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“Mississippi on line two…”
Nov 3rd 2026 - GO OUT AND VOTE - democracy is on the line.
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I honestly don't know. This time during the 2016 election cycle everyone was convinced it was going to be Hilary Clinton against Jeb Bush. 2020 Bernie Sanders was in the clear lead and with regards to 2024 it was looking like a rematch between Biden and Trump. Trump's first impeachment took five months and I'm not confident to guess what's going to happen this time next June.
But if Trump keeps acting like he has done the past few days there is a non-zero chance of it happening.
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Sure, but MS and AK don't make 11...
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You missed my point perhaps. The current Mississippi results show that perhaps senators in Idaho, Arkansas and Alabama shouldn’t be as sure about their reelection chances as perhaps they have always been in the past.
But maybe I missed your point in bringing those states.
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Trump just gave the Republicans the biggest political beatdown in US history. At least some of them have to realize there is no future for the party with Trump hanging around their necks.
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Before this past election you may have been right. Today I wouldn't be so sure.
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This is beyond ridiculous fanfiction. A riot that caused the Capitol to be evacuated, how'd these people vote again? Also, Trump won the popular vote after having conspired the Capitol riot.
I would love for that to happen, but there are a lot of things in life that I'd love to have happen, but that doesn't make it remotely possible. I am not going to say that the GOP won't make Trump leave office. That could possibly happen, but it won't be through impeachment.
Let's also not forget, Texas GOP candidate was poison. The Kansas GOP candidate had issues with suing patients. Iowa was an open seat. South Carolina had the late senator's self admitted not up for task sister at the candidate. Yes, Maine lost, but that is a blue state. People are reading too deeply into the midterm results as being a mega-quake that will shake again in 2028 if the Republicans don't vote to impeach.
Please, listen, the Democrat leadership is already telling us that impeachment is off the table. There will be investigations, as there should, but the Democrats are not impeaching Trump. This isn't an opinion. It is what the leadership is saying and the reason for that is they want to govern in 2029 and in order to do that, they need a Super-Majority. And that means coloring inside the lines.
You need to ask yourself, what matters more: a failed impeachment (heck, even a successful impeachment/conviction gives us Vance as President) or a passing / signed legislative agenda in 2029?
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Well Damn, if they hadn’t sent so many ‘Pugs home they’d have more of them to try to convert!
Seriously … is it such a reach to imagine 11 of the 44 surviving pugs deciding they’re over the fucker who eviscerated their party?
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Any plan in Congress that requires the GOP to do "the right thing", particularly in following along with the Democrats, is *checks notes* "destined to failure".
What has the GOP done since 1995 that has given you this clinically insane sense of optmism? Condoned the riot, "death panels", Ken Starr, wag the dog with bin Laden, Iraq War propaganda. About the only thing they didn't do wrong was fuck with TARP as a party.
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Then the definition of failure needs adjustment. In this example, a “failure” rate of 75% when trying to persuade pugs it’s in their interest to kill the albatross that has been plaguing them, would provide an outcome of killing the albatross.
Since, in fact, this WOULD (imho) be in their interest at this juncture, and will become increasingly so over the coming months, I think it’s worth a go. At least once about a million other things Trump broke, are fixed.
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Dude, you are too old to be that naive.
At best we can convince these people to over-ride a veto on tariffs or Epstein II or Iran funding. The GOP would see the impeachment of Trump as a brutal scar to the GOP not merely Trump. But they might, ...maybe... be willing to lame duck some policies of his that aren't remotely GOPish. Maybe.
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Certainly, the nadir of naïveté would be to think “these people” would respond to “left wing radical persuasion”. But that’s not required. The terrain if the territory is changing, and I don’t find the notion that one in four senate pugs might find it propitious to opine that Dear Donald, who did so much to make America Great Again, is inhibiting the very progress for which we thank him from the bottom of our little black hearts.
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I don't think I can survive another 2 years of Rump.
Seriously. I don't think the country can survive another 2 years of Rump.
Even if JD takes over, he won't have the support or MAGA behind him.
As I mentioned before - use the former to achieve the latter. Show all the the people who voted against impeaching Trump in election ads, keep repeating "The Republican party is the Party of Trump - here's the proof", and it should be easiser to pass legislation in 2029.
I'll even go one further - once sworn in 2027 pass legislation that you know Trump will veto (Medicare for all, cut funding for the Iran war, accountability in ICE etc), then impeach him. Make Americans show how much Trump hates them then show Americans how much the GOP is beholden to him. Then keep repeating.
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I would think the list of those not up for re-election would be the ones easier to convince to impeach.
I'm sorry - how so?