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Pelosi: Impeachment Is Moving Forward

Do you mean that Trump should be impeached for making such a crazy statement? I mean did you read the article that you linked? Most of the money to Iran was their own money that was held back after the US decided to not deliver the jets. The rest was from commercial banking transactions from China and Europe that were owed to Iran! How can that be considered US tax dollars?

That money was withheld for good reason as there were sanctions on the rouge regime to behave. Since the lifting of those sanctions, has this changed anything? Plus Obama was anxious to conclude a disastrous deal knowing full well that that money would be used for terrorist activity. As this link makes perfectly clear. Obama lied to Congress as well as to Americans! Surely an impeachment offence!

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-iran-terrorism/

But it was not US tax payer dollars! Don't you realize how that is such a lie? This is just another reason why the US must stop being the world's police officer. If conservative Australians want to punish Iran for some reason, do it yourself.

It's only a lie if leftists say it. Duh! Also, and I know this is going to be a shock, angelo's link of shitty ads and right wing vitriol did not prove that Obama gave money to Iran for purpose of terrorism, or that Iran used that money to fund terrorism, or Obama lying to Congress.

Anyone else notice how adamant Angelo is against giving money to Iran because it funds terrorism (because, you know reasons), yet is conspicuously silent about Trump ignoring Congress and giving Saudi Arabia billions of dollars in arms? You know, Saudi Arabia; the Mecca of Islamic extremism.
 
Do you mean that Trump should be impeached for making such a crazy statement? I mean did you read the article that you linked? Most of the money to Iran was their own money that was held back after the US decided to not deliver the jets. The rest was from commercial banking transactions from China and Europe that were owed to Iran! How can that be considered US tax dollars?

That money was withheld for good reason as there were sanctions on the rouge regime to behave. Since the lifting of those sanctions, has this changed anything? Plus Obama was anxious to conclude a disastrous deal knowing full well that that money would be used for terrorist activity. As this link makes perfectly clear. Obama lied to Congress as well as to Americans! Surely an impeachment offence!

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-iran-terrorism/

But it was not US tax payer dollars! Don't you realize how that is such a lie? This is just another reason why the US must stop being the world's police officer. If conservative Australians want to punish Iran for some reason, do it yourself.

What, the US stop being the " worlds policeman" to be replaced by China? Which I don't doubt will eventually eventuate!
 
But it was not US tax payer dollars! Don't you realize how that is such a lie? This is just another reason why the US must stop being the world's police officer. If conservative Australians want to punish Iran for some reason, do it yourself.

It's only a lie if leftists say it. Duh! Also, and I know this is going to be a shock, angelo's link of shitty ads and right wing vitriol did not prove that Obama gave money to Iran for purpose of terrorism, or that Iran used that money to fund terrorism, or Obama lying to Congress.

Anyone else notice how adamant Angelo is against giving money to Iran because it funds terrorism (because, you know reasons), yet is conspicuously silent about Trump ignoring Congress and giving Saudi Arabia billions of dollars in arms? You know, Saudi Arabia; the Mecca of Islamic extremism.

Saudi Arabia is paying big money for those American arms. If the US were to stop supplying SA with arms, where do you think they would turn to? Does Russia ring any bells?
 
Anyone else see the hypocrisy here? Of course it's not the Trump doing it but a Dem front runner, so it's okay!

https://gellerreport.com/2019/12/quid-pro-joe-lawless.html/

LAWLESS DEMS: Quid-Pro-Joe Biden Vows Not to Comply with Senate Subpoena in Impeachment Trial

Who's saying it's okay? The Left is railing against him over his stupidity.

Two things. First Geller doesn't report she cuts and pastes while finding pretexts to use the most biased language available to tar political opponents of her prejudices.

Second the left of which you speak is noting more than parrots of Geller's right wing friends on the left doing the same things she does. That is to lie, lie, lie, inflame, inflame, inflame, post falsehood after falsehood with as many inflammatory modifiers as possible into the gossipo'sphere

So now that the two of you have put out your greasy shit copied from the pages of political hacks who cut and paste unverified and untrue accusations from their "I hate you" blog sites you can sit back with no responsibility faces all a'wagging and say: "here are elements of my spleen."

forty pinocchios.

How 'bout a few bits of, eh, what do they call it, oh yeah, evidence.

But Naw that would take time for research to find something that can be traced back to proper investigation.

Now look at what You've done. You've gone out and posted shit and gotten flamed for so doing. Congratulations.

novin' on.
 
]So now that the two of you have put out your greasy shit copied from the pages of political hacks who cut and paste unverified and untrue accusations from their "I hate you" blog sites you can sit back with no responsibility faces all a'wagging and say: "here are elements of my spleen."

Well, I am Lord High speaker of
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, so I felt it important to clarify that no one is giving Biden a pass and no hypocrisy exists.

How 'bout a few bits of, eh, what do they call it, oh yeah, evidence.

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Ask and ye shall receive:
Joe Biden clarifies senate subpoena remarks

Joe Biden has clarified his assertion that he'll defy any subpoena to testify in Donald Trump's impeachment trial in the US Senate, saying he has always complied with lawful orders.

*snip*

In a tweet on Saturday, Biden said: "I want to clarify something I said yesterday. In my 40 years in public life, I have always complied with a lawful order and in my eight years as VP, my office - unlike Donald Trump and Mike Pence - cooperated with legitimate congressional oversight requests."

Yet he followed with another tweet suggesting that he would consider any subpoena from the Senate Republicans for the impeachment trial to be illegitimate.

My $0.02 is that this is another case of Bidenism. Which is like a Bushism only more tired and less original. He's still a fucking idiot for saying it though.
 
Anyone else see the hypocrisy here? Of course it's not the Trump doing it but a Dem front runner, so it's okay!

So you agree that it's not OK for anyone in the Trump administration to ignore Congressional subpoenas. Good, I'm glad you've made that clear.
 
I really don't blame Biden for saying that he would ignore a subpoena regarding Trump's impeachment. The Trumpers have already set a precedent for ignoring subpoenas and if the impeachment goes to a trial in the Senate, it should be about what Trump did and not about any crazy conspiracy theories regarding Hunter or Joe Biden. Why is it okay for Republicans to refuse to respond to subpoenas that actually are related to an investigation, but it's wrong for Biden to say he would resist a subpoena that is related to another crazy far right conspiracy theory? Trump has done everything in his power to implicate Biden in something that was legal, while Trump gets away with all kinds of corrupt behavior and lies on a daily basis.

Let's see if the trial happens and witnesses are even called before we pile on Biden. Biden's son did something that was on the sleazy side but it was legal and Hunter Biden isn't the first relative to take advantage of a family member's position in government. Compared to what Trump's kids have done, Hunter's sleaze looks pretty harmless. Trump is just trying to make the trial about the Bidens and not about him, and now some Democrats are criticizing Biden instead of the person who is doing great harm to the country. Biden has nothing to do with the impeachment!
 
It's not about "ignoring" a subpoena. He's absolutely right in that there is no legitimate reason to send him one. It is literally a witch hunt intended to distract from the actual witch. The GOP strategy is to simply accuse everyone else of Trump's crimes. It's what every Christian is programmed to do from birth; blame others for their own crimes.

They know it's not legitimate and they know he correctly would not and should not acknowledge it, which is why they keep threatening him with it. If he succumbs to it, then he is made the circus. If he doesn't, then he is made the excuse. It is pure strategy and as such additional betrayal of the fact that they are simply criminal pieces of shit who all deserve to be imprisoned.

Which of course are the exact words Trump has used pre-emptively against Dems, so that the fucking morons in the cornfields all think black is white and jack off over whataboutism.

Which takes us all right back to Putin pulling the strings of the whole lot. What's so disturbing, however, is that they all know Putin is the one pulling these strings, but they don't care. They're all making bank on it and that's all they give a shit about, so that's how democracy dies. It seems to inevitably transitions into oligarchy.

Though, of course, in America we've always been a "republic," which is essentially an oligarchy, so it's really about all the masks coming off. Or, in our case, hoods.
 
It's not about "ignoring" a subpoena. He's absolutely right in that there is no legitimate reason to send him one. It is literally a witch hunt intended to distract from the actual witch. The GOP strategy is to simply accuse everyone else of Trump's crimes.

Which is what Biden should have said instead of acting like an obstinate tool, then doubled down saying he would think about it.
 
Biden is talking shit. Any subpoena from the impeachment trial would be coming from the Chief Justice, not some committee. Assuming Roberts and McConnell agree to call him, he would come.

Another Biden gaffe IMO.
 
First to Paloo, er, Patooka All subpoenas are subject to review. So your cite in spot on. Biden has the right to challenge such based on lack of foundation (illegitimate) and many other presumptive rights of citizens.

Yes, Horatio Parker, that includes those from Chief Justice of USSC.

Prejudging them is a bit undiplomatic though. "You pissed on me I can piss higher" is a bullshit tactic.

As with all things related to Trump it is best to not give the narcissist-in-chief easy targets that even he can hit. Why take care to make MiorityPOTUS look credible. Everybody knows he can shovel shit. We don't need easy targets for him to do such.

Aside. I've seen too many assertions without merit get through the courts since we began to treat Terrorism differently. Better that we return to the rule of evidence - you know that thing that scientists pride themselves with using - before we become an actual from my mind fart to fact nation based on "I sed it diden I".

Reminds me of my maor profs major prof at U. Wisconsin who famously said "Culture? We've got culture coming out the ass." Old FSU statement down the nose about Midwest culture
 
Biden is talking shit. Any subpoena from the impeachment trial would be coming from the Chief Justice, not some committee. Assuming Roberts and McConnell agree to call him, he would come.

Another Biden gaffe IMO.
It'd be something if it went there, seeing this is about Trump's impeachment... and Tu Quoque isn't an actual viable legal defense.
 
It's not about "ignoring" a subpoena. He's absolutely right in that there is no legitimate reason to send him one. It is literally a witch hunt intended to distract from the actual witch. The GOP strategy is to simply accuse everyone else of Trump's crimes.

Which is what Biden should have said instead of acting like an obstinate tool, then doubled down saying he would think about it.

The GOP would love nothing more than to make this about Biden, and yes, Biden missed an opportunity to call them out on this crap.
 
But it was not US tax payer dollars! Don't you realize how that is such a lie? This is just another reason why the US must stop being the world's police officer. If conservative Australians want to punish Iran for some reason, do it yourself.

It's only a lie if leftists say it. Duh! Also, and I know this is going to be a shock, angelo's link of shitty ads and right wing vitriol did not prove that Obama gave money to Iran for purpose of terrorism, or that Iran used that money to fund terrorism, or Obama lying to Congress.

Anyone else notice how adamant Angelo is against giving money to Iran because it funds terrorism (because, you know reasons), yet is conspicuously silent about Trump ignoring Congress and giving Saudi Arabia billions of dollars in arms? You know, Saudi Arabia; the Mecca of Islamic extremism.

You know who is funding the Islamic terrorists, right? Leftists. They don't want American companies getting rich off of oil because "Screw corporations!" so we need to get our oil from the Islamic world. We give them money, they use it for terrorism and threaten us. Thank you, leftists.

I don't expect you guys to learn, though.
 
Well, I am Lord High speaker of
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, so I felt it important to clarify that no one is giving Biden a pass and no hypocrisy exists.



Ask and ye shall receive:
Joe Biden clarifies senate subpoena remarks

Joe Biden has clarified his assertion that he'll defy any subpoena to testify in Donald Trump's impeachment trial in the US Senate, saying he has always complied with lawful orders.

*snip*

In a tweet on Saturday, Biden said: "I want to clarify something I said yesterday. In my 40 years in public life, I have always complied with a lawful order and in my eight years as VP, my office - unlike Donald Trump and Mike Pence - cooperated with legitimate congressional oversight requests."

Yet he followed with another tweet suggesting that he would consider any subpoena from the Senate Republicans for the impeachment trial to be illegitimate.

My $0.02 is that this is another case of Bidenism. Which is like a Bushism only more tired and less original. He's still a fucking idiot for saying it though.

And you think this idiot, as you rightly call him, would make a better President than the Trump?
 
But it was not US tax payer dollars! Don't you realize how that is such a lie? This is just another reason why the US must stop being the world's police officer. If conservative Australians want to punish Iran for some reason, do it yourself.

It's only a lie if leftists say it. Duh! Also, and I know this is going to be a shock, angelo's link of shitty ads and right wing vitriol did not prove that Obama gave money to Iran for purpose of terrorism, or that Iran used that money to fund terrorism, or Obama lying to Congress.

Anyone else notice how adamant Angelo is against giving money to Iran because it funds terrorism (because, you know reasons), yet is conspicuously silent about Trump ignoring Congress and giving Saudi Arabia billions of dollars in arms? You know, Saudi Arabia; the Mecca of Islamic extremism.

You know who is funding the Islamic terrorists, right? Leftists. They don't want American companies getting rich off of oil because "Screw corporations!" so we need to get our oil from the Islamic world. We give them money, they use it for terrorism and threaten us. Thank you, leftists.

I don't expect you guys to learn, though.

That terrible! I'm shocked. I mean really flabbersmacked. So leftists are conspiring to make American companies "non-rich" and this is forcing us to get our oil from the Islamic world. That's dastardly! But you do have a link that supports this assertion?
 
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