Now are you willing to believe the PA pays terrorists?

[Jolly_Penguin]

We pay them for being SEALs. We don't pay them for killing non-combatants.

So cute that you believe that.

 

[laughing dog]

We pay them for being SEALs. We don't pay them for killing non-combatants.

We pay members of the armed forces for obeying their orders. If non-combatants get killed while they obey their orders, no one has deductions from their pay. Your double standard is telling.

 

[Bronzeage]

In the light of the atrocities heaped on the people of Palestine by Israel, it is possible and plausible to expect that the PA attempts to compensate those who are on its side and the Times of Israel would label anybody opposed to Israeli operations as a terrorist. Come on now...this article came from TIMES OF ISRAEL. This is clearly a propaganda rag.

That doesn't change the fact that the compensation is being based on the terrorism they committed.

Would you be more comfortable with a fixed salary structure, combined with an annual performance review?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I'm pretty sure the comment was in reference to the West Bank (and maybe including the Gaza Strip).

The Palestinians consider all of Israel to be stolen.

Gaza/The West Bank won't meet the condition you say will bring peace.

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We pay them for being SEALs. We don't pay them for killing non-combatants.

We pay members of the armed forces for obeying their orders. If non-combatants get killed while they obey their orders, no one has deductions from their pay. Your double standard is telling.

That's not the situation at hand here.

The PA is reviewing the actions and paying money based on how many civilians they killed. We certainly don't pay bonuses for killing civilians!

 

[untermensche]

The Palestinians consider all of Israel to be stolen.

And the world only considers some lands Israeli citizens occupy as stolen.

That is the daily crime that goes on without resolution.

Even Israeli courts have ruled the settlements are a violation of international law.

Israel doesn't even offer up a defense for the theft.

It just takes what it wants and there is no force to stop it.

 

[laughing dog]

The Palestinians consider all of Israel to be stolen.

Gaza/The West Bank won't meet the condition you say will bring peace.

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We pay them for being SEALs. We don't pay them for killing non-combatants.

We pay members of the armed forces for obeying their orders. If non-combatants get killed while they obey their orders, no one has deductions from their pay. Your double standard is telling.

That's not the situation at hand here.

The PA is reviewing the actions and paying money based on how many civilians they killed. We certainly don't pay bonuses for killing civilians!

You are evading the issue - we pay soliders for following orders. If those orders entail civilian deaths, those soldiers get paid just the same. So, we do pay people for killing non-combatants, just not explicitly or in direct pay for performance.

 

[Bronzeage]

The Palestinians consider all of Israel to be stolen.

Gaza/The West Bank won't meet the condition you say will bring peace.

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We pay them for being SEALs. We don't pay them for killing non-combatants.

We pay members of the armed forces for obeying their orders. If non-combatants get killed while they obey their orders, no one has deductions from their pay. Your double standard is telling.

That's not the situation at hand here.

The PA is reviewing the actions and paying money based on how many civilians they killed. We certainly don't pay bonuses for killing civilians!

Do you know of any war where civilians were not killed? What difference does it make if the soldiers are paid by the hour, or the death?

If you have a problem about people getting killed in wars, you should be arguing for ways to settle problems without war, instead of arguing that somebody is doing war wrong.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The Palestinians consider all of Israel to be stolen.

And the world only considers some lands Israeli citizens occupy as stolen.

That is the daily crime that goes on without resolution.

Even Israeli courts have ruled the settlements are a violation of international law.

Israel doesn't even offer up a defense for the theft.

It just takes what it wants and there is no force to stop it.

The Palestinians and their backers are who decides if the war continues. They consider it all stolen.

 

[tupac chopra]

That doesn't change the fact that the compensation is being based on the terrorism they committed.

they aren't terrorists...they are Freedom Fighters. Israel are "terrorists". You really need to get your terminology more accurate.

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If you have a problem about people getting killed in wars, you should be arguing for ways to settle problems without war, instead of arguing that somebody is doing war wrong.

Good post

 

[tupac chopra]

We pay them for being SEALs. We don't pay them for killing non-combatants.

No. You paid Chris Kyle to kill non combatants.

Our ROEs (Rules of Engagement) when the war kicked off were pretty simple: If you see anyone from about sixteen to sixty-five and they’re male, shoot ’em. Kill every male you see.

I guess he was thankful he had Jesus to save him

Honestly, I don’t know what will really happen on Judgment Day. But what I lean toward is that you know all of your sins, and God knows them all, and shame comes over you at the reality that He knows. I believe the fact that I’ve accepted Jesus as my savior will be my salvation. But in that backroom or whatever it is when God confronts me with my sins, I do not believe any of the kills I had during the war will be among them. Everyone I shot was evil. I had good cause on every shot. They all deserved to die.

He must, unless he was a sociopath, have been a tortured soul. But he most likely, just lacked a conscience.
http://www.hare.org/

 

[untermensche]

And the world only considers some lands Israeli citizens occupy as stolen.

That is the daily crime that goes on without resolution.

Even Israeli courts have ruled the settlements are a violation of international law.

Israel doesn't even offer up a defense for the theft.

It just takes what it wants and there is no force to stop it.

The Palestinians and their backers are who decides if the war continues. They consider it all stolen.

If Israel wanted peace the Palestinians couldn't stop them.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

they aren't terrorists...they are Freedom Fighters. Israel are "terrorists". You really need to get your terminology more accurate.

You're the one who doesn't understand the terminology.

Equating terrorists and freedom fighters is a standard dodge of those who don't want to admit they support terrorism. The distinction is normally clear: Look at their targets. Freedom fighters: legitimate military targets. Terrorists: Civilians.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Kill every male you see.

...

Everyone I shot was evil. I had good cause on every shot. They all deserved to die.

Too bad they didn't have Jesus, I guess...

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No. You paid Chris Kyle to kill non combatants.

Our ROEs (Rules of Engagement) when the war kicked off were pretty simple: If you see anyone from about sixteen to sixty-five and they’re male, shoot ’em. Kill every male you see.

I guess he was thankful he had Jesus to save him

Honestly, I don’t know what will really happen on Judgment Day. But what I lean toward is that you know all of your sins, and God knows them all, and shame comes over you at the reality that He knows. I believe the fact that I’ve accepted Jesus as my savior will be my salvation. But in that backroom or whatever it is when God confronts me with my sins, I do not believe any of the kills I had during the war will be among them. Everyone I shot was evil. I had good cause on every shot. They all deserved to die.

He must, unless he was a sociopath, have been a tortured soul. But he most likely, just lacked a conscience.
http://www.hare.org/

And where's your evidence he was killing noncombatants? Ignore his book, it obviously contained a lot of fiction and thus isn't evidence.

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The Palestinians and their backers are who decides if the war continues. They consider it all stolen.

If Israel wanted peace the Palestinians couldn't stop them.

What is this, the joke board?

How in the world could Israel enforce peace short of genocide?

 

[laughing dog]

How in the world could Israel enforce peace short of genocide?

Peace is not enforced, it is achieved. Once you understand that, you will understand the silliness of your question.

 

[ksen]

itt government pays its soldiers . . . loren incensed

 

[Malintent]

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pa-studies-details-of-each-terrorist-act-before-issuing-salaries/


What does it take to get some of you to admit the truth?

Evidence. What does it take you? Something else, like emotional impact?

I didn't read the article.. my comment was general.

 

[Bronzeage]

No. You paid Chris Kyle to kill non combatants.



I guess he was thankful he had Jesus to save him

Honestly, I don’t know what will really happen on Judgment Day. But what I lean toward is that you know all of your sins, and God knows them all, and shame comes over you at the reality that He knows. I believe the fact that I’ve accepted Jesus as my savior will be my salvation. But in that backroom or whatever it is when God confronts me with my sins, I do not believe any of the kills I had during the war will be among them. Everyone I shot was evil. I had good cause on every shot. They all deserved to die.

He must, unless he was a sociopath, have been a tortured soul. But he most likely, just lacked a conscience.
http://www.hare.org/

And where's your evidence he was killing noncombatants? Ignore his book, it obviously contained a lot of fiction and thus isn't evidence.

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The Palestinians and their backers are who decides if the war continues. They consider it all stolen.

If Israel wanted peace the Palestinians couldn't stop them.

What is this, the joke board?

How in the world could Israel enforce peace short of genocide?

The same way one would have sex in order to preserve virginity.

 

[tupac chopra]

How in the world could Israel enforce peace short of genocide?

Peace is not enforced, it is achieved. Once you understand that, you will understand the silliness of your question.

Peace in the hebrew bible is enforced. Peace in the hebrew bible means destroying and defeating your "enemies". Loren idea of peace comes from the Hebrew Bible

 

[Loren Pechtel]

How in the world could Israel enforce peace short of genocide?

Peace is not enforced, it is achieved. Once you understand that, you will understand the silliness of your question.

I understand that the left has a major delusion in this regard. That doesn't make it true. It only takes one side to make war. The only way the other side can avoid it is to capitulate--in this case, commit suicide.

That seems to be the endgame for the left--the death of Israel.