Okay, I'll say it, Psaki is hot!

[Rhea]

She was very popular in Russia during her work for Obama administration.

Why? What did she do that they liked? Or are we talking about looks?

 

[TomC]

She was very popular in Russia during her work for Obama administration.

Is this the same Psaki referred to by Business Insider?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...en-psaki-biden-wh-press-secretary-2020-12?amp

Russian state media is gleefully reviving its hatred for Biden's new press secretary Jen Psaki, whom they ruthlessly mocked for a series of slip-ups during the Obama administration

Honestly, I never heard of Psaki before the Biden administration, nor do I know how competent BusinessInsider is as a news source. But none of the articles I saw on Google seemed to agree with your post. Care to be a bit more transparent?
Tom

 

[Treedbear]

:crickets:

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The Dems had lots of options,

Name one.

Because I don't know of any.
Tom

Hickenlooper, Harris, Bennett, Booker. Beau Biden was supposed to be the President.

 

[TomC]

The Dems had lots of options,

Name one.

Because I don't know of any.
Tom

Hickenlooper, Harris, Bennett, Booker.

I'm not sure who any of these people are.

Possibly the Harris you're referring to is Kamala. You didn't say.

I might have stayed home. I didn't care for Joe Biden, I just voted against Trump. If the choices were Hickenlooper, who isn't important enough for me to recognize, and Trump, I probably would have.

The DNC can't just stick anybody out there and assume I'll vote for them. I don't like them much. They have to give me some reason to find their candidate better than whatever dumbass the Republicans are fielding.

Beau Biden was supposed to be the President.

Seriously? Beau Biden?

I can't tell if you're being viciously sarcastic or just ill-informed.
Tom

 

[Swammerdami]

Joe Manchin is the only vote that matters in the Senate; the other 99 might as well stay home no matter who the Democratic President is. (Much in the same way as John Roberts was the only Scotus vote that mattered before the death of RBG.)

I think the U.S. was lucky to end up with Biden. With someone like Sanders the Lie Machine would be screeching about socialism even louder than now, if that's possible. Someone like Inslee, Booker or Hickenlooper — let's call any of these Generic Good Guy/Gal or GGG — might be smarter and more vigorous than Biden, but lack the experience to get up to speed quite so quickly. However any GGG would remember which countries are our allies, and which our enemies. GGG would understand that resuming a pact with Iran is both smart and humane. GGG would want to help the lower and middle-class for a change, instead of bestowing yet more tax cuts on the super-rich.

So you can see why the following post makes me very sad.

... I might have stayed home. I didn't care for Joe Biden, I just voted against Trump. If the choices were Hickenlooper, who isn't important enough for me to recognize, and Trump, I probably would have.

The DNC can't just stick anybody out there and assume I'll vote for them. I don't like them much. They have to give me some reason to find their candidate better than whatever dumbass the Republicans are fielding....

Trump met privately with Vladimir Putin without any other American present (they relied solely on Putin's translator). This is something no Democrat would have done, but you don't care. You'd have stayed home (out of spite?) on Election Day had Inslee or Hickenlooper been the nominee because, although each was a U.S. Governor, they weren't "important" enough for you to have heard of them.

Trump appointed criminals to his Cabinet, made an illegal phone call to Ukraine for which he was impeached, ridiculed America's free press, told dozens of lies to the American people every day. But you'd have refused to vote against him if the alternative was GGG.

Trump bragged about "grabbing pussy" and consorted with Jeffrey Epstein. Who cares? Trump spent his White House days watching Fox and tweeting lies. Who cares if the alternative was just an "unimportant" GGG?

Trump transferred a trillion dollars from working Americans to the super-rich. Not enough money to concern Tom. Would $10 trillion have bothered you? $100 trillion? I'll guess even a Quadrillion wouldn't have bothered you: all these "zillion" numbers blur into a oneness.

It's not just Tom. I heard similar sentiments from some other seemingly sentient Americans.

I can't tell if you're being viciously sarcastic or just ill-informed.
Tom

I'd love to hear a punchline from you Tom; that yours was a parody you're polishing for publication on The Onion. But I don't think it is. I think someone is just very badly informed.

 

[barbos]

She was very popular in Russia during her work for Obama administration.

Is this the same Psaki referred to by Business Insider?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...en-psaki-biden-wh-press-secretary-2020-12?amp

Russian state media is gleefully reviving its hatred for Biden's new press secretary Jen Psaki, whom they ruthlessly mocked for a series of slip-ups during the Obama administration

Honestly, I never heard of Psaki before the Biden administration, nor do I know how competent BusinessInsider is as a news source. But none of the articles I saw on Google seemed to agree with your post. Care to be a bit more transparent?
Tom

They agree if you you realize that sarcasm was involved.

 

[TomC]

So you can see why the following post makes me very sad.

Let me repeat the context, since I haven't mentioned it in this thread.
I live in semi-rural southern Indiana, very nearly Pence's hometown. Trump's EC victory here was a foregone conclusion. Has been since Trump/Pence swept the GOP primary in 2016. I knew perfectly well that my vote didn't matter.
I'm very disappointed by the lack of foresight by the Democrats. Being unable to find anybody better than an old fossil like Biden gives me little reason to believe that the Democrats are really going to get much done, over time.
Tom

 

[Swammerdami]

So you can see why the following post makes me very sad.

Let me repeat the context, since I haven't mentioned it in this thread.
I live in semi-rural southern Indiana, very nearly Pence's hometown. Trump's EC victory here was a foregone conclusion. Has been since Trump/Pence swept the GOP primary in 2016. I knew perfectly well that my vote didn't matter.
I'm very disappointed by the lack of foresight by the Democrats. Being unable to find anybody better than an old fossil like Biden gives me little reason to believe that the Democrats are really going to get much done, over time.
Tom

Friend Tom; Will you swear solemnly now that, had you resided in Georgia and been forced to wait at a polling station for ten hours, without food or water, (that) you would have persisted even if the Ds were putting up GGG instead of Biden, in order to vote against the heinous Trump in a swing-state? (Well then, how about five hours and you remember to bring your own water bottle?)

If so, I will be delighted to tip my hat and retract any hint of aspersion.

(Does anyone agree that the extra 'that' I've reddened makes the sentence slightly clearer, albeit less grammatical? Perhaps parenthetical '(that)' as shown is best.)

 

[TomC]

So you can see why the following post makes me very sad.

Let me repeat the context, since I haven't mentioned it in this thread.
I live in semi-rural southern Indiana, very nearly Pence's hometown. Trump's EC victory here was a foregone conclusion. Has been since Trump/Pence swept the GOP primary in 2016. I knew perfectly well that my vote didn't matter.
I'm very disappointed by the lack of foresight by the Democrats. Being unable to find anybody better than an old fossil like Biden gives me little reason to believe that the Democrats are really going to get much done, over time.
Tom

Friend Tom; Will you swear solemnly now that, had you resided in Georgia and been forced to wait at a polling station for ten hours, without food or water, (that) you would have persisted even if the Ds were putting up GGG instead of Biden, in order to vote against the heinous Trump in a swing-state? (Well then, how about five hours and you remember to bring your own water bottle?)

If so, I will be delighted to tip my hat and retract any hint of aspersion.

(Does anyone agree that the extra 'that' I've reddened makes the sentence slightly clearer, albeit less grammatical? Perhaps parenthetical '(that)' as shown is best.)

Of course I won't swear to what I would do, or would have done, if my life and experience were quite different from what it demonstrably was.

Here's an example.
If I lived in a purplish state like Georgia, where my vote might count, I'd have a very different attitude.
Probably.

That's never happened, so I'm not entirely sure what I would do.

It's like asking me "Suppose the sky had always been orange, what would you do?".
I dunno, it's never happened is the only response I can think of.

That's honest.
Tom

 

[Worldtraveller]

Friend Tom; Will you swear solemnly now that, had you resided in Georgia and been forced to wait at a polling station for ten hours, without food or water, (that) you would have persisted even if the Ds were putting up GGG instead of Biden, in order to vote against the heinous Trump in a swing-state? (Well then, how about five hours and you remember to bring your own water bottle?)

If so, I will be delighted to tip my hat and retract any hint of aspersion.

(Does anyone agree that the extra 'that' I've reddened makes the sentence slightly clearer, albeit less grammatical? Perhaps parenthetical '(that)' as shown is best.)

Of course I won't swear to what I would do, or would have done, if my life and experience were quite different from what it demonstrably was.

Here's an example.
If I lived in a purplish state like Georgia, where my vote might count, I'd have a very different attitude.
Probably.

That's never happened, so I'm not entirely sure what I would do.

It's like asking me "Suppose the sky had always been orange, what would you do?".
I dunno, it's never happened is the only response I can think of.

That's honest.
Tom

Why not?

It's easy. If I lived in GA, all other things being relatively equal, I can say I would have unreservedly voted for Biden (or hypothetical GGG) in lieu of staying home.

Principles...pretty easy when you think about it.

 

[TomC]

Friend Tom; Will you swear solemnly now that, had you resided in Georgia and been forced to wait at a polling station for ten hours, without food or water, (that) you would have persisted even if the Ds were putting up GGG instead of Biden, in order to vote against the heinous Trump in a swing-state? (Well then, how about five hours and you remember to bring your own water bottle?)

If so, I will be delighted to tip my hat and retract any hint of aspersion.

(Does anyone agree that the extra 'that' I've reddened makes the sentence slightly clearer, albeit less grammatical? Perhaps parenthetical '(that)' as shown is best.)

Of course I won't swear to what I would do, or would have done, if my life and experience were quite different from what it demonstrably was.

Here's an example.
If I lived in a purplish state like Georgia, where my vote might count, I'd have a very different attitude.
Probably.

That's never happened, so I'm not entirely sure what I would do.

It's like asking me "Suppose the sky had always been orange, what would you do?".
I dunno, it's never happened is the only response I can think of.

That's honest.
Tom

Why not?

It's easy. If I lived in GA, all other things being relatively equal, I can say I would have unreservedly voted for Biden (or hypothetical GGG) in lieu of staying home.

Principles...pretty easy when you think about it.

I don't see any principles here.

I'll vote Democratic no matter what isn't a principle, in my opinion.
Tom

 

[Worldtraveller]

Why not?

It's easy. If I lived in GA, all other things being relatively equal, I can say I would have unreservedly voted for Biden (or hypothetical GGG) in lieu of staying home.

Principles...pretty easy when you think about it.

I don't see any principles here.

I'll vote Democratic no matter what isn't a principle, in my opinion.
Tom

You ain't so good at reading, are ya son?

 

[TomC]

Why not?

It's easy. If I lived in GA, all other things being relatively equal, I can say I would have unreservedly voted for Biden (or hypothetical GGG) in lieu of staying home.

Principles...pretty easy when you think about it.

I don't see any principles here.

I'll vote Democratic no matter what isn't a principle, in my opinion.
Tom

You ain't so good at reading, are ya son?

Yes I am. Which is why I can see your flaming strawman aways away.

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[Toni]

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[TomC]

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[Rhea]

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The goal at TFT is to promote meaningful discussion.
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[Elixir]

Some posters are very good at making every thread about them.
This thread is about Jen Psaki.
I can only say that she is very smart, very articulate, impressively well prepared and that all those attributes make her HOT (IMHO of course).

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Some more swooning with her execution in this press conference.

Fox News tries to set up that Biden should ask Trump for help... and Psaki shuts that down with the embroidered invitation comeback.

 

[Swammerdami]

Some more swooning with her execution in this press conference.

Fox News tries to set up that Biden should ask Trump for help... and Psaki shuts that down with the embroidered invitation comeback.

I'm afraid I'd be more explicit if I had her job:

President Jimmy Carter went on camera to support vaccination without any urging from the White House. The same is true for Presidents Clinton, Bush and Obama. They all behaved like big boys, acting without partisan motive to do what's best for the American people.

It sounds like you, Mr. FoxNews Reporter, are pointing out that the other ex-President is incapable of even that service, that he needs someone to lick his ass on camera and make it all about himself before he will condescend to telling his supporters to get vaccinated. Why don't you go on TV to perform that service, Mr. Reporter? To hear you prattle, it would be your dream come true.