killed by men. Why are you obsessed with race?

He's not. You are just dishonestly representing him that way. Metaphor has clearly and unequivocally stated that most murders are committed by men. And it wouldn't be the first time. And this wouldn't be the first time you tried to use that as some sort of "gotcha".

I'll note, the OP brought race into this, not Metaphor.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Most black victims of murder are killed by black men.

Actually, most black victims of murder are killed by men. Why are you obsessed with race?

He's not. You are just dishonestly representing him that way. Metaphor has clearly and unequivocally stated that most murders are committed by men. And it wouldn't be the first time. And this wouldn't be the first time you tried to use that as some sort of "gotcha".

I'll note, the OP brought race into this, not Metaphor.

The op brought black people are killing black people so be mad at them into it? Please show that.

No, the op said the VICTIM was black. Then, people tried to make vitriolic distracting commentary akin to "oooh, looks like they hit the trifecta in the progressive stack."

Someone was murdered and you are okay with changing the topic with bullshit statements like that. And have the nerve to call me dishonest for bringing up the switcheroo.

 

[Metaphor]

Most black victims of murder are killed by black men.

Actually, most black victims of murder are killed by men. Why are you obsessed with race?

My statement was true. Why are you obsessed with denying reality?

 

[Metaphor]

Someone was murdered and you are okay with changing the topic with bullshit statements like that. And have the nerve to call me dishonest for bringing up the switcheroo.

It is your own dishonesty that needs to be questioned. If you want to help black transwomen, you should be exploring what it is in the black community that causes such high levels of violence inflicted on transwomen. Instead, you simply ignore the massively disproportionate number of black transwomen among transwomen murders.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Someone was murdered and you are okay with changing the topic with bullshit statements like that. And have the nerve to call me dishonest for bringing up the switcheroo.

It is your own dishonesty that needs to be questioned. If you want to help black transwomen, you should be exploring what it is in the black community that causes such high levels of violence inflicted on transwomen. Instead, you simply ignore the massively disproportionate number of black transwomen among transwomen murders.

There is neither a monolithic black community nor an overriding characteristic of said population that would be responsible for such thing since the vast majority are not out killing trans people. This is still you distracting and bringing race into it as a causal factor. Yup, the switcheroo!

 

[Metaphor]

Someone was murdered and you are okay with changing the topic with bullshit statements like that. And have the nerve to call me dishonest for bringing up the switcheroo.

It is your own dishonesty that needs to be questioned. If you want to help black transwomen, you should be exploring what it is in the black community that causes such high levels of violence inflicted on transwomen. Instead, you simply ignore the massively disproportionate number of black transwomen among transwomen murders.

There is neither a monolithic black community nor an overriding characteristic of said population that would be responsible for such thing since the vast majority are not out killing trans people. This is still you distracting and bringing race into it as a causal factor. Yup, the switcheroo!

There is neither a monolithic male community nor an overriding characteristics of said population that would be responsible for such thing since the vast majority are not out killing people. This is still you distracting and bringing sex into it as a casual factor. Yup, the switcheroo!

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

So I guess BIPOC is yet another acronym designed to exclude (or "other" [used as a verb] to use the proper woke terminology) white people.
But I am confused. I though POC already included B and I. What's going on here? Indians and blacks not colorful enough?

I think the "I" is "Indigenous".

Asians are POC, but black ranks above Asian in the SJW pecking order. Indeed, Asians have been referred to as 'white adjacent', which is of course nearly as bad as being white.

And, of course, black trans is the most sacralized of all.

I give up.

Derail the thread with your vicious hatred.

 

[Jarhyn]

And, of course, black trans is the most sacralized of all.

I give up.

Derail the thread with your vicious hatred.

Its almost as if they can't see how ridiculous they are? Like, I'm almost tempted to send this to my black trans woman ex-spouse just to see their heads explode hearing from an actual black trans woman.

I mean, life for them was hard before they transitioned.

I STILL worry about her whenever I think about her.

 

[repoman]

And, of course, black trans is the most sacralized of all.

I give up.

Derail the thread with your vicious hatred.

Where this unwarranted rage at innocent trans people is coming from is this, them being used as tokens for fucked up companies.

The issue is that companies are using the progressive stack to virtue signal and advertise while still doing all the corporate fuckery they always do.

On one hand they will find ways to cut or "go bankrupt" by accident pensions, limit wages and safety. Offshore jobs and have workers train their H1B replacements.

Then they also bring in diversity consultants instead of raising up working conditions.

So this is a misdirected anger at corporations and some portions of government and academia.

In the same way that Muhammad Ali said no Viet Cong called him a nigger, no trans ever attacked or insulted me. BUT, companies have pandered and weaponized trans and others as an excuse to change the topic after they fuck over the standard line worker.

If all working conditions and so on was on the upswing and these companies were not cynical, there would be less transferred resentment to these tokenized minorities.

Tokenizing them causes a resentment that should not exist.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

And, of course, black trans is the most sacralized of all.

I give up.

Derail the thread with your vicious hatred.

Where this unwarranted rage at innocent trans people is coming from is this, them being used as tokens for fucked up companies.

The issue is that companies are using the progressive stack to virtue signal and advertise while still doing all the corporate fuckery they always do.

On one hand they will find ways to cut or "go bankrupt" by accident pensions, limit wages and safety. Offshore jobs and have workers train their H1B replacements.

Then they also bring in diversity consultants instead of raising up working conditions.

So this is a misdirected anger at corporations and some portions of government and academia.

In the same way that Muhammad Ali said no Viet Cong called him a nigger, no trans ever attacked or insulted me. BUT, companies have pandered and weaponized trans and others as an excuse to change the topic after they fuck over the standard line worker.

If all working conditions and so on was on the upswing and these companies were not cynical, there would be less transferred resentment to these tokenized minorities.

Tokenizing them causes a resentment that should not exist.

Even if we accept this as somehow true, which I don't for some part of it and for some I do, it isn't very relevant to trans persons. It is more relevant to a race or other thread where people complain about things like affirmative action.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Most black victims of murder are killed by black men.

Actually, most black victims of murder are killed by men. Why are you obsessed with race?

Pretending it's an external problem is used to support racist narrative.

 

[repoman]

Where this unwarranted rage at innocent trans people is coming from is this, them being used as tokens for fucked up companies.

The issue is that companies are using the progressive stack to virtue signal and advertise while still doing all the corporate fuckery they always do.

On one hand they will find ways to cut or "go bankrupt" by accident pensions, limit wages and safety. Offshore jobs and have workers train their H1B replacements.

Then they also bring in diversity consultants instead of raising up working conditions.

So this is a misdirected anger at corporations and some portions of government and academia.

In the same way that Muhammad Ali said no Viet Cong called him a nigger, no trans ever attacked or insulted me. BUT, companies have pandered and weaponized trans and others as an excuse to change the topic after they fuck over the standard line worker.

If all working conditions and so on was on the upswing and these companies were not cynical, there would be less transferred resentment to these tokenized minorities.

Tokenizing them causes a resentment that should not exist.

Even if we accept this as somehow true, which I don't for some part of it and for some I do, it isn't very relevant to trans persons. It is more relevant to a race or other thread where people complain about things like affirmative action.

Everything is a hate crime now

 

[krypton iodine sulfur]

Everything is a hate crime now

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Everything except this. The police are investigating it as mischief to property. Even that is going a bit far, but hate crime... no.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Most black victims of murder are killed by black men.

Actually, most black victims of murder are killed by men. Why are you obsessed with race?

Pretending it's an external problem is used to support racist narrative.

You're going to have to explain "external" here.

 

[repoman]

Pretending it's an external problem is used to support racist narrative.

You're going to have to explain "external" here.

External from blacks, I would assume. External whites are not doing this killing.

But proximity is such a huge factor so whatever...