New report on climate change released today

[angelo]

Yet the facts keep getting in the way of a good yarn!

https://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/10/opera-house-still-above-sea-level-despite-homogenisation/

Oh, well, yeah, you've done it now with Jennifer Marohasy. One scientist in Australia (with a degree in Botany and Entomology no less) clearly trumps the consensus of the other 97%.

Well done!

I mean, what do any of these global scientific institutions know that Jennifer Marohasy doesn't (including all of the ones in Australia)?

The following are scientific organizations that hold the position that Climate Change has been caused by human action:

Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Académie des Sciences, France
Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
Academy of Athens
Academy of Science of Mozambique
Academy of Science of South Africa
Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy of Sciences of Moldova
Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
African Academy of Sciences
Albanian Academy of Sciences
Amazon Environmental Research Institute
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Anthropological Association
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American College of Preventive Medicine
American Fisheries Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
American Public Health Association
American Quaternary Association
American Society for Microbiology
American Society of Agronomy
American Society of Civil Engineers
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Australian Academy of Science
Australian Bureau of Meteorology
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Institute of Marine Science
Australian Institute of Physics
Australian Marine Sciences Association
Australian Medical Association
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
Botanical Society of America
Brazilian Academy of Sciences
British Antarctic Survey
Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
California Academy of Sciences
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
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Canadian Association of Physicists
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Geophysical Union
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Society of Soil Science
Canadian Society of Zoologists
Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
Center for International Forestry Research
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Crop Science Society of America
Cuban Academy of Sciences
Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
Ecological Society of America
Ecological Society of Australia
Environmental Protection Agency
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European Academy of Sciences and Arts
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
European Science Foundation
Federation of American Scientists
French Academy of Sciences
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of Australia
Geological Society of London
Georgian Academy of Sciences
German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Indian National Science Academy
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand
Institution of Mechanical Engineers, UK
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InterAcademy Council
International Alliance of Research Universities
International Arctic Science Committee
International Association for Great Lakes Research
International Council for Science
International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
International Research Institute for Climate and Society
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
International Union of Pure and Applied Physics
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Islamic World Academy of Sciences
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Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
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Korean Academy of Science and Technology
Kosovo Academy of Sciences and Arts
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l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Latin American Academy of Sciences
Latvian Academy of Sciences
Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
National Academy of Sciences of Armenia
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National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic
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National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka
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National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
National Association of State Foresters
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Council of Engineers Australia
National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Research Council
National Science Foundation
Natural England
Natural Environment Research Council, UK
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Network of African Science Academies
New York Academy of Sciences
Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
Oklahoma Climatological Survey
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Pakistan Academy of Sciences
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Palestine Academy for Science and Technology
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Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Polish Academy of Sciences
Romanian Academy
Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
Royal Astronomical Society, UK
Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
Royal Irish Academy
Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
Royal Society of Canada
Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
Royal Society of the United Kingdom
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
Science and Technology, Australia
Science Council of Japan
Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research
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Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Slovak Academy of Sciences
Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Society for Ecological Restoration International
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of American Foresters
Society of Biology (UK)
Society of Systematic Biologists
Soil Science Society of America
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Sudan Academy of Sciences
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Sudanese National Academy of Science
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Tanzania Academy of Sciences
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The Wildlife Society (international)
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Turkish Academy of Sciences
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Uganda National Academy of Sciences
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Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Woods Hole Research Center
World Association of Zoos and Aquariums
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Forestry Congress
World Health Organization
World Meteorological Organization
Zambia Academy of Sciences
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Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences

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All the underlined are of course World Leading Scientific organisations bar none .........

 

[angelo]

Jennifer Marohasy is a libertarian advocate. She's not done science in many years. Being a scientist is not like being an author. Just because you've written a report once, doesn't make you an active scientist. She's not a scientist. She was a scientist. A long ago. Since then she's done corporate communication and libertarian advocacy work. What a coincidence that her views on climate change coincide with the views of the corporation that pays her bills. Who would have thunk?

Nevertheless, even if what you say is true, care to provide any evidence of which of her statements has been proven to be false? Again I ask: Which of the many catastrophes predicted by the ' warmists" over the past say, 3 decades has happened? Just one will do!

 

[untermensche]

Jennifer Marohasy is a libertarian advocate. She's not done science in many years. Being a scientist is not like being an author. Just because you've written a report once, doesn't make you an active scientist. She's not a scientist. She was a scientist. A long ago. Since then she's done corporate communication and libertarian advocacy work. What a coincidence that her views on climate change coincide with the views of the corporation that pays her bills. Who would have thunk?

Nevertheless, even if what you say is true, care to provide any evidence of which of her statements has been proven to be false? Again I ask: Which of the many catastrophes predicted by the ' warmists" over the past say, 3 decades has happened? Just one will do!

Show us her published peer reviewed studies so we can all look at them.

Not her opinions.

The studies she has done and published.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Jennifer Marohasy is a libertarian advocate. She's not done science in many years. Being a scientist is not like being an author. Just because you've written a report once, doesn't make you an active scientist. She's not a scientist. She was a scientist. A long ago. Since then she's done corporate communication and libertarian advocacy work. What a coincidence that her views on climate change coincide with the views of the corporation that pays her bills. Who would have thunk?

Nevertheless, even if what you say is true, care to provide any evidence of which of her statements has been proven to be false? Again I ask: Which of the many catastrophes predicted by the ' warmists" over the past say, 3 decades has happened? Just one will do!

Show us her published peer reviewed studies so we can all look at them.

Not her opinions.

The studies she has done and published.

Don't fall into his neo-con trap. Peer review is peer review. If you're not her peer your (and my) opinion doesn't matter. It's the opinion of the scientific community as a whole that matters. A scientists job is to do their best to challenge paradigm. Their job is to not agree. So when nearly all scientists agree on something major it's time for the rest us to listen. The fact that there's a couple of dissenting voices out there is just normal, and usually a sign of health.

But in this case she's clearly a propaganda voice for industry, so we can completely disregard her opinion. If this is best they've got, they've got nothing.

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I don't need a link. It's there for anyone willing to look at both sides, not just blindingly following theoretical modeling science instead of demonstrable, observable science.

But since you insist, It's Wiki.

Here.........................................https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...th_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming

Did you read the first fucking paragraph?

This is a list of scientists who have made statements that conflict with the scientific consensus on global warming as summarized by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and endorsed by other scientific bodies. A minority are climatologists. Nearly all publishing climate scientists (97–98%) support the consensus on anthropogenic climate change, hence this list represents a minority viewpoint.

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

All the underlined are of course World Leading Scientific organisations bar none .........

That's your counterargument? Judging books by their covers?

Fine, I'll take out the ones you underlined as somehow not being world leading scientific organisations "bar none" whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean. That gives us:

Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Académie des Sciences, France
Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
Academy of Athens
Academy of Science of Mozambique
Academy of Science of South Africa
Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy of Sciences of Moldova
Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
African Academy of Sciences
Albanian Academy of Sciences
Amazon Environmental Research Institute
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Anthropological Association
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American College of Preventive Medicine
American Fisheries Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
American Public Health Association
American Quaternary Association
American Society for Microbiology
American Society of Agronomy
American Society of Civil Engineers
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Australian Academy of Science
Australian Bureau of Meteorology
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Institute of Marine Science
Australian Institute of Physics
Australian Marine Sciences Association
Australian Medical Association
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
Botanical Society of America
Brazilian Academy of Sciences
British Antarctic Survey
Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
California Academy of Sciences
Canadian Association of Physicists
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Geophysical Union
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Society of Soil Science
Canadian Society of Zoologists
Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
Center for International Forestry Research
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Crop Science Society of America
Cuban Academy of Sciences
Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
Ecological Society of America
Ecological Society of Australia
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
European Science Foundation
Federation of American Scientists
French Academy of Sciences
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of Australia
Geological Society of London
Georgian Academy of Sciences
German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Indian National Science Academy
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand
InterAcademy Council
International Alliance of Research Universities
International Arctic Science Committee
International Association for Great Lakes Research
International Council for Science
International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
International Research Institute for Climate and Society
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
Korean Academy of Science and Technology
l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Latin American Academy of Sciences
Latvian Academy of Sciences
Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
National Association of State Foresters
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Council of Engineers Australia
National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Research Council
National Science Foundation
Natural England
Natural Environment Research Council, UK
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Network of African Science Academies
New York Academy of Sciences
Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
Oklahoma Climatological Survey
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Polish Academy of Sciences
Romanian Academy
Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
Royal Astronomical Society, UK
Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
Royal Irish Academy
Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
Royal Society of Canada
Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
Royal Society of the United Kingdom
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
Science and Technology, Australia
Science Council of Japan
Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Slovak Academy of Sciences
Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Society for Ecological Restoration International
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of American Foresters
Society of Biology (UK)
Society of Systematic Biologists
Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Woods Hole Research Center
World Association of Zoos and Aquariums
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Forestry Congress
World Health Organization
World Meteorological Organization
Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences

Now fuck off.

 

[starwater]

Yet the facts keep getting in the way of a good yarn!

https://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/10/opera-house-still-above-sea-level-despite-homogenisation/

Again - there is no denying that the climate has shifted over geologic time. That is not in dispute. Humankind has contributed to the current trend, that is not in dispute.

I will ask you the question again - do you believe in the do nothing approach?

Bullshit, and All these scientists say it's bullshit.

Scientists questioning the accuracy of IPCC climate projections
These scientists have said that it is not possible to project global climate accurately enough to justify the ranges projected for temperature and sea-level rise over the 21st century. They may not conclude specifically that the current IPCC projections are either too high or too low, but that the projections are likely to be inaccurate due to inadequacies of current global climate modeling.

David Bellamy, botanist.[19][20][21][22]
Lennart Bengtsson, meteorologist, Reading University.[23][24]
Piers Corbyn, owner of the business WeatherAction which makes weather forecasts.[25][26]
Susan Crockford, Zoologist, adjunct professor in Anthropology at the University of Victoria. [27][28][29]
Judith Curry, professor and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.[30][31][32][33]
Joseph D'Aleo, past Chairman American Meteorological Society's Committee on Weather Analysis and Forecasting, former Professor of Meteorology, Lyndon State College.[34][35][36][37]
Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society.[38][39]
Ivar Giaever, Norwegian–American physicist and Nobel laureate in physics (1973).[40]
Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University.[41][42]
Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences.[39][43][44][45]
Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement.[46][47][48][49][50][51][52]
Ross McKitrick, professor of economics and CBE chair in sustainable commerce, University of Guelph.[53][54]
Patrick Moore, former president of Greenpeace Canada.[55][56][57]
Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics Department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999–2003).[58][59]
Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow Australian National University.[60][61]
Roger A. Pielke, Jr., professor of environmental studies at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado at Boulder.[62][63]
Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics at University of Ottawa, research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and soil science.[64][65][66][67]
Harrison Schmitt, geologist, Apollo 17 astronaut, former US senator.[68][69]
Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry at Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm.[70][71]
Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London.[72][73]
Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute.[74][75]
Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor of atmospheric science at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.[76][77]
Fritz Vahrenholt, German politician and energy executive with a doctorate in chemistry.[78][79]
Scientists arguing that global warming is primarily caused by natural processes

Graph showing the ability with which a global climate model is able to reconstruct the historical temperature record, and the degree to which those temperature changes can be decomposed into various forcing factors. It shows the effects of five forcing factors: greenhouse gases, man-made sulfate emissions, solar variability, ozone changes, and volcanic emissions.[80]
These scientists have said that the observed warming is more likely to be attributable to natural causes than to human activities. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles.

Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences.[81][82]
Sallie Baliunas, retired astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.[83][84][85]
Timothy Ball, historical climatologist, and retired professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg.[86][87][88]
Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa.[89][90]
Vincent Courtillot, geophysicist, member of the French Academy of Sciences.[91]
Doug Edmeades, PhD., soil scientist, officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit.[92]
David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester.[93][94]
Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University.[95][96]
William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy; emeritus professor, Princeton University.[39][97]
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, Theoretical Physicist and Researcher, Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico.[98]
Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo.[99][100]
Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm.[101][102]
William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology.[103][104]
David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware.[105][106]
Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Missouri.[107][108]
Jennifer Marohasy, an Australian biologist, former director of the Australian Environment Foundation.[109][110]
Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa.[111][112]
Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.[113][114]
Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of Adelaide.[115][116]
Arthur B. Robinson, American politician, biochemist and former faculty member at the University of California, San Diego.[117][118]
Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie University and University of Colorado.[119][120]
Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University.[121][122][123]
Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo.[124][125]
Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.[126][127]
Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia.[128][129][130][131]
Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.[132][133]
Roy Spencer, meteorologist; principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville.[134][135]
Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center.[136][137]
George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University.[138][139]
Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa.[140][141]

Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa.[140][141]
Scientists arguing that the cause of global warming is unknown
These scientists have said that no principal cause can be ascribed to the observed rising temperatures, whether man-made or natural.

Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and founding director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks.[142][143]
Claude Allègre, French politician; geochemist, emeritus professor at Institute of Geophysics (Paris).[144][145]
Robert Balling, a professor of geography at Arizona State University.[146][147]
Pål Brekke, solar astrophycisist, senior advisor Norwegian Space Centre.[148][149]
John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCC reports.[150][151][152]
Petr Chylek, space and remote sensing sciences researcher, Los Alamos National Laboratory.[153][154]
David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma.[155][156]
Stanley B. Goldenberg a meteorologist with NOAA/AOML's Hurricane Research Division.[157][158]
Vincent R. Gray, New Zealand physical chemist with expertise in coal ashes.[159][160]
Keith E. Idso, botanist, former adjunct professor of biology at Maricopa County Community College District and the vice president of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change.[161][162]
Kary Mullis, 1993 Nobel laureate in chemistry, inventor of the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) method.[163][164][165]
Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists.[166][167]
Scientists arguing that global warming will have few negative consequences
These scientists have said that projected rising temperatures will be of little impact or a net positive for society or the environment.

Indur M. Goklany, electrical engineer, science and technology policy analyst for the United States Department of the Interior.[168][169][170]
Craig D. Idso, geographer, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change.[171][172]
Sherwood B. Idso, former research physicist, USDA Water Conservation Laboratory, and adjunct professor, Arizona State University.[173][174]
Patrick Michaels, senior fellow at the Cato Institute and retired research professor of environmental science at the University of Virginia.[175][176]
Deceased scientists
These scientists published material indicating their opposition to the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming prior to their deaths.
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August H. "Augie" Auer Jr. (1940–2007), retired New Zealand MetService meteorologist and past professor of atmospheric science at the University of Wyoming.[177][178]
Reid Bryson (1920–2008), emeritus professor of atmospheric and oceanic sciences, University of Wisconsin-Madison.[179][180]
Robert M. Carter (1942–2016), former head of the School of Earth Sciences at James Cook University.[181][182]
Chris de Freitas (1948–2017), associate professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland.[183][184]
William M. Gray (1929–2016), professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University.[185][186]
Yuri Izrael (1930–2014), former chairman, Committee for Hydrometeorology (USSR); former firector, Institute of Global Climate and Ecology (Russian Academy of Science); vice-chairman of IPCC, 2001-2007.[187][188][189]
Robert Jastrow (1925–2008), American astronomer, physicist, cosmologist and leading NASA scientist who, together with Fred Seitz and William Nierenberg, established the George C. Marshall Institute.[190][191][192]
Harold ("Hal") Warren Lewis (1923–2011), emeritus professor of physics and former department chairman at the University of California, Santa Barbara.[193][194]
Frederick Seitz (1911–2008), solid-state physicist, former president of the National Academy of Sciences and co-founder of the George C. Marshall Institute in 1984.[195][196][197]



http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming

You still didn't answer the question. Is your position to do nothing and allow the continued mining of non-renewable resources and let the air, water, oceans, groundwater, soil, be contaminated at will?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I don't need a link. It's there for anyone willing to look at both sides, not just blindingly following theoretical modeling science instead of demonstrable, observable science.

But since you insist, It's Wiki.

Here.........................................https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...th_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming

Note that virtually none of them have any relevant credentials.

 

[untermensche]

Show us her published peer reviewed studies so we can all look at them.

Not her opinions.

The studies she has done and published.

Don't fall into his neo-con trap. Peer review is peer review. If you're not her peer your (and my) opinion doesn't matter. It's the opinion of the scientific community as a whole that matters. A scientists job is to do their best to challenge paradigm. Their job is to not agree. So when nearly all scientists agree on something major it's time for the rest us to listen. The fact that there's a couple of dissenting voices out there is just normal, and usually a sign of health.

But in this case she's clearly a propaganda voice for industry, so we can completely disregard her opinion. If this is best they've got, they've got nothing.

I'd still like to see what kind of work she does.

I can't examine it with expertise but I can understand how she makes a conclusion.

 

[repoman]

I think that there is a way to "convince" (don't like the connotations of the word) a person that Global Warming/Climate Change is happening and will continue until a much warmer setpoint is reached. This will be followed by a very long, by human standards, reduction of CO2 by weathering taking tens of thousands of years if it gets out of hand.

I think it is possible with 50+ year old data and scientific framework. Since then it has become only more sure and underpinned with ice core and even much older data (involving stable isotopes the ratios of which are affected by temperature. There are tons of crosschecks for this data.

There is one point for you to check your sources about is do they when talking about the paleo record talk about the sun brightening as it ages?

http://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/~infocom/The%20Website/evolution.html

Wierd huh, but true. At any rate, this is a data anchor that is rock solid. The sun is constantly getting brighter and the earth will tend to get warmer - all other things being equal.

Why mention this? Because you will hear skeptics say that look how high the carbon dioxide was and the temperature was not insanely high. (Note that they ARE accepting the science here, because it helps their case at a surface level.)

Well that is because there is a weathering feedback system involving CO2 and temperature. Higher CO2 makes higher temp and more weathering to take the CO2 out. Lower temps (caused by lower solar luminosity in the past) will have lower weather and let CO2 from volcanism build.

 

[TSwizzle]

Laughable. The “climate summit” held in Poland, basically another boondoggle for champagne swilling charlatans, sees the Paris agreement unraveling. Which of course means another boondoggle. Bidding to hold these summit events is now similar to bidding to hold the Olympic Games. Risible. No wonder the people of France have had enough of this climate change charade.

 

[untermensche]

Yes. Isn't it great that life will get more difficult for humans in the near future.

Isn't it fun to drive towards a cliff full speed.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Laughable. The “climate summit” held in Poland, basically another boondoggle for champagne swilling charlatans, sees the Paris agreement unraveling. Which of course means another boondoggle. Bidding to hold these summit events is now similar to bidding to hold the Olympic Games. Risible. No wonder the people of France have had enough of this climate change charade.

No climate agreement has had enough teeth to be anything more than a way to placate the environmentalists. I opposed both Kyoto and Paris because of this--they're just kicking the can, not actually doing anything that matters.

 

[Underseer]

Yet the facts keep getting in the way of a good yarn!

https://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/10/opera-house-still-above-sea-level-despite-homogenisation/

Great!

Now use your superior understanding of climatology to produce a climate model that makes more accurate predictions than the currently accepted model! I can't wait to tell everyone that I knew you before you became famous! Maybe you'll receive prizes and[ent]hellip[/ent]

Oh.

You haven't produced a climate model that makes more accurate predictions because you aren't actually more expert than the experts? Huh. But that would mean that you're just another anti-science kook on the Internet making scientific claims without doing, you know, the science part.

 

[Underseer]

Laughable. The “climate summit” held in Poland, basically another boondoggle for champagne swilling charlatans, sees the Paris agreement unraveling. Which of course means another boondoggle. Bidding to hold these summit events is now similar to bidding to hold the Olympic Games. Risible. No wonder the people of France have had enough of this climate change charade.

No climate agreement has had enough teeth to be anything more than a way to placate the environmentalists. I opposed both Kyoto and Paris because of this--they're just kicking the can, not actually doing anything that matters.

Are you really that dumb?

No, we don't accept your ridiculous anti-science claims because despite all of your claims of being more expert than the experts, none of you have managed to produce a climate model that makes more accurate predictions than the currently accepted climate model.

And here's the truly insane thing about your position: the longer we wait to address this, the more expensive it will be to fix. Your delusions of mediocrity with regards to science is going to end up costing the whole economy an awful lot of money.

 

[repoman]

TSwizzle, read the 1896 paper by Arrhenius or at least heavily skim it. Don't read any interpretations of it that you can quibble with, just the source. After you have digested it, get back to us.

http://www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf

 

[angelo]

Show us her published peer reviewed studies so we can all look at them.

Not her opinions.

The studies she has done and published.

Don't fall into his neo-con trap. Peer review is peer review. If you're not her peer your (and my) opinion doesn't matter. It's the opinion of the scientific community as a whole that matters. A scientists job is to do their best to challenge paradigm. Their job is to not agree. So when nearly all scientists agree on something major it's time for the rest us to listen. The fact that there's a couple of dissenting voices out there is just normal, and usually a sign of health.

But in this case she's clearly a propaganda voice for industry, so we can completely disregard her opinion. If this is best they've got, they've got nothing.

A couple of dissenting scientists? You have bothered to remove your blinkers and look at the list [and link] Iv'e posted of real scientists who dispute the mantra of man made global war........oops, here I go again.........climate change? You're quite welcome to Google any of those names to check out their credentials!

 

[angelo]

All the underlined are of course World Leading Scientific organisations bar none .........

That's your counterargument? Judging books by their covers?

Fine, I'll take out the ones you underlined as somehow not being world leading scientific organisations "bar none" whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean. That gives us:

Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Académie des Sciences, France
Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
Academy of Athens
Academy of Science of Mozambique
Academy of Science of South Africa
Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy of Sciences of Moldova
Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
African Academy of Sciences
Albanian Academy of Sciences
Amazon Environmental Research Institute
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Anthropological Association
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American College of Preventive Medicine
American Fisheries Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
American Public Health Association
American Quaternary Association
American Society for Microbiology
American Society of Agronomy
American Society of Civil Engineers
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Australian Academy of Science
Australian Bureau of Meteorology
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Institute of Marine Science
Australian Institute of Physics
Australian Marine Sciences Association
Australian Medical Association
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
Botanical Society of America
Brazilian Academy of Sciences
British Antarctic Survey
Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
California Academy of Sciences
Canadian Association of Physicists
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Geophysical Union
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Society of Soil Science
Canadian Society of Zoologists
Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
Center for International Forestry Research
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Crop Science Society of America
Cuban Academy of Sciences
Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
Ecological Society of America
Ecological Society of Australia
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
European Science Foundation
Federation of American Scientists
French Academy of Sciences
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of Australia
Geological Society of London
Georgian Academy of Sciences
German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Indian National Science Academy
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand
InterAcademy Council
International Alliance of Research Universities
International Arctic Science Committee
International Association for Great Lakes Research
International Council for Science
International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
International Research Institute for Climate and Society
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
Korean Academy of Science and Technology
l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Latin American Academy of Sciences
Latvian Academy of Sciences
Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
National Association of State Foresters
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Council of Engineers Australia
National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Research Council
National Science Foundation
Natural England
Natural Environment Research Council, UK
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Network of African Science Academies
New York Academy of Sciences
Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
Oklahoma Climatological Survey
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Polish Academy of Sciences
Romanian Academy
Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
Royal Astronomical Society, UK
Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
Royal Irish Academy
Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
Royal Society of Canada
Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
Royal Society of the United Kingdom
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
Science and Technology, Australia
Science Council of Japan
Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Slovak Academy of Sciences
Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Society for Ecological Restoration International
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of American Foresters
Society of Biology (UK)
Society of Systematic Biologists
Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Woods Hole Research Center
World Association of Zoos and Aquariums
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Forestry Congress
World Health Organization
World Meteorological Organization
Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences

Now fuck off.

The last ten or so also have extremely credible credentials right?

 

[angelo]

Yet the facts keep getting in the way of a good yarn!

https://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/10/opera-house-still-above-sea-level-despite-homogenisation/

Great!

Now use your superior understanding of climatology to produce a climate model that makes more accurate predictions than the currently accepted model! I can't wait to tell everyone that I knew you before you became famous! Maybe you'll receive prizes and[ent]hellip[/ent]

Oh.

You haven't produced a climate model that makes more accurate predictions because you aren't actually more expert than the experts? Huh. But that would mean that you're just another anti-science kook on the Internet making scientific claims without doing, you know, the science part.

Fuck me! So forget about the past 30 years or so of predictions of climate catastrophe because not a single one can be cited here, but I should fear for future catastrophically coming events based purely on computer models by already discredited clowns? Half of these clowns were predicting a coming " Ice Age " in the 70's. When their dire predictions failed to materialize, they quietly switched to a completely opposite doomsday scenario of " global warming!

There was something known as the Oregon Petition urging the US government to reject policies aimed at stopping GW/CC because the signatories do not believe in man made CO2 based GW/CC. Nearly 31.000 scientists signed the petition, 9.000 oif them Phd's and many with backgrounds in atmospheric physics,climatology and meteorology. Physics legends Edward Teller and Freeman Dyson are among the signatories of the petition.

Source..................https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Laughable. The “climate summit” held in Poland, basically another boondoggle for champagne swilling charlatans, sees the Paris agreement unraveling. Which of course means another boondoggle. Bidding to hold these summit events is now similar to bidding to hold the Olympic Games. Risible. No wonder the people of France have had enough of this climate change charade.

No climate agreement has had enough teeth to be anything more than a way to placate the environmentalists. I opposed both Kyoto and Paris because of this--they're just kicking the can, not actually doing anything that matters.

Are you really that dumb?

No, we don't accept your ridiculous anti-science claims because despite all of your claims of being more expert than the experts, none of you have managed to produce a climate model that makes more accurate predictions than the currently accepted climate model.

And here's the truly insane thing about your position: the longer we wait to address this, the more expensive it will be to fix. Your delusions of mediocrity with regards to science is going to end up costing the whole economy an awful lot of money.

Sorry, but you're the one being dumb here--you didn't read what I actually wrote.

I oppose both Kyoto and Paris because I consider them exercises in pretending do something rather than actually dealing with the problem. There are times that a half-assed "solution" is worse than none at all and this is such a case.

- - - Updated - - -

Yet the facts keep getting in the way of a good yarn!

https://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/10/opera-house-still-above-sea-level-despite-homogenisation/

Great!

Now use your superior understanding of climatology to produce a climate model that makes more accurate predictions than the currently accepted model! I can't wait to tell everyone that I knew you before you became famous! Maybe you'll receive prizes and[ent]hellip[/ent]

Oh.

You haven't produced a climate model that makes more accurate predictions because you aren't actually more expert than the experts? Huh. But that would mean that you're just another anti-science kook on the Internet making scientific claims without doing, you know, the science part.

Fuck me! So forget about the past 30 years or so of predictions of climate catastrophe because not a single one can be cited here, but I should fear for future catastrophically coming events based purely on computer models by already discredited clowns? Half of these clowns were predicting a coming " Ice Age " in the 70's. When their dire predictions failed to materialize, they quietly switched to a completely opposite doomsday scenario of " global warming!

There was something known as the Oregon Petition urging the US government to reject policies aimed at stopping GW/CC because the signatories do not believe in man made CO2 based GW/CC. Nearly 31.000 scientists signed the petition, 9.000 oif them Phd's and many with backgrounds in atmospheric physics,climatology and meteorology. Physics legends Edward Teller and Freeman Dyson are among the signatories of the petition.

Source..................https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition

It's amazing how few of the deniers have credentials in any way related to understanding the actual problem.