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Pelosi: Impeachment Is Moving Forward

Not following, not chasing, the system it utterly corrupt, I have no interest in choosing the lessor of the evils. Ride that.

Sometimes we get no choice. It is half a loaf, or it's a wet cow flop like Trump. Getting into a snit because there is no perfect candidate on the ballot and staying home or wasting a vote on some third party to "show em your dislike!" gets us horrors like Trump.

Can we learn our lesson from 2016?

How did voter shaming work then? When did pointing out reality morph into "getting into a snit"? Things is what they is pard. If you choose to cooperate and participate, that choice is yours to make, cheers. This shithole society did not just slip off the rails with Don, Don is merely a symptom of what we all sat around and watched go down over time, just 'cause we went along with the slide and settled for what the power structure vomited up as "choice".

Not all of us feel like we are living in a "shithole" society. We live in a less than perfect society. Please tell us which ultra large countries are perfect societies.

Maybe you're the one with the problem. Maybe your life is shitty. I'm sorry if that's the case, but there is no utopia. Deal with it, or you will always be unhappy.

I'm middle class, and I've always lived below my means, and I have many poor friends, young and old, of different races. Guess what? All but one of them are happy and optimistic. One is raising her four great grandchildren, but she rarely complains. The one who is miserable suffers from depression and anxiety and has failed at keeping friends. Her son has all but abandoned her. That's shitty. But, her problems aren't related to government. Without our shitty government, she wouldn't even be getting her modest SS payment. Without our less than perfect government, she wouldn't have Medicaid to pay for her drugs and healthcare. Without government, she wouldn't have shit.

Social isolation is probably the biggest reason that people are unhappy. That and a genetic predisposition to depression. Right now, we need to concentrate on getting rid of the most destructive person whoever tried to run the country. I won't shame you for not voting, but imo, voting is what gives a citizen the right to complain, and the right to ask for change. Whining on the internet gets you nothing.
 
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Imagine having this level of disdain for people less fortunate than you, who will literally live or die depending on who is elected, while framing them, and not yourself, as the group that needs to stop whining and fall in line

How did voter shaming work then? When did pointing out reality morph into "getting into a snit"? Things is what they is pard. If you choose to cooperate and participate, that choice is yours to make, cheers. This shithole society did not just slip off the rails with Don, Don is merely a symptom of what we all sat around and watched go down over time, just 'cause we went along with the slide and settled for what the power structure vomited up as "choice".

Not all of us feel like we are living in a "shithole" society. We live in a less than perfect society. Please tell us which ultra large countries are perfect societies.

Maybe you're the one with the problem. Maybe your life is shitty. I'm sorry if that's the case, but there is no utopia. Deal with it, or you will always be unhappy.

I'm middle class, and I've always lived below my means, and I have many poor friends, young and old, of different races. Guess what? All but one of them are happy and optimistic. One is raising her four great grandchildren, but she rarely complains. The one who is miserable suffers from depression and anxiety and has failed at keeping friends. Her son has all but abandoned her. That's shitty. But, her problems aren't related to government. Without our shitty government, she wouldn't even be getting her modest SS payment. Without our less than perfect government, she wouldn't have Medicaid to pay for her drugs and healthcare. Without government, she wouldn't have shit.

Social isolation is probably. Right now, we need to concentrate on getting rid of the most destructive person whoever tried to run the country. I won't shame you for not voting, but imo, voting is what gives a citizen the right to complain, and the right to ask for change. Whining on the internet gets you nothing.
 
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I watch all the network Sunday morning news programs and I think Chris Wallace is the best, most incisive, and least likely to be moved off topic.
 
I don't personally believe the impeachment will go past the senate, no matter what the investigation unearths.
It doesn't have to go past the Senate. The Senate is what convicts or not. And McConnell just stated that they would have to try him if the House votes to impeach...
 
Yes the transcript shows Trump never said "do x and I'll give you y." All he said was "could you please do x?" Asking a question is not illegal. LOL these unmedicated lefties!

1) In a situation like this the offer of y (the aid) is implicit. Not spelling it out is irrelevant.

2) In this case his "could you please do x?" is illegal by itself, even without a quid pro quo. He's soliciting a campaign contribution from a foreign power. Go directly to jail, do not pass go. Disconnect the wire from Faux Noise to your brain!

Did you notice the gun in my hand?
Do you have a wallet in your pocket?
Would you like to make it home to your family alive?

Just asking some questions.... nothing wrong with that.
 
I don't personally believe the impeachment will go past the senate, no matter what the investigation unearths.
It doesn't have to go past the Senate. The Senate is what convicts or not. And McConnell just stated that they would have to try him if the House votes to impeach...

They don't have the votes to change the rules and the rules state the trial must happen.
 
I don't personally believe the impeachment will go past the senate, no matter what the investigation unearths.
It doesn't have to go past the Senate. The Senate is what convicts or not. And McConnell just stated that they would have to try him if the House votes to impeach...

They don't have the votes to change the rules and the rules state the trial must happen.

It will get past the House but unless there are some major revelations that threaten the reelection chances of hardcore GOP Trumpsuckers there will not be a conviction. Reelection, not loyalty to party, not ethics, is the operative dynamic.
 
How did voter shaming work then? When did pointing out reality morph into "getting into a snit"? Things is what they is pard. If you choose to cooperate and participate, that choice is yours to make, cheers. This shithole society did not just slip off the rails with Don, Don is merely a symptom of what we all sat around and watched go down over time, just 'cause we went along with the slide and settled for what the power structure vomited up as "choice".

Not all of us feel like we are living in a "shithole" society. We live in a less than perfect society. Please tell us which ultra large countries are perfect societies.

Maybe you're the one with the problem. Maybe your life is shitty. I'm sorry if that's the case, but there is no utopia. Deal with it, or you will always be unhappy.

I'm middle class, and I've always lived below my means, and I have many poor friends, young and old, of different races. Guess what? All but one of them are happy and optimistic. One is raising her four great grandchildren, but she rarely complains. The one who is miserable suffers from depression and anxiety and has failed at keeping friends. Her son has all but abandoned her. That's shitty. But, her problems aren't related to government. Without our shitty government, she wouldn't even be getting her modest SS payment. Without our less than perfect government, she wouldn't have Medicaid to pay for her drugs and healthcare. Without government, she wouldn't have shit.

Social isolation is probably the biggest reason that people are unhappy. That and a genetic predisposition to depression. Right now, we need to concentrate on getting rid of the most destructive person whoever tried to run the country. I won't shame you for not voting, but imo, voting is what gives a citizen the right to complain, and the right to ask for change. Whining on the internet gets you nothing.

But whining about what someone else posts on the internet does get one something? Who knew?

Thank you so much for your anecdote, may your one friend find his or her way to your halfassed close-enough-for-me utopia. So then everything's cool right? We're cool with endless illegal wars of aggression and global occupation and all the blow-back that comes in tow, while the funding of such economically cannibalizes our own society. We're all happy in a well-no-one's-perfect kinda way, with our concentration camps on the border. We're numbed to kids being gunned down in schools, thoughts and prayers ya'll. We're ok with living in a militarized police state in which everyone is under constant surveillance, and the police gun down unarmed nonthreatening citizens in the streets. We're ok and happy with ostensible representative govt participating, in our name, in the Israeli genocide in Gaza and in the Saudi genocide in Yemen; which we all participate in funding. We are all happy enough, so it really doesn't matter if public water supply contamination across the US is commonplace, most especially if we think it's just in Flint, MI and "certain" neighborhoods where lead in the water and retardation in the next generation won't bear down upon us directly.

All of this was in place before Don, Don is merely a symptom and the next demagogue may be worse; may be adept. I would suggest that "other" party consider its candidate and its social/societal responsibilities more seriously this election cycle. Perhaps it should win voters over rather than lecture them on who is most evil.

Voting gives one a right to complain? Fuck that, get off with that nonsense, attempting to herd voters with psychobabble slogans has worn thin, the ecosystem is at risk while we mindlessly believe business as per usual is the only way to see the world. Don is a dick and a sorryassed human being, he is not the first to occupy that office. Maybe it's the system stupid.

Yes of course, the role of the citizen is to quietly shuffle along and not make any waves, the system is beyond reproach. Speaking of happy, where does america fall in in the World Happiness Report which comes out annually? Hmmmm? And was there any drop in our ranking in those reports as a result of Don coming into office?

By the way shoog, who is against SS or Medicaid?

Remember my fellow fweedumb loving americans, if you question the system or the power structure, you are the one with the problem, there is something wrong with you, now get out there and don't feel socially isolated, get in line with the rest of the aristocracy's subjects and shut up.
 
I don't personally believe the impeachment will go past the senate, no matter what the investigation unearths.
It doesn't have to go past the Senate. The Senate is what convicts or not. And McConnell just stated that they would have to try him if the House votes to impeach...

Ya. They'll try him... after throwing every piece of evidence and testimony out because it is partisan... Partisan as defined as "in opposition to anything Trump has ever said or done". So, lacking any evidence at all, it will last 1 second in Senate, and they will talk about all the investigations into the investigators as often as possible.
The House, if intelligent, will never hand it over to the Senate to bless Trump as the victim of Democratic harassment of the president.
 
I don't personally believe the impeachment will go past the senate, no matter what the investigation unearths.
It doesn't have to go past the Senate. The Senate is what convicts or not. And McConnell just stated that they would have to try him if the House votes to impeach...

Ya. They'll try him... after throwing every piece of evidence and testimony out because it is partisan... Partisan as defined as "in opposition to anything Trump has ever said or done". So, lacking any evidence at all, it will last 1 second in Senate, and they will talk about all the investigations into the investigators as often as possible.
The House, if intelligent, will never hand it over to the Senate to bless Trump as the victim of Democratic harassment of the president.

What has been particularly amusing is witnessing the about flip on what a president should or should not be legally entitled to execute; Obama years versus Trump years. Ya could come down with whiplash just watching these folks pivot.
 
Ya. They'll try him... after throwing every piece of evidence and testimony out because it is partisan... Partisan as defined as "in opposition to anything Trump has ever said or done". So, lacking any evidence at all, it will last 1 second in Senate, and they will talk about all the investigations into the investigators as often as possible.
The House, if intelligent, will never hand it over to the Senate to bless Trump as the victim of Democratic harassment of the president.

What has been particularly amusing is witnessing the about flip on what a president should or should not be legally entitled to execute; Obama years versus Trump years. Ya could come down with whiplash just watching these folks pivot.

I absolutely agree... and why there aren't hours upon hours of short video clips side by side of the same person saying directly opposing things, plastered all over the internet, cable, and networks, is rather suspicious... I sometimes think there is only one party fucking with us all... just a scripted reality-like show to give the appearance of a political system existing at all.
 
How did voter shaming work then? When did pointing out reality morph into "getting into a snit"? Things is what they is pard. If you choose to cooperate and participate, that choice is yours to make, cheers. This shithole society did not just slip off the rails with Don, Don is merely a symptom of what we all sat around and watched go down over time, just 'cause we went along with the slide and settled for what the power structure vomited up as "choice".

Not all of us feel like we are living in a "shithole" society. We live in a less than perfect society. Please tell us which ultra large countries are perfect societies.

Maybe you're the one with the problem. Maybe your life is shitty. I'm sorry if that's the case, but there is no utopia. Deal with it, or you will always be unhappy.

I'm middle class, and I've always lived below my means, and I have many poor friends, young and old, of different races. Guess what? All but one of them are happy and optimistic. One is raising her four great grandchildren, but she rarely complains. The one who is miserable suffers from depression and anxiety and has failed at keeping friends. Her son has all but abandoned her. That's shitty. But, her problems aren't related to government. Without our shitty government, she wouldn't even be getting her modest SS payment. Without our less than perfect government, she wouldn't have Medicaid to pay for her drugs and healthcare. Without government, she wouldn't have shit.

Social isolation is probably the biggest reason that people are unhappy. That and a genetic predisposition to depression. Right now, we need to concentrate on getting rid of the most destructive person whoever tried to run the country. I won't shame you for not voting, but imo, voting is what gives a citizen the right to complain, and the right to ask for change. Whining on the internet gets you nothing.

But whining about what someone else posts on the internet does get one something? Who knew?

Thank you so much for your anecdote, may your one friend find his or her way to your halfassed close-enough-for-me utopia. So then everything's cool right? We're cool with endless illegal wars of aggression and global occupation and all the blow-back that comes in tow, while the funding of such economically cannibalizes our own society. We're all happy in a well-no-one's-perfect kinda way, with our concentration camps on the border. We're numbed to kids being gunned down in schools, thoughts and prayers ya'll. We're ok with living in a militarized police state in which everyone is under constant surveillance, and the police gun down unarmed nonthreatening citizens in the streets. We're ok and happy with ostensible representative govt participating, in our name, in the Israeli genocide in Gaza and in the Saudi genocide in Yemen; which we all participate in funding. We are all happy enough, so it really doesn't matter if public water supply contamination across the US is commonplace, most especially if we think it's just in Flint, MI and "certain" neighborhoods where lead in the water and retardation in the next generation won't bear down upon us directly.

All of this was in place before Don, Don is merely a symptom and the next demagogue may be worse; may be adept. I would suggest that "other" party consider its candidate and its social/societal responsibilities more seriously this election cycle. Perhaps it should win voters over rather than lecture them on who is most evil.

Voting gives one a right to complain? Fuck that, get off with that nonsense, attempting to herd voters with psychobabble slogans has worn thin, the ecosystem is at risk while we mindlessly believe business as per usual is the only way to see the world. Don is a dick and a sorryassed human being, he is not the first to occupy that office. Maybe it's the system stupid.

Yes of course, the role of the citizen is to quietly shuffle along and not make any waves, the system is beyond reproach. Speaking of happy, where does america fall in in the World Happiness Report which comes out annually? Hmmmm? And was there any drop in our ranking in those reports as a result of Don coming into office?

By the way shoog, who is against SS or Medicaid?

Remember my fellow fweedumb loving americans, if you question the system or the power structure, you are the one with the problem, there is something wrong with you, now get out there and don't feel socially isolated, get in line with the rest of the aristocracy's subjects and shut up.

Jtfc. Another freshman.
 
Ya. They'll try him... after throwing every piece of evidence and testimony out because it is partisan... Partisan as defined as "in opposition to anything Trump has ever said or done". So, lacking any evidence at all, it will last 1 second in Senate, and they will talk about all the investigations into the investigators as often as possible.
The House, if intelligent, will never hand it over to the Senate to bless Trump as the victim of Democratic harassment of the president.

What has been particularly amusing is witnessing the about flip on what a president should or should not be legally entitled to execute; Obama years versus Trump years. Ya could come down with whiplash just watching these folks pivot.

I absolutely agree... and why there aren't hours upon hours of short video clips side by side of the same person saying directly opposing things, plastered all over the internet, cable, and networks, is rather suspicious... I sometimes think there is only one party fucking with us all... just a scripted reality-like show to give the appearance of a political system existing at all.

These "two" parties are funded by the same donor class; it's a good cop/bad cop type charade. Spectacle and illusion rule the day, one scandal to the next lickitty split, get the next one up and running afore the last has cooled, pile 'em up and keep on moving. The aristocracy's divide-n-conquer shtick goes back to Bacon's Rebellion.

When I look at this graph, know what I see?

EPI_productivity_compensation.png

Bipartisanship. In societal wealth redistribution and concentration over time.
 
President Ellipsis said:
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Yup. He posted a county by county map of his victory in 2016...

...wait for it...

...wait for it...

Nope, this isn't the 2016 election map. It appears to be a doctored version of it. Some blue counties appear to be a purplish color. I noticed Lake County in Minnesota was off... and that county hasn't been won in a while by the Republicans... a long while.

So why did Trump post an image of a doctored electoral map? Who the fuck knows. What I didn't know was the Clinton won counties in Alaska.

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Jtfc. Another freshman.
400+ posts in 7 days?! Persona also shifted a bit to the anarchy side of things.
 
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But whining about what someone else posts on the internet does get one something? Who knew?

Thank you so much for your anecdote, may your one friend find his or her way to your halfassed close-enough-for-me utopia. So then everything's cool right? We're cool with endless illegal wars of aggression and global occupation and all the blow-back that comes in tow, while the funding of such economically cannibalizes our own society. We're all happy in a well-no-one's-perfect kinda way, with our concentration camps on the border. We're numbed to kids being gunned down in schools, thoughts and prayers ya'll. We're ok with living in a militarized police state in which everyone is under constant surveillance, and the police gun down unarmed nonthreatening citizens in the streets. We're ok and happy with ostensible representative govt participating, in our name, in the Israeli genocide in Gaza and in the Saudi genocide in Yemen; which we all participate in funding. We are all happy enough, so it really doesn't matter if public water supply contamination across the US is commonplace, most especially if we think it's just in Flint, MI and "certain" neighborhoods where lead in the water and retardation in the next generation won't bear down upon us directly.

All of this was in place before Don, Don is merely a symptom and the next demagogue may be worse; may be adept. I would suggest that "other" party consider its candidate and its social/societal responsibilities more seriously this election cycle. Perhaps it should win voters over rather than lecture them on who is most evil.

Voting gives one a right to complain? Fuck that, get off with that nonsense, attempting to herd voters with psychobabble slogans has worn thin, the ecosystem is at risk while we mindlessly believe business as per usual is the only way to see the world. Don is a dick and a sorryassed human being, he is not the first to occupy that office. Maybe it's the system stupid.

Yes of course, the role of the citizen is to quietly shuffle along and not make any waves, the system is beyond reproach. Speaking of happy, where does america fall in in the World Happiness Report which comes out annually? Hmmmm? And was there any drop in our ranking in those reports as a result of Don coming into office?

By the way shoog, who is against SS or Medicaid?

Remember my fellow fweedumb loving americans, if you question the system or the power structure, you are the one with the problem, there is something wrong with you, now get out there and don't feel socially isolated, get in line with the rest of the aristocracy's subjects and shut up.

Jtfc. Another freshman.

Feel free to pick it apart love.
 
How did voter shaming work then? When did pointing out reality morph into "getting into a snit"? Things is what they is pard. If you choose to cooperate and participate, that choice is yours to make, cheers. This shithole society did not just slip off the rails with Don, Don is merely a symptom of what we all sat around and watched go down over time, just 'cause we went along with the slide and settled for what the power structure vomited up as "choice".

Not all of us feel like we are living in a "shithole" society. We live in a less than perfect society. Please tell us which ultra large countries are perfect societies.

Maybe you're the one with the problem. Maybe your life is shitty. I'm sorry if that's the case, but there is no utopia. Deal with it, or you will always be unhappy.

I'm middle class, and I've always lived below my means, and I have many poor friends, young and old, of different races. Guess what? All but one of them are happy and optimistic. One is raising her four great grandchildren, but she rarely complains. The one who is miserable suffers from depression and anxiety and has failed at keeping friends. Her son has all but abandoned her. That's shitty. But, her problems aren't related to government. Without our shitty government, she wouldn't even be getting her modest SS payment. Without our less than perfect government, she wouldn't have Medicaid to pay for her drugs and healthcare. Without government, she wouldn't have shit.

Social isolation is probably the biggest reason that people are unhappy. That and a genetic predisposition to depression. Right now, we need to concentrate on getting rid of the most destructive person whoever tried to run the country. I won't shame you for not voting, but imo, voting is what gives a citizen the right to complain, and the right to ask for change. Whining on the internet gets you nothing.

But whining about what someone else posts on the internet does get one something? Who knew?

Thank you so much for your anecdote, may your one friend find his or her way to your halfassed close-enough-for-me utopia. So then everything's cool right? We're cool with endless illegal wars of aggression and global occupation and all the blow-back that comes in tow, while the funding of such economically cannibalizes our own society. We're all happy in a well-no-one's-perfect kinda way, with our concentration camps on the border. We're numbed to kids being gunned down in schools, thoughts and prayers ya'll. We're ok with living in a militarized police state in which everyone is under constant surveillance, and the police gun down unarmed nonthreatening citizens in the streets. We're ok and happy with ostensible representative govt participating, in our name, in the Israeli genocide in Gaza and in the Saudi genocide in Yemen; which we all participate in funding. We are all happy enough, so it really doesn't matter if public water supply contamination across the US is commonplace, most especially if we think it's just in Flint, MI and "certain" neighborhoods where lead in the water and retardation in the next generation won't bear down upon us directly.

All of this was in place before Don, Don is merely a symptom and the next demagogue may be worse; may be adept. I would suggest that "other" party consider its candidate and its social/societal responsibilities more seriously this election cycle. Perhaps it should win voters over rather than lecture them on who is most evil.

Voting gives one a right to complain? Fuck that, get off with that nonsense, attempting to herd voters with psychobabble slogans has worn thin, the ecosystem is at risk while we mindlessly believe business as per usual is the only way to see the world. Don is a dick and a sorryassed human being, he is not the first to occupy that office. Maybe it's the system stupid.

Yes of course, the role of the citizen is to quietly shuffle along and not make any waves, the system is beyond reproach. Speaking of happy, where does america fall in in the World Happiness Report which comes out annually? Hmmmm? And was there any drop in our ranking in those reports as a result of Don coming into office?

By the way shoog, who is against SS or Medicaid?

Remember my fellow fweedumb loving americans, if you question the system or the power structure, you are the one with the problem, there is something wrong with you, now get out there and don't feel socially isolated, get in line with the rest of the aristocracy's subjects and shut up.

You and PH have totally misunderstood my post. The point is that you referred to the country as a shit hole country, but in reality, while we certainly should extend the safety net, we do have some programs that currently help people like the woman I referred to earlier. Her problem is that she pisses off so many friends and family members that she has lost just about all of her friends. And, if she was in one of the other large countries, she would be living on the street. Yes, the US, like most countries needs to improve. I think anyone with half a brain realizes that.

I've never said that I don't want poor people to have more than they do, but you and PH apparently like to read things into what was said. I would like to see the minimum wage greatly increased, and I think SS payments should be much higher. But, I've advocated for those things my entire life. My point was that even poor people can be happy if they have good social support systems. But, you and PH decided to mistakenly interpret what I wrote, and judge me as the greedy bad guy, when in fact, I spent almost my entire career advocating for poor people, helping connect them to social programs that would enable them to live more comfortable lives. Despite being under paid and often over worked, it was rewarding to do what I could for those who I served. Btw, I've given money to many of my poor friends, and I'm not wealthy.



I never said that I blindly loved America. I said it was much better than other large countries and no country is perfect. I've not saluted the flag or sang or stood for the anthem since I was 16. I actively protested many things in the 60s, including one of our worst wars. 58000 of my peers needlessly died in that war, as well as countless number of innocent civilians in Viet Nam. Your hatred and prejudice are sad. Nobody despises war more than I do. Nobody hates the income inequality any more than I do. But, I am a realist and I understand that in all of our relationships in our short lives, we must compromise. That's just the way of the world. Sorry if you haven't learned that lesson yet.

So, how many wars have you protested? What have you done to make someone else's life a little better? How many times have you helped a poor friend or given money to some poor homeless person? You seem to think that anyone who disagrees with you is part of the problem. Maybe if you got off of your high horse and tried to find some commonalities with people who don't see think exactly like you do, you'd have a better life.

You still haven't told us where this utopian society that you seem to think exists is. Let's see. Could it be China? Oh wait, China uses surveillance 24 hours a day so all of the citizens can be watched like "Big Brother is watching over you." Nah. It can't be China. How about India? Oh wait. Have you ever seen the air in Mumbai? Poor people in India don't even have indoor plumbing and income inequality is far worse than it is here. What about Russia? A country where communism didn't really work out very well, did it. Oh and Putin. Can't be Russia. Sure, there are some very small countries that do a much better job than we do in caring for their citizens. But, imo, you can't compare a smaller country to a huge highly diverse country and expect the two to be the same. You criticize but I've yet to see you come up with a single idea that might make things a little better.

I'm not whining by the way. Nice projection there.

Anyway, I see no reason to respond to any more of your posts. I do hope you will find something that makes you less cynical and more understanding of people who don't agree with you.
 
But whining about what someone else posts on the internet does get one something? Who knew?

Thank you so much for your anecdote, may your one friend find his or her way to your halfassed close-enough-for-me utopia. So then everything's cool right? We're cool with endless illegal wars of aggression and global occupation and all the blow-back that comes in tow, while the funding of such economically cannibalizes our own society. We're all happy in a well-no-one's-perfect kinda way, with our concentration camps on the border. We're numbed to kids being gunned down in schools, thoughts and prayers ya'll. We're ok with living in a militarized police state in which everyone is under constant surveillance, and the police gun down unarmed nonthreatening citizens in the streets. We're ok and happy with ostensible representative govt participating, in our name, in the Israeli genocide in Gaza and in the Saudi genocide in Yemen; which we all participate in funding. We are all happy enough, so it really doesn't matter if public water supply contamination across the US is commonplace, most especially if we think it's just in Flint, MI and "certain" neighborhoods where lead in the water and retardation in the next generation won't bear down upon us directly.

All of this was in place before Don, Don is merely a symptom and the next demagogue may be worse; may be adept. I would suggest that "other" party consider its candidate and its social/societal responsibilities more seriously this election cycle. Perhaps it should win voters over rather than lecture them on who is most evil.

Voting gives one a right to complain? Fuck that, get off with that nonsense, attempting to herd voters with psychobabble slogans has worn thin, the ecosystem is at risk while we mindlessly believe business as per usual is the only way to see the world. Don is a dick and a sorryassed human being, he is not the first to occupy that office. Maybe it's the system stupid.

Yes of course, the role of the citizen is to quietly shuffle along and not make any waves, the system is beyond reproach. Speaking of happy, where does america fall in in the World Happiness Report which comes out annually? Hmmmm? And was there any drop in our ranking in those reports as a result of Don coming into office?

By the way shoog, who is against SS or Medicaid?

Remember my fellow fweedumb loving americans, if you question the system or the power structure, you are the one with the problem, there is something wrong with you, now get out there and don't feel socially isolated, get in line with the rest of the aristocracy's subjects and shut up.

You and PH have totally misunderstood my post. The point is that you referred to the country as a shit hole country, but in reality, while we certainly should extend the safety net, we do have some programs that currently help people like the woman I referred to earlier. Her problem is that she pisses off so many friends and family members that she has lost just about all of her friends. And, if she was in one of the other large countries, she would be living on the street. Yes, the US, like most countries needs to improve. I think anyone with half a brain realizes that.

I've never said that I don't want poor people to have more than they do, but you and PH apparently like to read things into what was said. I would like to see the minimum wage greatly increased, and I think SS payments should be much higher. But, I've advocated for those things my entire life. My point was that even poor people can be happy if they have good social support systems. But, you and PH decided to mistakenly interpret what I wrote, and judge me as the greedy bad guy, when in fact, I spent almost my entire career advocating for poor people, helping connect them to social programs that would enable them to live more comfortable lives. Despite being under paid and often over worked, it was rewarding to do what I could for those who I served. Btw, I've given money to many of my poor friends, and I'm not wealthy.



I never said that I blindly loved America. I said it was much better than other large countries and no country is perfect. I've not saluted the flag or sang or stood for the anthem since I was 16. I actively protested many things in the 60s, including one of our worst wars. 58000 of my peers needlessly died. Your hatred and prejudice are sad. Nobody despises war more than I do. Nobody hates the income inequality any more than I do. But, I am a realist and I understand that in all of our relationships in our short lives, we must compromise. That's just the way of the world. Sorry if you haven't learned that lesson yet.

So, how many wars have you protested? What have you done to make someone else's life a little better? How many times have you helped a poor friend or given money to some poor homeless person? You seem to think that anyone who disagrees with you is part of the problem. Maybe if you got off of your high horse and tried to find some commonalities with people who don't see think exactly like you do, you'd have a better life.

You still haven't told us where this utopian society that you seem to think exists is. Let's see. Could it be China? Oh wait, China uses surveillance 24 hours a day so all of the citizens can be watched like "Big Brother is watching over you." Nah. It can't be China. How about India? Oh wait. Have you ever seen the air in Mumbai? Poor people in India don't even have indoor plumbing and income inequality is far worse than it is here. What about Russia? A country where communism didn't really work out very well, did it. Oh and Putin. Can't be Russia. Sure, there are some very small countries that do a much better job than we do in caring for their citizens. But, imo, you can't compare a smaller country to a huge highly diverse country and expect the two to be the same. You criticize but I've yet to see you come up with a single idea that might make things a little better.

I'm not whining by the way. Nice projection there.

Anyway, I see no reason to respond to any more of your posts. I do hope you will find something that makes you less cynical and more understanding of people who don't agree with you.

Relax pard, the "shithole nation" bit was sarcasm and a call back to Trump's idiocy. Of course YOU'RE not whining, only others with a different view are. Realism = cynicism? Here we go again, color inside the lines the system allows, we're all in reality subjects of the empire.

Refused to go to Nam and protested everything since, I do not answer to you, you really don't get fweedumb do you.

So don't respond, k? I'm ok with that, cheers, go pout somewhere else.
 
Relax pard, the "shithole nation" bit was sarcasm and a call back to Trump's idiocy. Of course YOU'RE not whining, only others with a different view are. Realism = cynicism? Here we go again, color inside the lines the system allows, we're all in reality subjects of the empire.

Refused to go to Nam and protested everything since, I do not answer to you, you really don't get fweedumb do you.

So don't respond, k? I'm ok with that, cheers, go pout somewhere else.
*sigh*
 
Relax pard, the "shithole nation" bit was sarcasm and a call back to Trump's idiocy. Of course YOU'RE not whining, only others with a different view are. Realism = cynicism? Here we go again, color inside the lines the system allows, we're all in reality subjects of the empire.

Refused to go to Nam and protested everything since, I do not answer to you, you really don't get fweedumb do you.

So don't respond, k? I'm ok with that, cheers, go pout somewhere else.
*sigh*

*yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn*
 
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