More deplorables ...

[Derec]

will this picture make someone here cream his jeans?

Not me, because I am not into crying women, although apart from being evil racist bitch, she is rather pretty.

The only positive is that this shows she is probably not a sociopath. That is some real emotion.

Still deserves the book being thrown at her. Let's see if the Cook County DA does the right thing with the charges.

 

[Keith&Co.]

So what did Trump say/do to make these 4 people decide to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged person?

'Make' isn't the right word. Probably the opposite is true.

But he did run a campaign that exploited a lot of hate and anger.
Which empowered a lot of angry, hateful people.
And their anger and hate is drawing a reaction from people who feel targeted by the anger and hate.
And, big surprise, it's gotten out of any one person's control.

So, no, Trump didn't make (force, coerce, direct, order, whatever) this happen. but he did create the conditions in which it happened.

 

[Malintent]

I think what I said. People hate Trump because of what Trump says / does. anything beyond that is your own construction and reflective only of your own need to find "fault".
You may think that Trump is a wonderful, charitable, and honest person that so many people have just rallied against for no good reason (thus, other people creating hate, as opposed to self-created), but most people think that is just retarded of you.

So what did Trump say/do to make these 4 people decide to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged person? I can't remember him suggesting people kidnap and torture anyone.

How would I know? I didn't even bring him up (but those 4 did in the video, apparently).. I just responded to the suggestion that there is some external force acting against Trump that is spreading misinformation that people are getting upset about. The fact of the matter is that Trump himself is the only source of trump hate.. as opposed to Clinton hate... a lot of that hate comes from things people say ABOUT Clinton, and not what Clinton actually says does or (claims to) intend. and much of that is plain false.

This is not really that nuanced a thing.. pretty fucking straightforward.

 

[dismal]

So what did Trump say/do to make these 4 people decide to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged person? I can't remember him suggesting people kidnap and torture anyone.

How would I know? I didn't even bring him up (but those 4 did in the video, apparently).. I just responded to the suggestion that there is some external force acting against Trump that is spreading misinformation that people are getting upset about. The fact of the matter is that Trump himself is the only source of trump hate.. as opposed to Clinton hate... a lot of that hate comes from things people say ABOUT Clinton, and not what Clinton actually says does or (claims to) intend. and much of that is plain false.

This is not really that nuanced a thing.. pretty fucking straightforward.

Straightforward? Why would hatred of Trump cause you to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy? Does that seem like an obvious logical step to you?

Trump said he wants to grab pussies, so let's kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy?

 

[Malintent]

Let's see if the Cook County DA does the right thing with the charges.

Doesn't look that way. From the article about the video that I read, the quotes from the police all imply they are desperately trying to avoid the hate crime angle at all costs.
I don't understand that. parts of the video were quoted with the words "nigger", and "white boy" used throughout... yet, if a black person that was caught red handed committing a crime attempts to murder a cop, and the cop shoots at him, it is white supremacy-cop murdering blacks, automatically... WTF?

 

[dismal]

So what did Trump say/do to make these 4 people decide to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged person?

'Make' isn't the right word. Probably the opposite is true.

But he did run a campaign that exploited a lot of hate and anger.
Which empowered a lot of angry, hateful people.
And their anger and hate is drawing a reaction from people who feel targeted by the anger and hate.
And, big surprise, it's gotten out of any one person's control.

So, no, Trump didn't make (force, coerce, direct, order, whatever) this happen. but he did create the conditions in which it happened.

Have you been having thoughts about kidnapping and torturing a mentally challenged guy?

I find that I have not.

 

[Malintent]

How would I know? I didn't even bring him up (but those 4 did in the video, apparently).. I just responded to the suggestion that there is some external force acting against Trump that is spreading misinformation that people are getting upset about. The fact of the matter is that Trump himself is the only source of trump hate.. as opposed to Clinton hate... a lot of that hate comes from things people say ABOUT Clinton, and not what Clinton actually says does or (claims to) intend. and much of that is plain false.

This is not really that nuanced a thing.. pretty fucking straightforward.

Straightforward? Why would hatred of Trump cause you to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy? Does that seem like an obvious logical step to you?

Trump said he wants to grab pussies, so let's kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy?

what is straightforward is what I said.. Trump is responsible for the FEELINGS people have for Trump... what can be more plainly reasonable to say? It's practically a tautology.
YOU are the one that committed the fallacy of composition by claiming that I implied Trump was responsible for the ACTIONS of other people.
As for the thought processes violent thugs use to justify their actions.. I'll leave that to you and the other experts in mind reading.

Are you being intentionally obtuse? you said that other people are responsible for Trump hate and I said that it is Trump... you then went on to accuse me of claiming trump caused the kidnapping... does that mean YOUR intent was to say these other people causing hate for Trump CAUSED the kidnapping? Take all that stuff you posted in reply to me and just turn it around on yourself, but replace "trump" with "other people".

Edited... fuck it, let me just help you with that... let's just start over with roles reversed...

It's the people who created the climate of anti-Trump hate that are responsible. You could have predicted something like this would happen.

So what did the people who created the climate of anti-Trump hate do to make these 4 people decide to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged person?

 

[Elixir]

Trump says he DOES grab pussies, i.e he abuses those he demeans.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Have you been having thoughts about kidnapping and torturing a mentally challenged guy?

I find that I have not.

Which would have some sort of connection to my post if either one of us felt particularly targeted by the hate and anger being broadcast by the bigots who feel empowered by Trump's win...

 

[laughing dog]

I am far less predictable or dishonest than say Athena or untermensche.

You are not fooling anyone but yourself.

 

[dismal]

Have you been having thoughts about kidnapping and torturing a mentally challenged guy?

I find that I have not.

Which would have some sort of connection to my post if either one of us felt particularly targeted by the hate and anger being broadcast by the bigots who feel empowered by Trump's win...

Your post suggests you think there is some clear causal relationship between things Trump has said and the desire to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy.

Since you see this as an obvious causal relationship, it seems reasonable to conclude things Trump has said have made you want to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy.

 

[LordKiran]

What prejudices?

Yet any time a white cop kills a black gangbanger a 100+ page thread is sure to ensue, with usual suspects defending the bangers.

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[LordKiran]

'Make' isn't the right word. Probably the opposite is true.

But he did run a campaign that exploited a lot of hate and anger.
Which empowered a lot of angry, hateful people.
And their anger and hate is drawing a reaction from people who feel targeted by the anger and hate.
And, big surprise, it's gotten out of any one person's control.

So, no, Trump didn't make (force, coerce, direct, order, whatever) this happen. but he did create the conditions in which it happened.

Have you been having thoughts about kidnapping and torturing a mentally challenged guy?

I find that I have not.

Not that this automatically nullifies your point but what exactly makes you the standard by which other people should be judged? Are you perfect and without fault? I just think its interesting to consider the kind of hubris it must take to make the unconscious assumption that you are that standard.

 

[dismal]

Have you been having thoughts about kidnapping and torturing a mentally challenged guy?

I find that I have not.

Not that this automatically nullifies your point but what exactly makes you the standard by which other people should be judged? Are you perfect and without fault? I just think its interesting to consider the kind of hubris it must take to make the unconscious assumption that you are that standard.

What makes you think I said that I am? Not the English words I wrote certainly.

Although in this case not having thoughts about kidnapping and torturing a mentally challenged doesn't seem to be too bad a thing and may be worth emulating.

 

[LordKiran]

Not that this automatically nullifies your point but what exactly makes you the standard by which other people should be judged? Are you perfect and without fault? I just think its interesting to consider the kind of hubris it must take to make the unconscious assumption that you are that standard.

What makes you think I said that I am? Not the English words I wrote certainly.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=implication

 

[dismal]

What makes you think I said that I am? Not the English words I wrote certainly.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=implication

Ah, you seem to have missed the fact there was a conversation going about a causal relationship. Some have asserted Trumps words cause people to want to go kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy.

I was merely explaining I had not been experiencing this effect.

 

[LordKiran]

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=implication

Ah, you seem to have missed the fact there was a conversation going about a causal relationship. Some have asserted Trumps words cause people to want to go kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy.

I was merely explaining I had not been experiencing this effect.

The greater thrust I should have put emphasis on then is that not everyone is like you, or any of the people who inhabit threads like this for that matter.

I say this not to make excuses for the people who committed this horrible crime. But rather that this is the reality of the nation we now live in. People are scared, panicky, and prone to hysterics. Likely the result of our people's uncertain future.

Personally I blame the media and public agitators for getting people's dander up on both sides.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I am far less predictable or dishonest than say Athena or untermensche.

I'd say all three are rather predictable. I can't speak to honesty. I don't doubt what any the three have ever said.

 

[dismal]

Ah, you seem to have missed the fact there was a conversation going about a causal relationship. Some have asserted Trumps words cause people to want to go kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy.

I was merely explaining I had not been experiencing this effect.

The greater thrust I should have put emphasis on then is that not everyone is like you, or any of the people who inhabit threads like this for that matter.

I say this not to make excuses for the people who committed this horrible crime. But rather that this is the reality of the nation we now live in. People are scared, panicky, and prone to hysterics. Likely the result of our people's uncertain future.

Personally I blame the media and public agitators for getting people's dander up on both sides.

It seems like your point would be more valid if you were going after those who claimed to know what causes other people to kidnap and torture mentally challenged guys.

I only spoke for myself.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Your post suggests you think there is some clear causal relationship between things Trump has said and the desire to kidnap and torture a mentally challenged guy.

I would have thought my post made it clear that I don't think it's clear.
It's anger and hate stirring up anger and hate. Not stirring up rational thought and proportionate responses.
And 'out of control.' I think that was in there, somewhere, wasn't it?
At least in the post I posted.
What post you're reading, I'm not entirely sure.

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I only spoke for myself.

Except for the bits where you put words into other people's mouths, yes.