Oklahoma fraternity being persecuted by PC Police

[Underseer]

Here is an example of a biased hit piece by the biased socialists at NPR unfairly bashing the patriotic Real Americans^TM at ΣAE at Oklahoma University:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...rom-two-oklahoma-students-in-racist-sae-video

Because of the horrible lies being spread by the Liberal Media Conspiracy, the university and the national fraternity disbanded the fraternity chapter. What's worse, is that none of this was even their fault. It turns out that the racist things they said in this video is not the fault of the people saying it, but the fault of some rap artist:



Wake up, sheeple! Can you not see that the white race is being persecuted and needs to be defended? First a vicious thug rapper forces innocent fraternity brothers to say racist things they don't really mean, then the biased Liberal Media Conspiracy spreads lies about them, then the latte-sipping intellectuals disband their fraternity.

All for the crime of being white! How is any of this fair? Why can't people see that this is a clear case of reverse racism? When will the horrific persecution of white people ever end? Are all those black savages ever going to stop playing the race card? Don't they realize that we live in a post-racial America in which racism doesn't exist anymore? (Except when it's racism against white people, then racism still exists.)



Attention: this entire post is sarcastic. I'm not actually being serious.

 

[Metaphor]

What purpose does saying "n-word" or typing "n*gg*r" (as I've seen elsewhere), serve?

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

The same purpose typing G-d serves?

 

[Rhea]

What purpose does saying "n-word" or typing "n*gg*r" (as I've seen elsewhere), serve?

I sense that they are just so uncomfortable with it, like a swear, that they feel they have to self censor. I think it's more like writing f*ck! than G-d.
I personally think journalism should include it. It was said, it was ugly and it can't be sugar-coated.

 

[NobleSavage]

When this leaked out the campus leaders and other frats / sororities just should have said the ΣAEs are way uncool and left it at that. Their ability to recruit pledges would have died. The ΣAEs would never get laid again and no one would show up to their beer parties.

 

[laughing dog]

Jon Stewart had a stinging analysis of the conservative's apologetics on this last night. For a group that always is telling the black community to take responsibility for their individual and collective behavior, the cognitive dissonance/hypocrisy of blaming "the magic of the hippity-hoppity" for this behavior is overwhelming. As Stewart rightly pointed out, rappers and hip hop artists did not invent the term nigger nor its nasty pejorative use. He also point outed their willingness to always claim these are isolated incidents that do not represent something more systemic.

 

[Artemus]

Jon Stewart had a stinging analysis of the conservative's apologetics on this last night. For a group that always is telling the black community to take responsibility for their individual and collective behavior, the cognitive dissonance/hypocrisy of blaming "the magic of the hippity-hoppity" for this behavior is overwhelming. As Stewart rightly pointed out, rappers and hip hop artists did not invent the term nigger nor its nasty pejorative use. He also point outed their willingness to always claim these are isolated incidents that do not represent something more systemic.

Rappers also do not talk about lynching people of other ethnic groups that I know of, either.

 

[NobleSavage]

Jon Stewart had a stinging analysis of the conservative's apologetics on this last night. For a group that always is telling the black community to take responsibility for their individual and collective behavior, the cognitive dissonance/hypocrisy of blaming "the magic of the hippity-hoppity" for this behavior is overwhelming. As Stewart rightly pointed out, rappers and hip hop artists did not invent the term nigger nor its nasty pejorative use. He also point outed their willingness to always claim these are isolated incidents that do not represent something more systemic.

Rappers also do not talk about lynching people of other ethnic groups that I know of, either.

I don't listen to rap and don't know shit about it. I goggled "racist rap lyrics", and the first page was a bunch of quotes, on a long page, on some racist white supremacist site. (Looking at the index page, I get the feeling they are just trying to make money off of white supremacists....)
http://www.tightrope.cc/rap.htm

The first 4 quotes:

We gonna order take out and when we see the driver
We gonna stick the 25 up in his face......
White boy in the wrong place at the right time
Soon as the car door open up he mine
We roll up quick and put the pistol to his nose
By the look on his face he probably shitted in his clothes
You know what this is, it's a stick up
Gimme the do' from your pickups
You ran into the wrong niggaz

Artist: DEAD PREZ
Song: HELL YEAH
Album: RBG: Revolutionary But Gangsta
Genre: Hip-hop
Label: SONY
Released: 2004

Kill the white people; we gonna make them hurt; kill the white people; but buy my record first; ha, ha, ha";
"Kill d'White People"; --Apache, Apache Ain't Shit, 1993, Tommy Boy Music, Time Warner, USA.

"Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long. . . . the white man is the devil. . . . the CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I'm recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant. . . . let's go and kill some rednecks. . . . Menace Clan ain't afraid. . . . I got the .380; the homies think I'm crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said: kill whitey all night long. . . . a nigga dumping on your white ass; fuck this rap shit, nigga, I'm gonna blast. . . . I beat a white boy to the motherfucking ground";
"Kill Whitey"; --Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of what was called Thorn EMI and now is called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.

"Devils fear this brand new shit. . . . I bleed them next time I see them. . . . I prey on these devils. . . . look what it has come to; who you gonna run to when we get to mobbing. . . . filling his body up with lead, yah; cracker in my way; slitting, slit his throat; watch his body shake; watch his body shake; that's how we do it in the motherfucking [San Francisco] Bay. . . . Sitting on the dock of the dirty with my AK";
"Heat-featuring Jet and Spice1"; --Paris, Unleashed, 1998, Unleashed Records, Whirling Records.

The money seems to be in stirring up racism, notice the corporations behind the "artists" (Assuming this info is not completely fabricated).

 

[AthenaAwakened]

Rappers also do not talk about lynching people of other ethnic groups that I know of, either.

I don't listen to rap and don't know shit about it. I goggled "racist rap lyrics", and the first page was a bunch of quotes, on a long page, on some racist white supremacist site. (Looking at the index page, I get the feeling they are just trying to make money off of white supremacists....)
http://www.tightrope.cc/rap.htm

The first 4 quotes:

We gonna order take out and when we see the driver
We gonna stick the 25 up in his face......
White boy in the wrong place at the right time
Soon as the car door open up he mine
We roll up quick and put the pistol to his nose
By the look on his face he probably shitted in his clothes
You know what this is, it's a stick up
Gimme the do' from your pickups
You ran into the wrong niggaz

Artist: DEAD PREZ
Song: HELL YEAH
Album: RBG: Revolutionary But Gangsta
Genre: Hip-hop
Label: SONY
Released: 2004

Kill the white people; we gonna make them hurt; kill the white people; but buy my record first; ha, ha, ha";
"Kill d'White People"; --Apache, Apache Ain't Shit, 1993, Tommy Boy Music, Time Warner, USA.

"Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long. . . . the white man is the devil. . . . the CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I'm recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant. . . . let's go and kill some rednecks. . . . Menace Clan ain't afraid. . . . I got the .380; the homies think I'm crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said: kill whitey all night long. . . . a nigga dumping on your white ass; fuck this rap shit, nigga, I'm gonna blast. . . . I beat a white boy to the motherfucking ground";
"Kill Whitey"; --Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of what was called Thorn EMI and now is called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.

"Devils fear this brand new shit. . . . I bleed them next time I see them. . . . I prey on these devils. . . . look what it has come to; who you gonna run to when we get to mobbing. . . . filling his body up with lead, yah; cracker in my way; slitting, slit his throat; watch his body shake; watch his body shake; that's how we do it in the motherfucking [San Francisco] Bay. . . . Sitting on the dock of the dirty with my AK";
"Heat-featuring Jet and Spice1"; --Paris, Unleashed, 1998, Unleashed Records, Whirling Records.

The money seems to be in stirring up racism, notice the corporations behind the "artists" (Assuming this info is not completely fabricated).

slavery, Jim Crow, immigration quotas, miscegenation laws, the KKK, all predate and had far more impact on racism in this country than rap. Things were well stirred up before rap came on the scene and, if we don't get serious about making a change, will be well stirred long after rap is gone.

And of course there is payoff in oppression. Don't stop with racism, pick an ism. And don't limit that payoff to money.

 

[Underseer]

Typically, Jon Stewart had a hilarious and insightful take on the whole thing.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/r...f-the-traveling-chants---to-catch-a-prejudice

 

[Underseer]

I don't listen to rap and don't know shit about it. I goggled "racist rap lyrics", and the first page was a bunch of quotes, on a long page, on some racist white supremacist site. (Looking at the index page, I get the feeling they are just trying to make money off of white supremacists....)
http://www.tightrope.cc/rap.htm

The first 4 quotes:

We gonna order take out and when we see the driver
We gonna stick the 25 up in his face......
White boy in the wrong place at the right time
Soon as the car door open up he mine
We roll up quick and put the pistol to his nose
By the look on his face he probably shitted in his clothes
You know what this is, it's a stick up
Gimme the do' from your pickups
You ran into the wrong niggaz

Artist: DEAD PREZ
Song: HELL YEAH
Album: RBG: Revolutionary But Gangsta
Genre: Hip-hop
Label: SONY
Released: 2004

Kill the white people; we gonna make them hurt; kill the white people; but buy my record first; ha, ha, ha";
"Kill d'White People"; --Apache, Apache Ain't Shit, 1993, Tommy Boy Music, Time Warner, USA.

"Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long. . . . the white man is the devil. . . . the CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I'm recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant. . . . let's go and kill some rednecks. . . . Menace Clan ain't afraid. . . . I got the .380; the homies think I'm crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said: kill whitey all night long. . . . a nigga dumping on your white ass; fuck this rap shit, nigga, I'm gonna blast. . . . I beat a white boy to the motherfucking ground";
"Kill Whitey"; --Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of what was called Thorn EMI and now is called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.

"Devils fear this brand new shit. . . . I bleed them next time I see them. . . . I prey on these devils. . . . look what it has come to; who you gonna run to when we get to mobbing. . . . filling his body up with lead, yah; cracker in my way; slitting, slit his throat; watch his body shake; watch his body shake; that's how we do it in the motherfucking [San Francisco] Bay. . . . Sitting on the dock of the dirty with my AK";
"Heat-featuring Jet and Spice1"; --Paris, Unleashed, 1998, Unleashed Records, Whirling Records.

The money seems to be in stirring up racism, notice the corporations behind the "artists" (Assuming this info is not completely fabricated).

slavery, Jim Crow, immigration quotas, miscegenation laws, the KKK, all predate and had far more impact on racism in this country than rap. Things were well stirred up before rap came on the scene and, if we don't get serious about making a change, will be well stirred long after rap is gone.

And of course there is payoff in oppression. Don't stop with racism, pick an ism. And don't limit that payoff to money.

Race card! Racialism! Reverse racism! Stop persecuting white people!!!!!!!

It's not the racists' fault. They're just a product of their environment. But when a black person does something bad, that proves that all black people are bad. Thank goodness we live in a "post racial America"! Praise white people! [/extreme sarcasm]

 

[untermensche]

What drunk people do with their peers is not necessarily a window into their soul.

If you don't have the freedom to offend you don't have freedom of speech.

 

[RavenSky]

What drunk people do with their peers is not necessarily a window into their soul.

If you don't have the freedom to offend you don't have freedom of speech.

They have the freedom to offend.

And their fraternity has the freedom to kick them out.
Their university has the freedom to expell them.
We have the freedom to ridicule them.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from social consequences for that speech. Let me know when they are arrested, prosecuted and convicted for their offensive speech, and then you will have a point.

 

[untermensche]

What drunk people do with their peers is not necessarily a window into their soul.

If you don't have the freedom to offend you don't have freedom of speech.

They have the freedom to offend.

And their fraternity has the freedom to kick them out.
Their university has the freedom to expell them.
We have the freedom to ridicule them.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from social consequences for that speech. Let me know when they are arrested, prosecuted and convicted for their offensive speech, and then you will have a point.

If you get punished just for saying things then you don't have freedom of speech.

And maybe that is what some people want.

I don't support them in their quest to limit speech.

 

[RavenSky]

They have the freedom to offend.

And their fraternity has the freedom to kick them out.
Their university has the freedom to expell them.
We have the freedom to ridicule them.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from social consequences for that speech. Let me know when they are arrested, prosecuted and convicted for their offensive speech, and then you will have a point.

If you get punished just for saying things then you don't have freedom of speech.

And maybe that is what some people want.

I don't support them in their quest to limit speech.

"punished"?

Were any of the students from the bus arrested, prosecuted and/or convicted? If not, then they were not "punished" for their speech.

 

[untermensche]

"punished"?

Were any of the students from the bus arrested, prosecuted and/or convicted? If not, then they were not "punished" for their speech.

2 of them were expelled from the University.

That is called punishment.

 

[credoconsolans]

"punished"?

Were any of the students from the bus arrested, prosecuted and/or convicted? If not, then they were not "punished" for their speech.

2 of them were expelled from the University.

That is called punishment.

They are not at their homes. They signed up to attend a college.

That college has a list of rules, regulations and standards that students agree to abide by when attending said college.

If a student violates said rules/regulations/standards, the college is well within their rights to expel them.

 

[untermensche]

2 of them were expelled from the University.

That is called punishment.

They are not at their homes. They signed up to attend a college.

That college has a list of rules, regulations and standards that students agree to abide by when attending said college.

If a student violates said rules/regulations/standards, the college is well within their rights to expel them.

They are within their legal rights.

Whether punishing people just for saying things is a right they should have is another matter.

I don't think they should have that legal right.

Some think their right to expel is a more important right than the freedom of speech.

 

[RavenSky]

"punished"?

Were any of the students from the bus arrested, prosecuted and/or convicted? If not, then they were not "punished" for their speech.

2 of them were expelled from the University.

That is called punishment.

That's NOT called a violation of their freedom of speech rights

- - - Updated - - -

Some think their right to expel is a more important right than the freedom of speech.

More accurately, you simply don't understand the actual definition and concept of "freedom of speech"

 

[Underseer]

What drunk people do with their peers is not necessarily a window into their soul.

If you don't have the freedom to offend you don't have freedom of speech.

I've been really drunk lots of times, and never once did I say anything like what was in that video. In fact, most of the times I've been drunk, I've been around a lot of other drunk people, and not once did anyone sing a song like this, nor do anything remotely like this.

Not only that, but I was in a fraternity. My frat brothers and I got very very drunk on many occasions, and not once did anything remotely like this happen. In fact if anyone suggested selecting members based on race, that person would have been kicked out. My chapter of my fraternity was pretty proud of the fact that we've been multiracial for a very long time. Such statements would have caused a lot of angry yelling.

Since you seem to think this is acceptable behavior for drunks, how likely are you to sing songs like this when you get drunk?