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New report on climate change released today

TSwizzle said:
And let's not forget "Climate Justice". That will need some explaining to the plebs.
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It’s New Orleans, where the poor get flooded through inadequate level system and wealthy are just fine at higher ground.
 
What about the poor bastards in Mailbu whose homes were devastated by wildfires and mudslides, where is the "climate justice" for them coming from ?
 
TSwizzle said:
What about the poor bastards in Mailbu whose homes were devastated by wildfires and mudslides, where is the "climate justice" for them coming from ?
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How many of them are now destitute and living in their cars?

We don't need to know exactly where their safety net came from - just that they have one. Losing a lot is not losing everything. Nobody needs to pass the hat to help out someone who lost millions - but still has millions left. We help out the guy who loses a few thousands - and now has nothing at all. How terribly unjust that is - helping out the guy whose total losses were far smaller. :rolleyes:
 
Had nice deep diurnal convection yesterday evening that cleared off around 10pm after all the CAPE had been used up. That set up a clear night with excellent radiational cooling. Cold air drainage made for a nice offshore breeze this morning with NW winds at about 5-7kts. Such a set up results in our coolest possible summer mornings. Low this morning was 76F, 4 degrees above average. Thus we have yet another summer where every morning is above the long term average of 72F. The "cold" mornings are 74 to 76 and the "warm" mornings are 78-82 which is often a record warmest. It's all cycles right. Still waiting for it to cycle back to the regime that is in the record from 1898 to 1998 and have some record cool mornings to balance out the dozens of record warm mornings that we have experienced for the last 10+ consecutive summers.
 
Which proves GW/CC/CD? Forgetting entirely that this planet is an ever changing, dynamic evolving place that's been in constant upheaval since it was formed out of star dust of long ago supernovas. The climate is part of this constant ever changing planet. Which explains, among many other things how there happens to be salt in the Himalayas.

All salt comes from a salted body of water, be it sea or salt-water lake. Most of No. Six Depot sea salts come from the sea—Trapani from Sicily, Fleur de Sel of Guerande, Hawaiian Hiwa Kai--and through wind, salt and the industrious hands of man who funnel the sea water into ever narrower pools, we arrive at salt. But there are also mountain sea salts that, well, are found nowhere near a body of water. Or at least a present-day one…

Himalaya sea salt

Once upon a time—250 million years ago give or take a millennia--sea salt beds, now deep within the Himalaya Mountains, began to crystallize and were covered by lava. Aside from keeping these salt beds in a pristine environment that has been surrounded by snow and ice year round, the lava is thought to have protected the salt from modern-day pollution leading to what most believe is the purest salt on earth.

To this day, it is still extracted from mines and caves by hand, according to long-standing tradition, and without the use of any mechanical devices or explosion techniques. After being hand-selected, chiseled out, the salt is then hand-crushed, hand-washed, and dried in the sun.

https://sixdepot.com/blogs/news/44937089-mountain-sea-salt-unearthing-the-past
 
angelo said:
Which proves GW/CC/CD? Forgetting entirely that this planet is an ever changing, dynamic evolving place that's been in constant upheaval since it was formed out of star dust of long ago supernovas. The climate is part of this constant ever changing planet. Which explains, among many other things how there happens to be salt in the Himalayas.

All salt comes from a salted body of water, be it sea or salt-water lake. Most of No. Six Depot sea salts come from the sea—Trapani from Sicily, Fleur de Sel of Guerande, Hawaiian Hiwa Kai--and through wind, salt and the industrious hands of man who funnel the sea water into ever narrower pools, we arrive at salt. But there are also mountain sea salts that, well, are found nowhere near a body of water. Or at least a present-day one…

Himalaya sea salt

Once upon a time—250 million years ago give or take a millennia--sea salt beds, now deep within the Himalaya Mountains, began to crystallize and were covered by lava. Aside from keeping these salt beds in a pristine environment that has been surrounded by snow and ice year round, the lava is thought to have protected the salt from modern-day pollution leading to what most believe is the purest salt on earth.

To this day, it is still extracted from mines and caves by hand, according to long-standing tradition, and without the use of any mechanical devices or explosion techniques. After being hand-selected, chiseled out, the salt is then hand-crushed, hand-washed, and dried in the sun.

https://sixdepot.com/blogs/news/44937089-mountain-sea-salt-unearthing-the-past
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And what is the relevance here? You're talking about geologic processes here, nothing about the climate.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
angelo said:
Which proves GW/CC/CD? Forgetting entirely that this planet is an ever changing, dynamic evolving place that's been in constant upheaval since it was formed out of star dust of long ago supernovas. The climate is part of this constant ever changing planet. Which explains, among many other things how there happens to be salt in the Himalayas.

All salt comes from a salted body of water, be it sea or salt-water lake. Most of No. Six Depot sea salts come from the sea—Trapani from Sicily, Fleur de Sel of Guerande, Hawaiian Hiwa Kai--and through wind, salt and the industrious hands of man who funnel the sea water into ever narrower pools, we arrive at salt. But there are also mountain sea salts that, well, are found nowhere near a body of water. Or at least a present-day one…

Himalaya sea salt

Once upon a time—250 million years ago give or take a millennia--sea salt beds, now deep within the Himalaya Mountains, began to crystallize and were covered by lava. Aside from keeping these salt beds in a pristine environment that has been surrounded by snow and ice year round, the lava is thought to have protected the salt from modern-day pollution leading to what most believe is the purest salt on earth.

To this day, it is still extracted from mines and caves by hand, according to long-standing tradition, and without the use of any mechanical devices or explosion techniques. After being hand-selected, chiseled out, the salt is then hand-crushed, hand-washed, and dried in the sun.

https://sixdepot.com/blogs/news/44937089-mountain-sea-salt-unearthing-the-past
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And what is the relevance here? You're talking about geologic processes here, nothing about the climate.
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Well he is limited education wise for climate change, so dumb and/or irrelevant observations is all he has.
 
I'm the dumb bastard here am I? Then please explain to this dumb cluck the lack of linkage between CO2 levels and temperatures in the established geological record of the Earth! Per favor!
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/04/us/alaska-heat-anchorage-fireworks.html


With the combined forces of climate change that has disrupted temperature trends around the state, a remarkable dearth of ice in the Bering Sea and weather patterns generating a general heat wave, Alaska is facing a Fourth of July unlike any before. Anchorage has canceled its fireworks display because of wildfire concerns, city officials are worrying about air quality and forecasters expect temperatures to rival those in Miami.

“This is unprecedented,” Anchorage’s mayor, Ethan Berkowitz, said in an interview. “I tease people that Anchorage is the coolest city in the country — and climatically that is true — but right now we are seeing record heat.”
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Alaska is experiencing many of the effects of a heating planet, as the nation’s fastest-warming state, according to the Fourth National Climate Assessment. The state’s temperatures are rising at twice the global average rate, with spring temperatures averaging about two to five degrees warmer than those of half a century ago.
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I don't know angelo, but that rapid speed of warming sure doesn't sound like typical change to me. Gee. I wonder what was different this time. Could it possibly have anything to do with human activity? Duh.
 
Darn facts keep getting in the way of the alarmist though!

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/07/160707101029.htm


During the Ordovician period, the concentration of CO2 in Earth's atmosphere was about eight times higher than today. It has been hard to explain why the climate cooled and why the Ordovician glaciations took place. A new study, published in Nature Communications, shows that the weathering of rock caused by early non-vascular plants had the potential to cause such a global cooling effect.

"When we can better understand the carbon cycle in the past, we can better predict what happens with the climate in the future," says Philipp Porada of Stockholm University, one of the authors of the study.

Non-vascular plants, such as mosses, hornworts and liverworts, probably evolved during the Ordovician period, around 450 million years ago. They are older than vascular plants, such as trees and grasses, and together with lichens, which are a symbiosis of fungi and algae, they formed the earliest terrestrial vegetation. Today's successors of these organisms are distributed worldwide and are characterised by their ability to survive in environments in which the supply of both water and nutrients is scarce. They are found in both cold and warm desert regions and are able to grow on rock surfaces and the bark of trees. Although they do not have real roots, they affect the surfaces on which they grow: the release of various organic acids dissolves underlying rock minerals.
 
I like how he jumps from "hey look it snowed in Albany, NY in November therefore there is no warming" to "The climate has always changed, look at the conditions 1 billion years ago".
 
July Temperature Distribution.jpg

I'm wondering. Is it Ordovician moss that explains this big sudden shift in climate for east central Florida? Don't blame the station. The signal is the same at DAB, MLB, VRB and some interior weather stations as well.
 
He left this part out of his Ordovician post:

This has important implications for the climate system, since chemical weathering of silicate rocks such as granite results in a drawdown of atmospheric CO2 and may therefore lead to global cooling. During the weathering process CO2 dissolves in water as acid, and is then transported to the ocean where the carbon is buried as carbonate rock.
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