Split New York City Mayoral Race

[Derec]

I'm not sure he ever said that. Derec said he said that but I have seen no proof of it.

He was asked about the phrase, and he defended it as something innocuous.
I explained why his apologetics does not hold water in post #2,178.

 

[pood]

I think Derec thinks that all 750,000 Muslims in NYC are sleeper-cell terrorists and than Sharia law will be enacted here if Mamdhani is elected mayor.

 

[pood]

Also, Mamdhani bested Cuomo among Hispanic and white voters, but trailed badly among black voters.

 

[pood]

And 20 percent of Jewish voters went for Mahmdani!

 

[pood]

Basically, Mamdhani built a diverse coalition and brought out a wave of new voters. Good luck in the general! The last thing we need are the creeps Cuomo and Adams and all the stinking rot they represent.

 

[pood]

Bernie Sanders nails it on Mamdhani.

 

[Jarhyn]

Basically, Mamdhani built a diverse coalition and brought out a wave of new voters. Good luck in the general! The last thing we need are the creeps Cuomo and Adams and all the stinking rot they represent.

To be fair, we do need effective governance, and those parts of the democratic platform, maybe we retain. He got plenty of new votes, Cuomo did get a significant minority, so maybe we should ask if Cuomo has any platform planks he wants to maintain.

Progressives shouldn't be awful that way, nobody should

 

[ZiprHead]

I'm not sure he ever said that. Derec said he said that but I have seen no proof of it.

He was asked about the phrase, and he defended it as something innocuous.
I explained why his apologetics does not hold water in post #2,178.

Your explanation does not constitute what he actually said. Why does it seem that you are trying to avoid posting what Mamdani actually said?

 

[Harry Bosch]

I was about ten years old when my mother explained her "pendulum" theory of politics to me. She and I are both centrists, but when the pendulum has swung too far to the right, we must push leftward as hard as we can, hoping to get back to the center.

For this reason I am delighted at the victory of Zohran Mamdani even if he is leftier than I. I am disappointed that some Democratic leaders are not supporting him, and may even seek to defeat him in November.

Robert Reich -- one of my heroes -- certainly supports him. You would see that in this video except that I've set the time to skip to the midway point where we hear Reich's EXTREMELY prescient remarks from 31 years ago.

Well, he hasn't won yet! He's won a primary in a liberal state. The reason why some on the left didn't support him in the primary because they didn't think that he can win in a general. The verdict is out on that.

 

[Derec]

This nekulturny is really eating rice with his fingers?

 

[laughing dog]

Yes. And in some parts of the world, it is the traditional and acceptable way to eat rice.

 

[ZiprHead]

I was about ten years old when my mother explained her "pendulum" theory of politics to me. She and I are both centrists, but when the pendulum has swung too far to the right, we must push leftward as hard as we can, hoping to get back to the center.

The "pendulum theory" has a lot of merit. However, if you push too far to the left you overshoot again, leading to a swing to the right. The goal should be to dampen the amplitude, not increase it by pushing hard.

For this reason I am delighted at the victory of Zohran Mamdani even if he is leftier than I. I am disappointed that some Democratic leaders are not supporting him, and may even seek to defeat him in November.

I think he would be a disaster if he wins. And he will damage the Democratic brand in the long run.
Dems have been moving left even before 2016, but TACO's surprise victory accelerated that trend, leading to Sergeant Sandy (I know how much you love this moniker!) and her Squad mates not only getting elected, but, in addition to their regimental commander Colonel Bernie Sanders, becoming in many ways the face of the Democratic Party.
I think this lurch to the left was the foundation for Biden Administration moving to the Left, especially on spending, and its subsequent lack of popularity. And that led directly to TACO 2.0. And now Dems are poised to repeat the same mistake.

Above you said:

She and I are both centrists,

... but then ...

Robert Reich -- one of my heroes -- certainly supports him.

Those two statements are not consistent, given how far to the left Mr. Reich is.

Robert Reich is a centrist compared to the rest of the world. And I believe most of the people of the US are to the left of where you think they are.

 

[Jarhyn]

@Loren Pechtel a much more simplified single-person version of the effect that causes elections to be won or lost because people buy into a belief or reject it, pertaining to the belief that they CAN win with progressive interests:

Someone is doing a task that they have done before.

Someone heckles them, planting a belief that they will fail this time.

This causes them to fail to put in the effort they need to succeed.

The belief that they would fail made the reality of failure follow.

One of the more important aspects of social interaction among humans is that people believe what people around them will say they believe, or will act like it at any rate.

By merely accepting the belief, others see you accepting the belief and the belief spreads and this belief spread by the continued nucleation of those who just accept it because an "authority" says it, and before you know it the "dog" has been "wagged" and the belief, or in the case of the initial messages the desire for the outcome, makes the outcome happen.

It's not magic, it's group psychology.

 

[Derec]

Yes. And in some parts of the world, it is the traditional and acceptable way to eat rice.

Yeah, but in this part of the world, we have these new inventions called utensils. Forks are most common, but there are also chopsticks if he prefers.

 

[laughing dog]

Yes. And in some parts of the world, it is the traditional and acceptable way to eat rice.

Yeah, but in this part of the world, we have these new inventions called utensils. Forks are most common, but there are also chopsticks if he prefers.

In this part of the world, in Laotian, and Indian restaurants, I’ve seen people use their fingers to eat rice.

 

[Politesse]

I was about ten years old when my mother explained her "pendulum" theory of politics to me. She and I are both centrists, but when the pendulum has swung too far to the right, we must push leftward as hard as we can, hoping to get back to the center.

You know, I think I quite agree with that, and it's an interesting way of considering things. Though, the problem of our age is that a third of the country seems to think we've spent the last twenty years on a sharp leftward swing, while another third thinks we've spent the better part of the decade falling into fascism.

 

[barbos]

This nekulturny is really eating rice with his fingers?

Could it be that NY has large uzbek emigrant population?

 

[thebeave]

This nekulturny is really eating rice with his fingers?

I wish I knew about this as a kid. I used to justify my bad table manners by telling my mom that they do it in other counties. Most notably, burping* and slurping soup and telling her that in Japan, its a compliment to the chef.

* just found out that the burping is an urban legend. Oh well. Good thing there was no internet back then.

 

[Emily Lake]

Incidentally, before sitting down to write this, I grabbed a coffee from another halal cart. I paid a buck instead of the $3.76 I would have had to pay for the same coffee at the white-bread corporate Starbucks one black away.

How dare you demonize black coffee, what are you, a racist?




Typos sometimes make my day.

 

[Derec]

Could it be that NY has large uzbek emigrant population?

There might be. Sayfullo Saipov, a Diversity Immigrant Visa program recipient who drove his "truck of peace" into people in NYC murdering 8, is Uzbek.

But this seems to be a more general Muslim custom.

[Apologies for the accursed vertical video]