Police Misconduct Catch All Thread

[robnisch]

That's why I voted against legalizing it when it came up in Alaska.

That makes no sense to me.

The best way to avoid bureaucratic hassling is to take the government out of the process. In other words, legalize.

How hard is that to understand?
Tom

Ha Ha. That's not how it works in the real world. The government controls the whole system. Taxes, licenses, zoning, quality, etc.
I knew it would happen in Alaska, and it did. The only way the repugs would let it even get on the ballot is if the state would get their cut.

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[bilby]

Good grief it was an obvious joke about officers who think they are above the law.

Joking is futile with many of our members, who would be classified by DSM-5 as kleptomaniacs.*










* They always take things, literally

 

[bilby]

That's why I voted against legalizing it when it came up in Alaska.

That makes no sense to me.

The best way to avoid bureaucratic hassling is to take the government out of the process. In other words, legalize.

How hard is that to understand?
Tom

The only way to take government out of any process is to do it extra-legally.

Legalization of anything is literally putting the government in control of that thing.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Looks like the officer thought his badge exempted him from the laws of physics.

I don't think so. Rather, I think the officer believed the whole thing was a cover, that it was really a grow. He didn't respect the MRI because he didn't think it was real.

This looks more like a job for tax division or the control board not the SWAT team.
Stupid!

Tax division?

The cops thought it was an illegal grow operation. That's not something you send the tax guys to.

I have a big problem with high power use being considered adequate evidence of a grow operation, but I don't see cops thinking the laws of physics don't apply.

My point was that people that grow illegally are probably just trying to avoid the bureaucratic hassle involved in the licensing process.
And the taxes.
I don't know about CA, but in Alaska you need a Lawyer to navigate the paper work.
It is probably the same in most states.
That's why I voted against legalizing it when it came up in Alaska.

A lot of the growers really don't like the legal system. It does things like prohibit improper pesticides and other such safety issues.

 

[robnisch]

Looks like the officer thought his badge exempted him from the laws of physics.

I don't think so. Rather, I think the officer believed the whole thing was a cover, that it was really a grow. He didn't respect the MRI because he didn't think it was real.

This looks more like a job for tax division or the control board not the SWAT team.
Stupid!

Tax division?

The cops thought it was an illegal grow operation. That's not something you send the tax guys to.

I have a big problem with high power use being considered adequate evidence of a grow operation, but I don't see cops thinking the laws of physics don't apply.

My point was that people that grow illegally are probably just trying to avoid the bureaucratic hassle involved in the licensing process.
And the taxes.
I don't know about CA, but in Alaska you need a Lawyer to navigate the paper work.
It is probably the same in most states.
That's why I voted against legalizing it when it came up in Alaska.

A lot of the growers really don't like the legal system. It does things like prohibit improper pesticides and other such safety issues.

I have changed my mind about the gov control of weed. It is safe and I know what I am getting. And it is cheap.

 

[ZiprHead]

I don't know about paperwork for retail pot stores but to grow your own requires no paperwork here.

 

[Gospel]

I don't know about paperwork for retail pot stores but to grow your own requires no paperwork here.

Must be nice living in Jamaica.

Edit: Cannabis remains illegal under federal law in the United States.

 

[ZiprHead]

I don't know about paperwork for retail pot stores but to grow your own requires no paperwork here.

Must be nice living in Jamaica.

Edit: Cannabis remains illegal under federal law in the United States.

I know that.

My brother grows it. My sister in law (the bitch that cheated on my brother in law) grows it. Both my wife's bosses grow it.

There's two pot retail stores within a mile of me. At least a dozen in our little city alone. I'm sure they all know pot is illegal at the federal level.

 

[Gospel]

Once again, marijuana legalization is up for a vote in Florida, though I suspect it may not pass. While debates continue over whether it's a gateway drug, its potential health and safety impacts, or its influence on crime, the real priority, in my opinion, should be the tax revenue it can bring. Like cigarette taxes, these funds could support programs to discourage marijuana use, bolster healthcare resources (considering marijuana likely isn’t a major strain on our healthcare system), and even fund law enforcement (misconduct not included ) efforts to crack down on illegal sales.

But that's just my dumb opinion.

 

[ZiprHead]

Once again, marijuana legalization is up for a vote in Florida, though I suspect it may not pass. While debates continue over whether it's a gateway drug, its potential health and safety impacts, or its influence on crime, the real priority, in my opinion, should be the tax revenue it can bring. Like cigarette taxes, these funds could support programs to discourage marijuana use, bolster healthcare resources (considering marijuana likely isn’t a major strain on our healthcare system), and even fund law enforcement (misconduct not included ) efforts to crack down on illegal sales.

But that's just my dumb opinion.

Randi Rhodes actually voted against it even though she's a Florida pot smoker. She said marijuana would be monopolized by a single entity and it still doesn't allow her to grow her own, which she does.

 

[TomC]

Randi Rhodes actually voted against it even though she's a Florida pot smoker. She said marijuana would be monopolized by a single entity and it still doesn't allow her to grow her own, which she does.

So, she voted against legalization because she wouldn't be allowed to grow her own

Which she does...?
Tom

 

[Elixir]

Randi Rhodes actually voted against it even though she's a Florida pot smoker. She said marijuana would be monopolized by a single entity and it still doesn't allow her to grow her own, which she does.

So, she voted against legalization because she wouldn't be allowed to grow her own

Which she does...?
Tom

Problem?
I’ve been growing my own for decades, only relatively recently legally.

 

[TomC]

Randi Rhodes actually voted against it even though she's a Florida pot smoker. She said marijuana would be monopolized by a single entity and it still doesn't allow her to grow her own, which she does.

So, she voted against legalization because she wouldn't be allowed to grow her own

Which she does...?
Tom

Problem?
I’ve been growing my own for decades, only relatively recently legally.

Perhaps I misunderstood.
I thought that Zip was referring to a satirist who was growing their own and voted against legalization because then she wouldn't be allowed to grow her own.

Are we talking about the famous satirist that I am familiar with?
Tom

 

[ZiprHead]

Randi Rhodes actually voted against it even though she's a Florida pot smoker. She said marijuana would be monopolized by a single entity and it still doesn't allow her to grow her own, which she does.

So, she voted against legalization because she wouldn't be allowed to grow her own

Which she does...?
Tom

She was more concerned about the monopolization aspect.

 

[ZiprHead]

Randi Rhodes actually voted against it even though she's a Florida pot smoker. She said marijuana would be monopolized by a single entity and it still doesn't allow her to grow her own, which she does.

So, she voted against legalization because she wouldn't be allowed to grow her own

Which she does...?
Tom

Problem?
I’ve been growing my own for decades, only relatively recently legally.

Perhaps I misunderstood.
I thought that Zip was referring to a satirist who was growing their own and voted against legalization because then she wouldn't be allowed to grow her own.

Are we talking about the famous satirist that I am familiar with?
Tom

Growing her own would still be illegal. That's part of the monopolization. Not allowed to compete with the big guy.

 

[Gospel]

Once again, marijuana legalization is up for a vote in Florida, though I suspect it may not pass. While debates continue over whether it's a gateway drug, its potential health and safety impacts, or its influence on crime, the real priority, in my opinion, should be the tax revenue it can bring. Like cigarette taxes, these funds could support programs to discourage marijuana use, bolster healthcare resources (considering marijuana likely isn’t a major strain on our healthcare system), and even fund law enforcement (misconduct not included ) efforts to crack down on illegal sales.

But that's just my dumb opinion.

Randi Rhodes actually voted against it even though she's a Florida pot smoker. She said marijuana would be monopolized by a single entity and it still doesn't allow her to grow her own, which she does.

Strange, their doesn't seem to be a ban on growing orange trees on my property. My only concern is Citrus greening.

 

[Gospel]

Top brass out at Kissimmee PD after State Attorney questions 'truthfulness'

The Oct. 21 letter from the State Attorney's Office makes 11 allegations of misconduct that included officers lying under oath.

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Grand jury condemns Kissimmee Police Department's 'culture of cover up'

The city of Kissimmee responded to the damning results of a grand jury investigation, saying "significant shortcomings" will be addressed.

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Florida - Kissimmee Police Department

A recent investigation by the State Attorney's Office and a grand jury report revealed significant issues within the Kissimmee Police Department (KPD). The reports highlighted a "culture of cover-up" and cited numerous instances of officer misconduct following an incident on April 22, 2023, involving former officer Andrew Baseggio. Baseggio was accused of excessive force against Sean Kastner, including using a Taser and knee strikes, followed by falsified reports and attempts to cover up his actions. This led to charges including felony battery, witness tampering, and misconduct.

The State Attorney's findings questioned the integrity and truthfulness of several KPD officers, prompting resignations from Police Chief Betty Holland and Deputy Chief Camille Alicea. Other officers were placed on administrative duties or removed from their roles. The reports detailed that internal practices, insufficient accountability, and a failure to report misconduct were systemic issues within the department.

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Planning a family trip to Disneyland for the 2024 holiday season? A word of advice: stay within Disney property. Trusting the Kissimmee Police Department right now? Not the best idea.

 

[ZiprHead]

Yeah? Wait 'til Trump give police complete immunity.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Randi Rhodes actually voted against it even though she's a Florida pot smoker. She said marijuana would be monopolized by a single entity and it still doesn't allow her to grow her own, which she does.

So, she voted against legalization because she wouldn't be allowed to grow her own

Which she does...?
Tom

Problem?
I’ve been growing my own for decades, only relatively recently legally.

Perhaps I misunderstood.
I thought that Zip was referring to a satirist who was growing their own and voted against legalization because then she wouldn't be allowed to grow her own.

Are we talking about the famous satirist that I am familiar with?
Tom

Growing her own would still be illegal. That's part of the monopolization. Not allowed to compete with the big guy.

But if you're growing your own for private consumption then how would the legalization change anything? If you're growing it for sale and distribution then I guess having it be legal and the market flooded with corporate product would indeed be an issue.

 

[Gospel]

I think the book Randi abides by is called voting against your own interests 101.