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On the Birthday (observed) of a Complicated Man

Politesse

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To my fellow Americans, Happy Washington's Birthday (Observed)!

By your patience, and in honor of one who in life tried that of many, I would like to offer some words for the occasion:

"Interwoven as is the love of liberty with every ligament of your hearts, no recommendation of mine is necessary to fortify or confirm the attachment ... Profoundly penetrated with this idea, I shall carry it with me to my grave, as a strong incitement to unceasing vows that Heaven may continue to you the choicest tokens of its beneficence; that your Union and brotherly affection may be perpetual; that the free Constitution, which is the work of your hands, may be sacredly maintained; that its administration in every department may be stamped with wisdom and virtue; that, in fine, the happiness of the people of these states, under the auspices of liberty, may be made complete by so careful a preservation and so prudent a use of this blessing as will acquire to them the glory of recommending it to the applause, the affection, and adoption of every nation which is yet a stranger to it."

~From the infamous Farewell Address, as he voluntarily stepped down from the position he received first by accolade and then by vote.

"The immediate objects are the total destruction and devastation of their settlements and the capture of as many prisoners of every age and sex as possible. It will be essential to ruin their crops now in the ground and prevent their planting more."

~From a 1779 letter to General Sullivan, ordering the genocide and punitive starvation of the Iroquois peoples for their partial loyalty to the British government.


In these two quotations, I see the footprint of the very best virtues and the most horrific weaknesses of General George Washington, our first American president, who is honored by the national holiday we are currently enjoying. As we enter a new time of struggle - when the Constitution itself and of the judicial system that defends it are questioned, when our leaders conspire openly with the principal enemies of global liberty and spurn our former allies as "weaklings", when the genius investor who changed the face of US automobile and battery production has been seduced away from his businesses by the call of unelected supragovernmental power, when the working people of this nation are being called to organize, to find our true communities, and to rethink to whom and what our fundamental loyalties lie, when brave Americans are already laying down their lives and freedoms in hope of defending the freedoms of those others who outlive them - I think it is prudent to remember the life of George Washington in its most full and complicated scope.

It would be bold indeed to deny that he was one of the most remarkable political and military leaders the British Empire ever produced, or that his actions and choices were uniquely influential on the shape and character of the young nation he helped to found. His legacy defies overly simplistic stereotypes of good and evil. In the vicissitudes of his life, we can see that the paradoxes of American culture - the beauty of our common culture counterposed with the cruelty of our generals, businessmen, and analysts - the ingenuity of our many unique arts and industries forevever hindered by our lazy readiness to let others do the work of building them for scant compensation - our love of wisdom and learning habitually undercut by our distrust of the learned - have all been with us from the very beginning. Indeed, from well before the beginning of this nation, for most of Washington's legacies were inheritances. Neither is this our first Constitutional crisis, our first would-be tyrant, the first time our technology advanced faster than the common sense of it, nor the first time that factional rivalries called the stability of our democratic government into question. On this natal anniversary of the man who through the changing fortunes of his life was called by his friends the "Sage of Mount Vernon" and by his human property "Master", to some remembered as the "American Cincinnatus" and to others the "Destroyer-of-Towns", I can only pray or hope that the virtues of our shared nation will bleed true from conflict once again, that by the hand of those most faithful to its most promises, the better angels of the great American Experiment may survive yet one more perilous storm.
 
There was always a fissure down the heart of the U.S. since its conception, the divide between the North and South with their economic and cultural differences. This fissure culminated in the Civil War, after which it seemed that the good guys had finally won. But really, the war just papered over the fissure, which is enduring and atavistic. Today the heirs of Jefferson Davis are in the saddle in Washington.

As to people like Washington himself, Jefferson, and other founders, they straddled the fissure, espousing liberty on one side of it and holding slaves on the other.

The question of whether the American Experiment ought to survive is an open one. Not if it is Trumplandia. Nothing is written in the stars that the U.S. has to continue as a single unitary nation.
 
Nothing is written in the stars that the U.S. has to continue as a single unitary nation.
If it has truly fallen to fascism, beyond ayny hope of recovery, disbanding it would become morally necessary for those who honor its values. But we aren't there yet, and surrendering over the first few shots is not in my nature.
 
Nothing is written in the stars that the U.S. has to continue as a single unitary nation.
If it has truly fallen to fascism, disbanding it would become necessary for those who honor its values. But we aren't there yet, and surrendering over the first few shots is not in my nature.

I don’t think the blue states separating from Trumpistan is surrendering. It is taking a positive step. I realize it is not likely to happen, but we shall see. Trump is establishing himself as above the law, as a king, with little seeming opposition at the moment, but there will be tipping points. The next few years are likely to be horrific, and who knows what will be left in 2028?
 
In truth I would support the secession of the Pacific strip in the strongest of terms, if it seemed that a desire for independence was the common conviction of my fellow statesmen. It is here, after all, where constitutional law, technology and learning, the power of the courts, and the distribution of powers are most vigorously defended. But it isn't a good idea to try and force such a division on a population incompletely convinced of its virtue, as Jefferson Davis discovered to his personal detriment. And were we to hold a referendum on independence today, I think the outcome of that referendum would be certain beyond doubt. Remain would carry the vote so utterly that the issue would not be raised again for decades.
 
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Remain would carry the vote so utterly that the issue would not be raised again for decades.

Decades? Let’s check back in four years and see what the sentiment is. I think Trump is attempting to continue, achieve and consolidate what he failed to do on Jan. 6., 2021 — overthrow the government and install himself as dictator. If he does, all bets are off, and another civil war is even possible and plausible.
 
In truth I would support the secession of the Pacific strip in the strongest of terms, if it seemed that a desire for independence was the common conviction of my fellow statesmen. It is here, after all, where constitutional law, technology and learning, the power of the courts, and the distribution of powers are most vigorously defended. But it isn't a good idea to try and force such a division on a population incompletely convinced of its virtue, as Jefferson Davis discovered to his personal detriment. And were we to hold a referendum on independence today, I think the outcome of that referendum would be certain beyond doubt. Remain would carry the vote so utterly that the issue would not be raised again for decades.
Brexit was once thought of as being a pipe dream and yet it happened in 2016. Well the referumdum was 23/06/2016 and it became offical on 31/01/2020.
I would ensure that voting in may such referunda is compulsory to made sure that all are heard and that the stay at homes do not get a nasty surprise.
 
Nothing is written in the stars that the U.S. has to continue as a single unitary nation.
If it has truly fallen to fascism, beyond ayny hope of recovery, disbanding it would become morally necessary for those who honor its values. But we aren't there yet, and surrendering over the first few shots is not in my nature.
Whether the nation will be broken up would depend on the differences in political approach of the allied forces that defeat her.

I could envisage an ever increasing fortification of the border between the Chinese Sector and the British and EU Sectors, culminating in a wall built to separate the non-Chinese Sector from the other Sectors of Washington DC. Of course, the Chinese would then try to drive out the other allies, but be stymied by a dramatic airlift of supplies...

Nobody will be asking the Nazis or their enablers for their opinions.
 
Simply put, our nation exists as it does today, in a large part because Washington did something remarkable for his time, he stepped down from substantial power. A tradition that would stay in check until the idiot in charge now.
 
we aren't there yet
How about now?
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How about now?

Is there any way to know for sure when we're "there"?
I suspect that different individuals have different notions as where that "line" is. You know, I think, where the line was for Washington: taxation without representation, and when those taxes were questioned, the use of military force to enforce by blood what could not be resolved by disputation.
 
Yes, now.
Did you notice that he has given away Ukraine without even a whimper? He is destroying the US government and has already gotten inflation ramped up, to eviscerate the middle class that voted for him. Predictably, inflation is back and the apricot is blaming Biden. The MAGAts will go along with that fantasy like the mindless lemmings they are.
Next up? Purge the military of non-loyalists, then put it on the streets of Murka to make sure the libs are kept under control.
 
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Trump has surrendered to a hostile foreign power. We have not surrendered to Trump. Damn near everything he has done so far has been stopped, paused, stymied, or mitigated. He may be winning, but he has not yet won.
 
Trump has surrendered to a hostile foreign power. We have not surrendered to Trump. Damn near everything he has done so far has been stopped, paused, stymied, or mitigated. He may be winning, but he has not yet won.
It's not like we have anything left to surrender, other than our voices.
He's working on that.
 
The perfect Democrat! Surrender just in case a challenge comes, then blame your failure on a systemic or conspiratorial injustice rather than your own lack of a spine. If you don't like what they're selling then stand up and fight it, for god's sake! We're all a part of the system his regime is mining for wealth and power, it cannot function without our participation. Our skills, knowledge, and labor are what they are mining. Deny them those unearned prizes, and their whole house of cards collapses.
 
stand up and fight it, for god's sake!
I'm still standing. I'm not interested in fighting a losing battle alone though.
We're all a part of the system his regime is mining for wealth and power, it cannot function without our participation.
I suggest you send the IRS a note this year, letting them know you won't be contributing to Trump's effort to destroy the nation.
That would be my choice if I could persuade the rest of the country to go along with it.
 
Nothing is written in the stars that the U.S. has to continue as a single unitary nation.
If it has truly fallen to fascism, disbanding it would become necessary for those who honor its values. But we aren't there yet, and surrendering over the first few shots is not in my nature.

I don’t think the blue states separating from Trumpistan is surrendering. It is taking a positive step. I realize it is not likely to happen, but we shall see. Trump is establishing himself as above the law, as a king, with little seeming opposition at the moment, but there will be tipping points. The next few years are likely to be horrific, and who knows what will be left in 2028?
Having lived in what were considered both conservative and liberal states. I don't think there is such thing as a red or blue state, with a few possible exceptions. When I lived in Texas in the early 70s, it was quite blue, as was Florida for a number of years. NC was a mix and so was SC. Georgia was fairly blue when we moved here, then it turned red and now it's purple, with two Democratic Senators and a Republican governor. Virginia was a mix too. NJ has had both Democratic and Republican governors too. Indiana is red, but it's largest city, Indianapolis is bright blue. The divide is more one of rural v. urban with a mix in the suburbs, so the idea that we can separate based on red and blue seems a bit irrational from my perspective. Sadly, a lot of younger people are becoming more conservative while older people are still split.

Plus, even if it the so called blue states did divide from the so called red states, how do you unite the states on the East coast with the ones or two on the West coast? Perhaps each state should be its own country, not that it will happen. The demographics of states always changes over time. Plus there is even some division in the urban and rural areas. My city is very divided. It usually goes red, but a lot of that has to do with a lot of poor people who never bother to vote. At least that is the impression I get from having conversations with older adults who always vote while their grown children never or rarely ever do. It's complicated. Perhaps if everyone had voted in the last election, we wouldn't be facing what we are now, but too many traditional Democrats didn't even bother to vote.

Perhaps it will take another civil war to keep us from going totally autocratic, not necessarily divided by states but by people who are interested in saving what we have left of democracy verses those who want to be part of an autocracy. Anyway, that's my two cents off the top of my head.
 
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