# President-elect Joe Biden's Cabinet and Staff Nominees

#### Derec

##### Contributor
That you fail to address the matter of profiteers acting as arbitors of "reasonable use",
I do not think that government should not enact and enforce reasonable regulation about things like pollution and reclamation.
I think that government should not oppose development just because of ideological opposition and/or because some Indian tribes complain.

LMAO! Intellectial bankruptcy is on your side. I have provided facts and figures backing up my position, while you only have inane attacks.

Maybe try sources for your 4-color graphs on copper other than Copper Development Association Inc.
What's wrong with the Copper Development Association? Do you have any reason to doubt the facts presented in the graphic?
Are you doubting that electric cars need more copper (and other metals) than ICE cars?
And the graphic was only about cars. But if you have a network of chargers, those chargers need more copper, as do transmission lines supplying them. Decarbonizing the economy means copperizing it!

#### Derec

##### Contributor
Perhaps about other subjects, but there is no evidence to date you know much, if anything, of substance about Ms. Haaland.
What do you think I am missing? I know she attended the idiotic anti-DAPL protest. She opposes Keystone XL explicitly. She opposes I know she opposes I know she is a cosponsor of AOC's GND which is radically anti-pipeline, anti-oil and gas and anti-nuclear. But despite the fact that decarbonizing the economy requires a lot of copper and other metals, she opposes copper mines such as the one proposed at Oak Flat.
What more do I need to know about her?

I did not bring him up., ltpetrich did in post 176 to which I replied and then you replied to my post. Try to pay attention,
I must have missed that. In any case, he is quite irrelevant here.

You take your beliefe that she explicitly opposed several pipelines (although you don’t appear to have any evidence as the reasons) add in your lack of knowledge about her beliefs on pipelines in general and opposition to fracking and support of GDN to manufacture your claim she is opposed to all pipelines, Wow.
It's called inductive reasoning.

You repeat the same stupid straw man.
It's not a straw man. You kept repeating that Zinke is a "white man" to the extent that you started to sound like AIDS Skrillex.
to which you have been completely silent.
They don't strike me as things important enough to start threads. But if you feel that strongly about them, why didn't you start threads?

#### fromderinside

##### Mazzie Daius
Maybe try sources for your 4-color graphs on copper other than Copper Development Association Inc.
What's wrong with the Copper Development Association? Do you have any reason to doubt the facts presented in the graphic?
Are you doubting that electric cars need more copper (and other metals) than ICE cars?
And the graphic was only about cars. But if you have a network of chargers, those chargers need more copper, as do transmission lines supplying them. Decarbonizing the economy means copperizing it!

You've obviously never been to Montana. Big mining, especially copper, ruined great farmlands east of Missoula, destroyed a city, Butte, destroyed a mountain and left a hazardous lake pit and about 60 square miles of hazardous slag. All achieved by Anaconda one of the charter members of that f..king association. That association is responsible for making pits of deposits all over the world with little regard for human or plant life.

No completent person in her right mind would ever consider their 'science' valid.

There are wireless methods that will soon replace the expensive wire infrastructure.

Wireless Power Transfer: https://www.researchgate.net/profil...6a6fdcc37a80edf41/Wireless-Power-Transfer.pdf

IV. ADVANTAGES Electricity in the air technology would completely eliminate the existing power transfer using cables, wires ,towers and the sub stations between the power stations and consumers. It is more convenient, and has more freedom to use electricity. The cost and maintenance of transmission of electricity from stations to substations become cost efficient and cost of electricity for the consumers would also be reduced. This technology is also helpful to transfer electricity to those places where the wired transmission of electricity is not possible. Loss of electricity is also negligible in the wireless power transmission; therefore the efficiency of wireless power transmission is higher than the wired electricity transmission system. The power failure due to the faults in transmission transformers and short circuit would never exist in the wireless power transmission.

V. DISADVANTAGES Every technology need a capital cost for practical implementation at the initial stages. So the capital cost of initial implementation of wireless power transfer is high. In Laser power transmission technique radiation losses, attenuation losses etc. are concerned factors. The other disadvantage of the microwave technique is interference of microwave with current communication technology that leads to biological impacts on the humans as well as animals.

VI. BIOLOGICAL IMPACTS There is a fear of the microwave radiation effect associated with microwave technique. But the exponential growth in this domain rapidly is proving that the microwave radiation level would never be higher than the radiation safety standards. In general, effect of microwaves on atmosphere is quite small. Microwaves are scattered and absorbed by air, and water. Microwave is absorbed by water vapor and oxygen influence the air in the frequency band 2.45 GHz and 5.80 GHz. It is only enough to consider radiation absorption by the oxygen in microwave frequency bands. The attenuation is approximately 0.007 dB/km [6]. The total absorption through air from space is 0.035 dB, only in the case of solar power from space technique [7].

VII. CONCLUSION Wireless Power transmission technology offers to transmit electricity from short range to long range. It can eliminate the use of wired charging systems and batteries. In this paper, Author presented the theories of each method of wireless power transmission technology. It has two types of transmission technology in terms of frequencies which are non-radiative and radiative. Author presented some medical applications for wireless power transmission. Also advantages. Disadvantages, and Biological effects are also discussed.

Put that in you pipe and smoke it Derec.

#### laughing dog

##### Contributor
What do you think I am missing? I know she attended the idiotic anti-DAPL protest.
Do you know the reason(s) for her attendance? I ask, because the reason(s) might have to do with safety or other issues as opposed to pure anti-pipeline. For example, she says i
It was significant that so many of us came together to protect water, our natural resources.
Which is not the same thing as being against all pipelines.
https://haaland.house.gov/media/in-the-news/be-fierce
She opposes Keystone XL explicitly.
See above.
I know she is a cosponsor of AOC's GND which is radically anti-pipeline, anti-oil and gas and anti-nuclear. But despite the fact that decarbonizing the economy requires a lot of copper and other metals, she opposes copper mines such as the one proposed at Oak Flat.
Do you know the reasons for her positions? Does she oppose extracting natural resources or does she oppose these for the actual methods used?

Derec said:
It's called very poorly applied inductive reasoning.
FIFY

They don't strike me as things important enough to start threads. But if you feel that strongly about them, why didn't you start threads?
Mr. Zinke has a clear record of misuse of funds and poor policy choices. Given the chance to comment, you choose to construct a red herring about "starting threads". Your evasions are so predictable.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
Do you know the reason(s) for her attendance?
It was to cook chili. Jk. It was to protest agaist an oil pipeline. A very sensible and safe oil pipeline.

I ask, because the reason(s) might have to do with safety or other issues as opposed to pure anti-pipeline. For example, she says
It was significant that so many of us came together to protect water, our natural resources.
Which is not the same thing as being against all pipelines.
But pipeline opponents say shit like this about all pipelines. It's a tired old trope.
Note also that we had an extensive thread on DAPL back in 2016. The claims by DAPL opponents about DAPL being a threat to water were thoroughly debunked.

See above.

Do you know the reasons for her positions? Does she oppose extracting natural resources or does she oppose these for the actual methods used?

Again, we have her opposing several pipelines while supporting none as far as we know. We have her supporting radical legislation that explicitly opposes any fossil fuel developments.
This is correct application of inductive reasoning.

Derec said:
It's called very poorly applied inductive reasoning.
FIFY

Mr. Zinke has a clear record of misuse of funds
That is obviously bad and probably why he was gone, but it's a bit too "inside baseball" to really expect a discussion about it here..
and poor policy choices.
Like what? Support for fracking and pipelines is a good policy choice. As is support for copper and other metal mining.

Given the chance to comment, you choose to construct a red herring about "starting threads". Your evasions are so predictable.
It's not a red herring. To discuss an issue, usually a thread is started. If you wanted to discuss Zinke while he was SecInt, you were welcome to do so.
It's a bit late to debate him now. He's been out of the office for years. Deb Haaland is a clear and present danger in the here and now.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
You've obviously never been to Montana.
Can't say I have. But ever since I saw Hunt for Red October I was wondering what the big deal was.

Big mining, especially copper, ruined great farmlands east of Missoula, destroyed a city, Butte, destroyed a mountain and left a hazardous lake pit and about 60 square miles of hazardous slag. All achieved by Anaconda one of the charter members of that f..king association. That association is responsible for making pits of deposits all over the world with little regard for human or plant life.

What does a copper mine that closed over seven decades ago have to do with how much copper is needed for modern electric cars?

No completent person in her right mind would ever consider their 'science' valid.

No completent[sic] person would ever consider that an old copper mine has any bearing on validity of statements about copper needs of a decarbonized economy.

There are wireless methods that will soon replace the expensive wire infrastructure.
That's a good one!
While there will be some use for wireless power transmission, it will not "replace expensive wire infrastructure" nor will it decrease the demand for copper. Quite the opposite. I could see electric cars using wireless charging, but you will need copper coils on both the charger and the car to make it work.
Example: Oak Ridge Inches Closer to 15-⁠Minute Wireless EV Charging
And wireless charging will not replace the copper inside the electric motor (as either windings or squirrel cage), the wiring inside the battery or the high-current cables connecting the two.

Oh, this is so bad! Reads like an undergrad term paper, and a C+ one at that. How did you find this?

IV. ADVANTAGES Electricity in the air technology would completely eliminate the existing power transfer using cables, wires ,towers and the sub stations between the power stations and consumers.

Yeah, no it would not.

It is more convenient, and has more freedom to use electricity. The cost and maintenance of transmission of electricity from stations to substations become cost efficient and cost of electricity for the consumers would also be reduced
Wired power transmission is more efficient, cheaper and more flexible. Microwave power transmission would only be feasible for niche applications or proposed space-based power generation.

This technology is also helpful to transfer electricity to those places where the wired transmission of electricity is not possible.
Then just use solar panels and some battery backup.

Loss of electricity is also negligible in the wireless power transmission; therefore the efficiency of wireless power transmission is higher than the wired electricity transmission system.
That's some major bullshit right there. The losses would be much bigger.

The power failure due to the faults in transmission transformers and short circuit would never exist in the wireless power transmission.
No, it would be replaced through faults in transceiver equipment and the like.

V. DISADVANTAGES Every technology need a capital cost for practical implementation at the initial stages. So the capital cost of initial implementation of wireless power transfer is high. In Laser power transmission technique radiation losses, attenuation losses etc. are concerned factors. The other disadvantage of the microwave technique is interference of microwave with current communication technology that leads to biological impacts on the humans as well as animals.
Yupp. All that and then some.

VI. BIOLOGICAL IMPACTS There is a fear of the microwave radiation effect associated with microwave technique. But the exponential growth in this domain rapidly is proving that the microwave radiation level would never be higher than the radiation safety standards.
In that case you would need very broad beams and huge rectenna arrays.

In general, effect of microwaves on atmosphere is quite small. Microwaves are scattered and absorbed by air, and water.
These two sentences are in direct contradiction.

Microwave is absorbed by water vapor and oxygen influence the air in the frequency band 2.45 GHz and 5.80 GHz. It is only enough to consider radiation absorption by the oxygen in microwave frequency bands. The attenuation is approximately 0.007 dB/km [6]. The total absorption through air from space is 0.035 dB, only in the case of solar power from space technique [7].
The .007 dB/km value is just for oxygen. But anyway, that means 1.1 dB for a 100 mile line, or 23% of power lost just to atmospheric absorption without considering the effects of losses in generating and converting microwaves back to electricity, or losses due to beam spread. In contrast, with a high voltage AC line you love about 7% per 1000 km (~620 miles) and you don't have to worry about accidentally microwaving a flock of birds.
It is easy to see that this is not feasible for large-scale earth-bound power transmission.

The author also mentioned losses from space (as in from a giant solar array in space beaming power to Earth via microwaves), which is indeed a possible use for the technology as you can't really run copper wire into space and atmosphere thins considerably after the first 10 km or so limiting attenuation losses. But the beam transmitting at very high power would require a huge ground based array (needing a lot of copper which is ironic as your whole point was to denounce copper) of rectennas. There is another reason for a huge rectenna array - beamforming. A huge array allows the setup to operate as "near field" even at a huge distance which improves efficiency considerably. But again, this is all very theoretical and will not reduce the demand for copper - quite the opposite. And it has no bearing on how much copper is used to make an electric car, which is what you started out disbelieving just because it comes from a copper industry group.

VII. CONCLUSION Wireless Power transmission technology offers to transmit electricity from short range to long range. It can eliminate the use of wired charging systems and batteries.
How does the author envision wireless power transmission eliminating the need for batteries?

Put that in you pipe and smoke it Derec.
Using this C+ term paper to light up a pipe is probably not the worst use for it.

#### laughing dog

##### Contributor
But pipeline opponents say shit like this about all pipelines. It's a tired old trope.
In other words, you have nothing but bias to support your position.
Note also that we had an extensive thread on DAPL back in 2016. The claims by DAPL opponents about DAPL being a threat to water were thoroughly debunked.
No, it was not.

Again, we have her opposing several pipelines while supporting none as far as we know. We have her supporting radical legislation that explicitly opposes any fossil fuel developments.
This is correct application of inductive reasoning.
LOL - only if you think using "I don't know why she opposed several piplelines" is a reasonable basis.

It's not a red herring. To discuss an issue, usually a thread is started. If you wanted to discuss Zinke while he was SecInt, you were welcome to do so.
It's a bit late to debate him now. He's been out of the office for years.
Your excuses are as lame as they are predictable.
Deb Haaland is a clear and present danger in the here and now.
That is a hysterical claim - get a grip on reality.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
Geoff Bennett on Twitter: "Sen. Joe Manchin is undecided on Deb Haaland's nomination for Interior Secretary, his spokeswoman Sam Runyon tells @LACaldwellDC. Manchin and Haaland have met to discuss her nomination via Zoom, but Manchin is said to have "remaining questions."" / Twitter
I hope Manchin stands firm.

Manchin voted to confirm him.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Sessions then targeted immigrant children for wide-scale human rights abuses w/ family separation.
Family separation was mandated by a court decision (Flores) that forbade the governments to detain families together.

Yet the 1st Native woman to be Cabinet Sec is where Manchin finds unease?"
It would seem that the Left sees her Indianness as her number one qualification, as they trot it out much more frequently than her individual qualifications or accomplishments.
Her appointment is chiefly identity-politics driven.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: ".@DebHaalandNM is a profound public servant and champion for working families.
And a part of the far left wing of the Democratic Party.

Her appointment as Sec of the Interior would be historic, and her leadership holds the promise of progress for our country.

And much more expensive oil, gas and metals due to hamstringing of the extractive industries.
But no matter. Her mother was an Indian, and that's all that matters to the wokesters.

I'll call the Southern Baptist pastor and the Al Jazeera kid to tell them otherwise.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
In other words, you have nothing but bias to support your position.
Wrong.
No, it was not.
Wrong again. You are on a roll.
In those threads I have conclusively shown that
1. The anti-DAPL activists are against all pipelines and oil/gas drilling
2. there is no significant risk to Standing Rock water supplies due to the details of the pipeline construction and where the tribe's water inlet is.

That is a hysterical claim - get a grip on reality.
I have reality in a vise grip, unlike you. The anti-development types are virtually orgasming over the prospect of Haaland leading Department of Interior with an anti-development agenda.

##### Veteran Member
It would seem that the Left sees her Indianness as her number one qualification, as they trot it out much more frequently than her individual qualifications or accomplishments.
Her appointment is chiefly identity-politics driven.

Oh, I’m sorry, cabinet members are supposed to have qualifications now? When did that start being true?

#### laughing dog

##### Contributor
Wrong again. You are on a roll.
In those threads I have conclusively shown that
1. The anti-DAPL activists are against all pipelines and oil/gas drilling
2. there is no significant risk to Standing Rock water supplies due to the details of the pipeline construction and where the tribe's water inlet is.
You confuse your belief with reality.

I have reality in a vise grip, unlike you.
I am concerned because it is the claim Ms. Haaland is a "clear and present danger in the here and now" is either hysterical rhetoric or fucking delusional. Please get a grip on reality.
The anti-development types are virtually orgasming over the prospect of Haaland leading Department of Interior with an anti-development agenda.
Are you jealous? Or are you upset because the extract natural resources at all costs orgy at the Department of Interior may be over?

#### Politesse

##### Lux Aeterna
It would seem that the Left sees her Indianness as her number one qualification, as they trot it out much more frequently than her individual qualifications or accomplishments.
Her appointment is chiefly identity-politics driven.

Oh, I’m sorry, cabinet members are supposed to have qualifications now? When did that start being true?

If she were a Republican, "congressman from a major oil state" would be trotted out as a point blank, unquestionable qualification for the role.

And they would be just as happy to trot out her race, for that matter. They don't have as many minority representatives on the white nationalist side of the aisle, but when they have someone, they're all too happy to use their race as proof of the Party's liberal-mindedness. "You say we're racists, but if that's true, how come we have a Black on our side, answer me that" blah blah.

#### fromderinside

##### Mazzie Daius
It would seem that the Left sees her Indianness as her number one qualification, as they trot it out much more frequently than her individual qualifications or accomplishments.
Her appointment is chiefly identity-politics driven.

Oh, I’m sorry, cabinet members are supposed to have qualifications now? When did that start being true?

Why is everyone overlooking she is Indian which is a qualification. If black, southern, conservative or flatulate, are qualifications then certainly being a descendant of survivor of the American extinction event, otherwise known as Westward Ho, in the 1800s qualifies.

##### Loony Running The Asylum
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Haaland Retains Her Composure in the Face of “Immense Disrespect” in Confirmation Hearing

https://nativenewsonline.net/currents/haaland-retains-her-composure-in-the-face-of-immense-disrespect-in-confirmation-hearing?fbclid=IwAR2_8nC-erAudZLGSFQjeBEqI2MrwIs5YXnOzTiYST9lGv-q7u6ArcT4sOM

It was well that President Biden’s nominee mentioned that she was an Indigenous woman, as none of the Republican members on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee acknowledged the historic nature of Haaland’s nomination to oversee the federal agency that has responsibility for Indian Country. GOP senators Barrasso, Daines, Lankford, Murkowski and Hoeven are all past or present members of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs.

Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) continued Barrasso’s tenor, when he questioned Haaland about the Antiquities Act, and how “28 of national monuments over the last 40 years” had been established in Utah, to the detriment of state residents who he claimed had been “impoverished” by their creation.

Haaland began to explain that the area Lee was referring to, Bears Ears National Monument, was “the Pueblo Indians ancestral homeland,” but Lee curtly interjected that Haaland’s affinity for the area wasn’t his concern, it was with “people who have some sort of connection to the land,” whom he identified as oil and gas workers, ranchers, and associated leaseholders.

As expected, Haaland was repeatedly quizzed about extractive industry and what some GOP Members of Congress have called her “radical” and “extreme” views on renewable energy as part of her stated commitment to address climate change and transition from the present reliance on fossil fuels. Haaland repeatedly committed to support all forms of energy development in a “responsible manner” and that she would implement “President Biden’s agenda.”

In an attempt at political checkmate, both Senator James Lankford (R-OK) and Senator John Hoeven (R-ND), tried to compromise Haaland on tribal nations that rely upon extractive industry. Hoeven raised the importance of the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) to the Three Affiliated Tribes/MHA Nation in North Dakota, and Haaland’s opposition to the pipeline while chair of the Democratic Party in New Mexico.

“Yes, I did go to stand with the water protectors,” Haaland responded. “The reason I did that is because I agreed with the tribe that they felt they weren’t consulted in the best way,” she said of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, and emphasized the importance of tribal consultation.

Hoeven, until recently the chair of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, failed to mention the Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women and Girls (MMIWG) crisis in relation to the Bakken fracking fields that border the MHA Nation. MMIWG cases in the area rose 178% with the advent of man camps in the Bakken.

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##### Loony Running The Asylum
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White House pulls nomination of embattled budget chief pick Neera Tanden
"I look forward to having her serve in a role in my Administration," Biden said, signaling that he'll find a job for her that doesn't need Senate approval.

WASHINGTON — The White House is withdrawing Neera Tanden's nomination to lead the Office of Management and Budget, marking the first major personnel defeat for President Joe Biden.

Tanden ran into trouble after Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., came out against her, citing overtly partisan statements that he said would have a toxic and detrimental impact on the working relationship between Congress and the influential budget office.

Biden had hoped a moderate Republican would give Tanden the support she needed, but that appeared unlikely. Tanden, who would have been the first nonwhite woman to run the office, was criticized because of her previous posts on Twitter targeting Republicans and Democrats in the Senate.

"I have accepted Neera Tanden's request to withdraw her name from nomination for Director of the Office of Management and Budget," Biden said in a statement. "I have the utmost respect for her record of accomplishment, her experience and her counsel, and I look forward to having her serve in a role in my Administration. She will bring valuable perspective and insight to our work."

#### blastula

##### Contributor
I don't like Tanden, but Manchin is an ass. Get the fuck over yourself. And no Trumpsucking Repubs have any business complaining about anyone else's social media activity ever. Biden shouldn't have picked her though, if he really wants to change the tone. Lot of fail all around in this enterprise.

Biden was also slow to can Ducklo, a delay in his promise to "fire you on the spot" for disrespecting anyone, and that guy deserved to be fired by all rights.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
[Bryan Tyler Cohen tweet about Miguel Cardona]

If they disagree with his policies why should they vote for him just because he is a "public school teacher"?

#### Derec

##### Contributor
I don't like Tanden, but Manchin is an ass.

Fuck Manchin! Fuck Collins! Fuck Murkowski! All three put political correctness and identity politics over the good of the country.
$5 gas is not far off under Haaland hamstringing oil and gas industry and shutting down pipelines. #### Derec ##### Contributor It was well that President Biden’s nominee mentioned that she was an Indigenous woman, as none of the Republican members on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee acknowledged the historic nature of Haaland’s nomination to oversee the federal agency that has responsibility for Indian Country. GOP senators Barrasso, Daines, Lankford, Murkowski and Hoeven are all past or present members of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs. Her identity is the beginning and end of her supposed qualifications for this position. Her being an Indian should not matter one way or another. It's really a low-point in US politics when asking tough questions is considered "disrespect" just because the nominee is an Indian. As expected, Haaland was repeatedly quizzed about extractive industry and what some GOP Members of Congress have called her “radical” and “extreme” views on renewable energy as part of her stated commitment to address climate change and transition from the present reliance on fossil fuels. She is an extremist though. Haaland repeatedly committed to support all forms of energy development in a “responsible manner” and that she would implement “President Biden’s agenda.” Yeah, and I have some ocean property in Reno to sell you if you believe that! “Yes, I did go to stand with the water protectors,” Haaland responded. “The reason I did that is because I agreed with the tribe that they felt they weren’t consulted in the best way,” she said of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, and emphasized the importance of tribal consultation. That has been refuted when we debated the issue back in 2016. The tribe has been consulted, but they refused to talk or consider any option other than abandonment of the project. Note that consultation does not mean veto power! From this: The Untold Story of the Dakota Access Pipeline: How Politics Almost Undermined the Rule of Law Daryl Owen | LSU Journal of Energy Law and Resources said: On October 21, 2014, DAPL submitted an application to the Corps for approval of over 200 river crossings, permission to lay pipe beneath seven locations used by the Corps for navigation and flood control under the Rivers and Harbors Act, and a real estate easement pursuant to Section 28 of the MLA31 to allow the pipe to traverse beneath Corps-owned flood control lands at Lake Oahe. During the more than two years of Corps consideration of this application, Dakota Access and the Corps held 559 meetings with potentially affected parties. In furtherance of obligations under the NHPA and GC 20, they held 389 meetings with fifty-five potentially affected Indian Tribes. DAPL also engaged dozens of cultural experts who worked closely with State and Tribal historic preservation officers to ensure that nothing of cultural significance was disturbed. As a result of their findings, 140 route changes were undertaken in North Dakota alone.32 DAPL also accommodated the concerns of each of the fifty-five Tribes.33 What does Haaland want? Other than giving Standing Rock Sioux some sort of veto power of any pipeline project in the vicinity of their reservation? Hoeven, until recently the chair of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, failed to mention the Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women and Girls (MMIWG) crisis in relation to the Bakken fracking fields that border the MHA Nation. MMIWG cases in the area rose 178% with the advent of man camps in the Bakken. Obviously, any kidnapping or murder should be thoroughly investigated. But I do not see why Hoeven should be obligated to talk about this in the confirmation hearing. Also, what is the actual number of missing or murdered women close to those camps? When you have a small number, random fluctuations can easily translate to large % swings, much to delight of those who want to misuse statistics. I would also like to know how the number of missing and murdered women relate to numbers of missing and murdered men in the same area and over the same time frame. #### Derec ##### Contributor Why is everyone overlooking she is Indian which is a qualification. What do you mean? Her supporters cannot shut up about it. Identity politics is all they have in her favor. And that you consider her ethnicity "qualification" is a very good example of what's wrong with Democratic politics and supposedly liberal thought in this country. If black, southern, conservative or flatulate, are qualifications None of those are qualifications. Conservative/liberal is a set of political positions and is thus more relevant to nomination that ethnicity, but it is not qualification per se. then certainly being a descendant of survivor of the American extinction event, otherwise known as Westward Ho, in the 1800s qualifies. It does not. #### Derec ##### Contributor If she were a Republican, "congressman from a major oil state" would be trotted out as a point blank, unquestionable qualification for the role. It would not. Something like a degree in geology or petroleum engineering or even physics or chemistry would be great qualifications. As would be history of work in the extractive industries. And they would be just as happy to trot out her race, for that matter. They don't have as many minority representatives on the white nationalist side of the aisle, but when they have someone, they're all too happy to use their race as proof of the Party's liberal-mindedness. "You say we're racists, but if that's true, how come we have a Black on our side, answer me that" blah blah. That is unfortunate, sure. But it is the result of identity politics pushed by the Left, where everything is seen through the lens of race and ethnicity. #### Derec ##### Contributor I am concerned because it is the claim Ms. Haaland is a "clear and present danger in the here and now" is either hysterical rhetoric or fucking delusional. Please get a grip on reality. My grip is fine. Are you jealous? Or are you upset because the extract natural resources at all costs orgy at the Department of Interior may be over? Our economy needs those resources. So yes, I am upset that extractive industries will be hamstrung by Haaland. #### Elixir ##### Made in America So yes, I am upset that extractive industries will be hamstrung by Haaland. All the extreme right wingers are. Fuckem. #### Elixir ##### Made in America I don't like Tanden, but Manchin is an ass. Fuck Manchin! Fuck Collins! Fuck Murkowski! All three put political correctness and identity politics over the good of the country.$5 gas is not far off under Haaland hamstringing oil and gas industry and shutting down pipelines.
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It's almost $6/gallon in Denmark. Poor fuckers are going under - can't afford healthcare. Oh wait - no, that's the US. #### laughing dog ##### Contributor I am concerned because it is the claim Ms. Haaland is a "clear and present danger in the here and now" is either hysterical rhetoric or fucking delusional. Please get a grip on reality. My grip is fine. Not on reality if you really believe that Ms. Haaland is a "clear and present danger in the here and now"$5 gas is not far off under Haaland hamstringing oil and gas industry and shutting down pipelines. " Seriously, I worry about such anyone's grip on reality when I read such alarmist delusions.

Our economy needs those resources. So yes, I am upset that extractive industries will be hamstrung by Haaland.
So you are upset that the orgy at the DOI for natural resource extraction industries may be over. At worst, if those industries access to those resources is "hamstrung", then the price of those resources on the open market will rise which is a good thing, since their current prices do not reflect the marginal costs of their extraction and use.

#### Swammerdami

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##### Loony Running The Asylum
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Merrick Garland has been confirmed 70-30.

#### Politesse

##### Lux Aeterna
Guess all that lobby-standing back during the nomination fiasco wasn't in vain after all!

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
Merrick Garland has been confirmed 70-30.

I suppose McConnell and the Trumpistas from 2016 are hoping that Garland has better ethics than they demonstrated.
Tom

#### Elixir

Merrick Garland has been confirmed 70-30.

Another diaper-change moment for El Cheato.

#### TomC

##### Celestial Highness
Merrick Garland has been confirmed 70-30.

Another diaper-change moment for El Cheato.

Here's a fun bit.
Send Trump a gold engraved invitation to the swearing in ceremony for Garland.
Hold it up on YouTube for everyone to see before giving it a beautifully calligraphic address and mailing it.
Tom

#### lpetrich

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U.S. Senate Majority Leader Schumer moves to bring Haaland nomination to final vote | Reuters
Republican Senators Steve Daines and Cynthia Lummis earlier in the day put holds on Biden’s nomination of U.S. Representative Deb Haaland to head the department, in a move that likely only delays her confirmation for a few days until next week.

Haaland is expected to be confirmed by the Senate as at least two Republicans, Senators Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, support her nomination.

“Despite Republican obstruction, Representative Haaland will be confirmed by the Senate,” Schumer said. If approved, Haaland would become the first Native American to lead a Cabinet agency.
She was recently confirmed by some Senate Energy & Natural Resources Committee.

Becerra gets assist from several GOP state AGs as conservatives try to torpedo nomination | Fox News
President Biden’s pick for Health and Human Services secretary, Xavier Becerra, received praise from two GOP attorneys general he worked with during his time as California attorney general, as Republicans in the Senate push to torpedo his nomination.

Becerra, if confirmed, would be the nation’s first Latino secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. He is expected to face a final Senate vote on his nomination in the coming days after the Senate Finance Committee voted on his nomination last week, ending in a tie along party lines.

Who Are President Biden's Cabinet Members And Key Advisers? : NPR - 15 confirmed, 18 to go

was confirmed as Secretary of Energy. She was the first woman to serve as Michigan's governor, and she earlier served as attorney general of Michigan.

#### Derec

Not on reality if you really believe that Ms. Haaland is a "clear and present danger in the here and now" $5 gas is not far off under Haaland hamstringing oil and gas industry and shutting down pipelines. " Seriously, I worry about such anyone's grip on reality when I read such alarmist delusions. She is a known opponent of the oil and gas industries. That is a fact. She even went to North Dakota to protest an oil pipeline in 2016. Nominating a cabinet secretary protesting against the very industry they are tasked at managing/regulating is stupid. It's like having an education secretary who was protesting against public schools! So you are upset that the orgy at the DOI for natural resource extraction industries may be over. At worst, if those industries access to those resources is "hamstrung", then the price of those resources on the open market will rise which is a good thing, since their current prices do not reflect the marginal costs of their extraction and use. If the domestic oil and gas production is hamstrung, as I predict will happen under Haaland, then the prices will rise not by recognizing external costs (not "marginal costs") of their extraction and use. Taxation would accomplish that. All hamstringing the industry will accomplish is to reduce supply, which means not only higher prices but US energy consumer having to use more imported oil and gas which in turn means more money funding jobs for people in Venezuela or Russia or Saudi Arabia and not in US. Which means fewer jobs, tax revenues and royalties in the US. Better approach would be to support domestic energy production but to impose a carbon tax to account for externalities. #### Derec ##### Contributor It's almost$6/gallon in Denmark.

Why is it always poor Denmark that has to stand in for flawed comparisons by American neosocialists?

Two main differences
- Denmark is a smaller country with a much greater population density and far fewer miles driven per person. So the impact of higher gas prices is not nearly as big as the impact that same price would have in the US
- The reason the gasoline price is so high in Denmark is taxes. So at least the government takes in some revenue through it. However, if prices in the US go up because we will produce less domesically and have to import more, than the additional money US drivers have to pay will not go into the Treasury but to oil companies abroad.

Poor fuckers are going under - can't afford healthcare.
Oh wait - no, that's the US.

Again, Denmark has high gas price due to taxation, which allows for more services. Not due to shunning oil and gas industry, which is counterproductive as it actually reduces government revenues. While US is #1 producer of oil worldwide, we do not produce orders of magnitude more oil on a per-capita basis than Denmark - 36 bbl/d/1000 for US vs. 24 for Denmark.

I am also not aware of Danes protesting every time a new oil or gas pipeline is being built. Maybe that's why we can't have as many nice things as the Danes - too many malcontents like AOC and Haaland going on barricades - literally! - against domestic industry.

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Kristen Clarke, while at Harvard (an affirmative action admission?) penned a black supremacist and racist screed.

Clarke Should Retract Statements
Harvard Crimson said:
BSA President Kristen Clarke '97 wasn't here for the Jeffries lecture. But in a letter to the editors of The Crimson, Clarke made a series of assertions cerily reminiscent of the CUNY professor's racist theories. Among them, was the following: "Melanin endows Blacks with greater mental, physical and spiritual abilities--something which cannot be measured based on Eurocentric standards."

White people have been cancelled for far less outrageous statements.

As head of the Black Student Association, she also invited a anti-semite and racist Tony Martin to speak at Harvard .
My Kristen Clarke Problem

And, hardly surprising for a black supremacist, she is a big fan of cop-killer Wesley Cook (nom de guerre: Mumia Abu-Jamal). When she was in law school in 1999, she organized a conference supporting that lowlife murderer.

Much more recently, she suggested that it was bad for Chicago police to actually investigate the hate crime allegations by Jussie Smollett instead of just blindly believing him without evidence.

Of course, those claims turned out to be bogus, but Clarke has (to my knowledge) not retracted her condemnation of Chicago police for having the temerity to do their jobs.
She has no job being anywhere near DOJ!

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Not on reality if you really believe that Ms. Haaland is a "clear and present danger in the here and now" $5 gas is not far off under Haaland hamstringing oil and gas industry and shutting down pipelines. " Seriously, I worry about such anyone's grip on reality when I read such alarmist delusions. She is a known opponent of the oil and gas industries. That is a fact. She even went to North Dakota to protest an oil pipeline in 2016. Nominating a cabinet secretary protesting against the very industry they are tasked at managing/regulating is stupid. It's like having an education secretary who was protesting against public schools! So you are upset that the orgy at the DOI for natural resource extraction industries may be over. At worst, if those industries access to those resources is "hamstrung", then the price of those resources on the open market will rise which is a good thing, since their current prices do not reflect the marginal costs of their extraction and use. If the domestic oil and gas production is hamstrung, as I predict will happen under Haaland, then the prices will rise not by recognizing external costs (not "marginal costs") of their extraction and use. Taxation would accomplish that. All hamstringing the industry will accomplish is to reduce supply, which means not only higher prices but US energy consumer having to use more imported oil and gas which in turn means more money funding jobs for people in Venezuela or Russia or Saudi Arabia and not in US. Which means fewer jobs, tax revenues and royalties in the US. Better approach would be to support domestic energy production but to impose a carbon tax to account for externalities. [TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A Big Oil exec told me I had a "misconception" about a special tax break polluters get that other businesses don't.<br><br>So, after explaining the deduction to him, I offered to write it out of the tax code if that what he wants. Just let me know! <a href="https://t.co/ML25PMnrg5">pic.twitter.com/ML25PMnrg5</a></p>— Rep. Katie Porter (@RepKatiePorter) <a href="https://twitter.com/RepKatiePorter/status/1369368725955244040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET].. #### lpetrich ##### Contributor I looked at the most recent votes at senate.gov - U.S. Senate: Roll Call Votes 117th Congress - 1st Session (2021) Many of Biden's nominations had cloture votes, though not all of them. Taste-of-Armageddon filibustering is just plain too easy. • Avril Danica Haines - Dir of National Intelligence - 84-10 • Lloyd James Austin - Sec'y of Defense - 93-2 • Janet Louise Yellen - Sec'y of the Treasury - 84-15 • Antony John Blinken - Sec'y of State - 78-22 • Nicholas Mayorkas - Sec'y of Dept. of Homeland Security - 55-42, 56-43 • Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg - Sec'y of Transportation - 86-13 • Denis Richard McDonough - Sec'y of Veterans Affairs - 87-7 • Linda Thomas-Greenfield - UN Security Council - 75-20, 78-20 • Linda Thomas-Greenfield - UN General Assembly - 77-20, 78-21 • Thomas J. Vilsack - Sec'y of Agriculture - 92-7 • Jennifer Mulhern Granholm - Sec'y of Energy - 67-32, 64-35 • Miguel A. Cardona - Sec'y of Education - 66-32, 64-33 • Gina Marie Raimondo - Sec'y of Commerce - 84-15, 84-15 • Cecilia Elena Rouse - Chmn of the Council of Economic Advisers - 94-5, 95-4 • Marcia Louise Fudge - Sec'y of Housing and Urban Development - 69-30, 66-34 • Merrick Brian Garland - Attorney General - 70-29, 70-30 • Michael Stanley Regan - Admin of the Environmental Protection Agency - 65-35, 66-34 • Debra Anne Haaland - Sec'y of the Interior - 54-42, (conf. vote upcoming) The closer votes are the ones that are filibustered. The Republicans to vote for cloture for Deb Haaland's nomination are Susan Collins ME, Lindsey Graham SC, Lisa Murkowski AK, and Dan Sullivan AK. No Democrats voted against that cloture. #### laughing dog ##### Contributor She is a known opponent of the oil and gas industries. That is a fact. She even went to North Dakota to protest an oil pipeline in 2016. Nominating a cabinet secretary protesting against the very industry they are tasked at managing/regulating is stupid. It's like having an education secretary who was protesting against public schools! You keep repeating the same story while omitting the reason for protest which was not anti-oil and gas. f Derec said: If the domestic oil and gas production is hamstrung, as I predict will happen under Haaland, then the prices will rise not by recognizing external costs (not "marginal costs") of their extraction and use. The marginal costs of extraction and use include the external costs. Derec said: Taxation would accomplish that. All hamstringing the industry will accomplish is to reduce supply, which means not only higher prices but US energy consumer having to use more imported oil and gas which in turn means more money funding jobs for people in Venezuela or Russia or Saudi Arabia and not in US. Which means fewer jobs, tax revenues and royalties in the US. Higher prices -regardless of the reasons for the increased costs- mean consumers use less. There is no reason to expect any carbon taxes in the US in the near future. #### fromderinside ##### Mazzie Daius You keep repeating the same story while omitting the reason for protest which was not anti-oil and gas. f The marginal costs of extraction and use include the external costs. Derec said: Taxation would accomplish that. All hamstringing the industry will accomplish is to reduce supply, which means not only higher prices but US energy consumer having to use more imported oil and gas which in turn means more money funding jobs for people in Venezuela or Russia or Saudi Arabia and not in US. Which means fewer jobs, tax revenues and royalties in the US. Higher prices -regardless of the reasons for the increased costs- mean consumers use less. There is no reason to expect any carbon taxes in the US in the near future. Sure there is. Just look how Derec keeps broadcasting his fear mongering. Someone might actually believe if they are Trump conditioned. #### lpetrich ##### Contributor Deb Haaland is now confirmed as Secretary of the Interior. The vote on her confirmation: U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 117th Congress - 1st Session D: Y 47, nv 3 R: Y 4, N 40, nv 6 Total: Y 51, N 40, nv 9 The four Republicans who voted for her were Susan Collins R-ME, Lisa Murkowski and Dan Sullivan R-AK, Lindsey Graham R-SC The three Democrats who did not vote were Michael Bennet and John Hickenlooper D-CO, Mazie Hirono D-HI Who Are President Biden's Cabinet Members And Key Advisers? : NPR - 17 confirmed, 16 to go #### lpetrich ##### Contributor • Debra Anne Haaland - Sec'y of the Interior - 54-42, 51-40 • Isabella Casillas Guzman - Admin. of the Small Business Administration - 80-18, 81-17 • Katherine C. Tai - US Trade Representative - 98-0, 98-0 • Xavier Becerra - Sec'y of Health & Human Services - 51-48, 50-49, 50-49 • Martin Joseph Walsh - Sec'y of Labor - 58-30, (conf. vote upcoming) For Xavier Becerra, the votes were straight party-line votes, with the exception of Susan Collins R-ME, who voted to advance his appointment and to confirm it. There was one nonvoter in all three votes, Richard Burr R-NC in the first one and Mazie Hirono D-HI in the second and third ones. Rep. Cedric Richmond, D-LA-02, resigned on Jan 15 to become the Director of the Office of Public Engagement in the Biden Admin. Fundraising shows Dem split for one Louisiana seat, GOP unity for another Louisiana special election to replace Richmond heads to runoff | TheHill Louisiana Primary Election Results 2021 - The New York Times From rollcall.com In the solidly blue 2nd District, state Sens. Troy Carter and Karen Carter Peterson, both Democrats, raised the most of the 15 candidates on the ballot, with Carter pulling in$519,000 to Carter Peterson’s $450,000. Democrat Gary Chambers, a progressive publisher and activist who has attracted attention because of his massive social media following, was in third place with$304,000, followed by Republican Claston Bernard, a former Olympic decathlete and author who raised \$113,000.
From the NYT: TC 36.4%, KCP 22.9%, GC 21.3%, CB 9.8%, others much less
The election is now in a runoff phase, with TC and KCP going head-to-head on Apr 24.

Rep. Marcia Fudge, D-OH-11, resigned from the House on Mar. 10, after she was confirmed as Sec'y of Housing & Urban Development. Progressive favorite fmr OH State Sen Nina Turner is running for that seat, against some other people.
The primary election will be on Aug 3, and the general one on Nov 2.

##### Loony Running The Asylum
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The Stephanie Miller Show is selling these designed T shirts. Cool!

##### Loony Running The Asylum
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Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas fires almost every member of Homeland Security Advisory Council

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas fired most of the members of the Homeland Security Advisory Council on Friday, according to a letter obtained by ABC News.

The Homeland Security Advisory Council is made up of 30 members -- both Democrats and Republicans. Some of those who were fired included allies of former President Donald Trump, such as former acting DHS Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli and former acting Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Thomas Homan.

"I am considering how the HSAC can bring the greatest value to the Department and how the expertise, judgment, and counsel of its Members can be harnessed most effectively to advance the Department's mission. I expect to work closely with the HSAC and to rely on its Members to help guide the Department through a period of change," Mayorkas wrote.

The HSAC produces reports and advises the secretary on a range of issues from domestic violent extremism to biometrics.

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Who Are President Biden's Cabinet Members And Key Advisers? : NPR
U.S. Senate: Roll Call Votes 117th Congress - 1st Session (2021)
• Martin Joseph Walsh - Sec'y of Labor - 68-30, 68-29
• Shalanda D. Young - Dep Dir of Office of Mgmt & Budget - 62-38, 63-37
• Vivek Hallegere Murthy - Surgeon General - 57-43, 57-43
• Rachel Leland Levine - Ass't Sec'y of Health & Human Svcs - 52-48, 52-48
• David Turk - Dep Sec'y of Energy - 98-2, 98-2
Only 2 Senators rejected David Turk: Rand Paul R-TN & Josh Hawley R-MO.

Only 11 appointees to go, including Samantha Power, nominated for Administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development. I recall her from the Obama years.

No replacement for Neera Tanden for Office of Management of Budget.

#### Swammerdami

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It's interesting to look at close confirmation votes. Betsy DeVos, for example, is corrupt, criminal, incompetent and stupid. It's hard to imagine any respectable Senator voting to confirm her, and indeed even two Gopsters — Collins and Murkowski — voted against her. The only reason she was confirmed is that Sessions of Alabama, abstaining on most of the confirmation votes since he was himself designated as Trump's Criminal General, broke that pattern to say 'Yea' for DeVos. Vice Prez Pence broke the 50-50 tie.

So when I see a close vote, I check.
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[*]Rachel Leland Levine - Ass't Sec'y of Health & Human Svcs - 52-48, 52-48

I'd never heard of Levine. Could she be a total incompetent like Perry, Carson or DeVos? A criminal like Ross or DeVos? Someone fundamentally despicable like Mnuchin or DeVos?

I Wiki'ed her:
... professor of pediatrics and psychiatry at the Penn State College of Medicine, and previously served as the Pennsylvania physician general
She seems qualified. No mention of any felonies.
... one of only a few openly transgender government officials in the United States
Okay. Got it. Dis 'Murica.

#### lpetrich

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The latest nominees
• Polly Ellen Trottenberg - Dep Sec'y of Transport - 81-14, 82-15
• Wendy Ruth Sherman - Dep Sec'y of State - 55-42, 56-42
• Gary Gensler - Mbr of Securities and Exchange Commission - 53-45, 53-45
• Brenda Mallory - Mbr of Council on Environmental Quality - 53-45, 53-45

NPR lists 27 confirmed, 7 awaiting confirmation. Along those waiting are Samantha Power for Admin of U.S. Agency for International Development. She served as Ambassador to the United Nations over 2013-2017, Obama's second term.

Under fire, Biden nominee Gupta voices regret for 'harsh rhetoric' | Reuters
Vanita Gupta, President Joe Biden’s nominee for the Justice Department’s No. 3 post, expressed regret on Tuesday for her past “harsh rhetoric” and said she does not favor cutting police funding, as she faced sharp Republican criticism during her U.S. Senate confirmation hearing.

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Senator Chuck Grassley, the panel’s top Republican, read aloud past posts from Gupta’s Twitter feed in which she assailed Republicans. He accused Gupta of “strident liberal advocacy” and excessive partisanship, reflecting opposition to her Senate confirmation from some Republicans and conservative activists.

“Her Twitter feed has painted Republicans with a broad brush, describing the Republican National Convention as three nights of ‘racism, xenophobia and outrageous lies,’” Grassley said.

Gupta pledged to work with law enforcement and with Republicans if confirmed.

“I regret the harsh rhetoric that I have used in the past at times in the last several years,” Gupta said. “I wish I could take it back.”

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Republicans questioned Gupta on her views on racism after she said it “remains very much a live problem in America today.” Republicans tried to portray her as flip-flopping on policy positions, pointing to past comments on decriminalizing drugs and eliminating the qualified immunity legal doctrine that has shielded some police officers accused of misconduct from liability.

Questioned by Republican Senator John Cornyn, Gupta said her prior statements opposing qualified immunity came in her capacity as head of a civil rights group.

“I don’t come in supporting it - elimination - one way or another,” Gupta added, saying her duty would be to follow Biden’s lead on policy and engaging with interested parties on the topic.
For the #2 post is Lisa Monaco, someone who has provoked less controversy.

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 117th Congress - 1st Session - On the Motion to Discharge (Motion to Discharge the Nomination of Vanita Gupta from the Committee on the Judiciary)