Price Waterhouse analyst murdered in his home by police

[Underseer]

https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1038128986440835073

Guess his race. Go on, guess!

Yes, this is a post on Twitter, but it's a post on Twitter by a journalist.

No, the journalist doesn't work for FOX News.

 

[prideandfall]

so this is hitting news sites now and more details are being reported.

so the story goes: at 10pm an off-duty officer who had just gotten off shift went home, says she accidentally walked into the wrong apartment, saw someone she didn't know, and fatally shot him.
... which kind of sounds like a giant load of complete fucking bullshit to me.

the idea of going from "just coming from work" to "being in the wrong apartment and not realizing it" to "instantly pulling out a weapon and scoring a fatal shot on seeing someone" is just ludicrous to me.
i suspect there is going to end up being a story here, that the officer and victim had a history - wouldn't be surprised to find out they'd been recently dating or sleeping together or something, basically i'd be shocked if this wasn't a revenge killing that the officer is trying to play off as an accident.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

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i suspect there is going to end up being a story here, that the officer and victim had a history - wouldn't be surprised to find out they'd been recently dating or sleeping together or something, basically i'd be shocked if this wasn't a revenge killing that the officer is trying to play off as an accident.

Still quite a bit of a jump from sleeping together and shooting him to death.

 

[barbos]

Well, if he was standing right after the door, she would not have time to realize it's not her apartment.
Problem is that she shot the guy without checking if he was armed or threatening to her.
On the other hand, imagine you are at home playing with your gun and police comes by mistake, you're dead.
I think everyone including police should be disarmed

 

[repoman]

Just wait and see then.

So, in my apartment building all the floors look the same and one time I went to the wrong floor and almost put my key in. One time a resident of the either the floor above or below came opened my door that I forgot to lock. I recognized him. probably pressed the above floor and got out of the elevator with someone else on my floor. Just absent minded.

So this guy probably forgot to lock his door, she got freaked out that the door was unlocked even without the key and then got into defense mode. At that point double checking the door number should have been the first instinct. But cops nowadays they basically are pit bulls.

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The other scenario is that the door was locked and she was making noise at his door getting her keys out of her purse. He looked through the peephole saw a uniformed cop and opened the door to ask what she needed assistance with.

So did she think a burglar would open the door when a cop was there (what floor was she on?) instead of going out the window and try to overpower her? So she switched up from keys/purse to gun very quickly.

 

[Elixir]

Just wait and see then.

So, in my apartment building all the floors look the same and one time I went to the wrong floor and almost put my key in. One time a resident of the either the floor above or below came opened my door that I forgot to lock. I recognized him. probably pressed the above floor and got out of the elevator with someone else on my floor. Just absent minded.

So this guy probably forgot to lock his door, she got freaked out that the door was unlocked even without the key and then got into defense mode. At that point double checking the door number should have been the first instinct. But cops nowadays they basically are pit bulls.

I just "suffered" a half hour delay getting back to my office after lunch (house is 8 minutes away) because of a gunman holed up in a house near the highway to town. Scanner says he's now in custody, and the preliminary report is that he was threatening people because he didn't want to go in for gall bladder surgery.
See, folks? There is almost nothing that can't be addressed by firearms!

 

[Trausti]

What does the lady being a cop have to do with anything? She wasn’t on duty. Should we read in that her being a woman is also relevant somehow?

 

[couch_sloth]

Just wait and see then.

So, in my apartment building all the floors look the same and one time I went to the wrong floor and almost put my key in. One time a resident of the either the floor above or below came opened my door that I forgot to lock. I recognized him. probably pressed the above floor and got out of the elevator with someone else on my floor. Just absent minded.

So this guy probably forgot to lock his door, she got freaked out that the door was unlocked even without the key and then got into defense mode. At that point double checking the door number should have been the first instinct. But cops nowadays they basically are pit bulls.

Years ago I did a similar thing: Every floor of the apartment complex looked the same, I got on the wrong floor and entered the apartment just below me (the door was unlocked). But I immediately knew I was in the wrong place, e. g. The furniture was all wrong.
One person in the apartment saw me, a girl about 13 years old. The only reaction she made to me, stepping into her apartment, was a huge smile; which was perhaps the most disturbing thing about the whole incident.

 

[Elixir]

What does the lady being a cop have to do with anything? She wasn’t on duty. Should we read in that her being a woman is also relevant somehow?

Well yeah, of course: it removes the gay sex angle.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Black man killed for being in right apartment

https://www.dallasobserver.com/news...er-mistakenly-entering-his-apartment-11115855

A Dallas Police Department officer shot and killed a 26-year-old man late Thursday after she entered his apartment in the Cedars believing it was her own, DPD said early Friday morning.

According to DPD media relations Sgt. Warren Mitchell, the officer, who has yet to be identified, had just returned to her apartment complex just blocks from Dallas police headquarters. She was in uniform and had just completed a "full shift," according to DPD.

 

[Derec]

Guess his race. Go on, guess!

That's easy. You would not have posted it if it did not advance your

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Still quite a bit of a jump from sleeping together and shooting him to death.

Hell hath no fury ...

 

[Derec]

When will you learn that you can't beat Underseer on these kinds of topics? His Animal-sense is tingling whenever a story like that hits the wires.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Guess his race. Go on, guess!

That's easy. You would not have posted it if it did not advance your

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Still quite a bit of a jump from sleeping together and shooting him to death.

Hell hath no fury ...

... than a Derec?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

When will you learn that you can't beat Underseer on these kinds of topics? His Animal-sense is tingling whenever a story like that hits the wires.

Do you have anything to contribute to the topic or just ad hominem derails?

 

[RavenSky]

Dallas Police Chief U. Renee Hall has requested a manslaughter warrant for the officer who shot Botham Shem Jean, she said Friday afternoon. The officer's name will be released once she is officially charged.

Because of the unique circumstances of the killing, the Texas Rangers will conduct an independent investigation into Jean's death.

a couple of updates https://www.dallasobserver.com/news...er-mistakenly-entering-his-apartment-11115855

 

[dismal]

Just wait and see then.

So, in my apartment building all the floors look the same and one time I went to the wrong floor and almost put my key in. One time a resident of the either the floor above or below came opened my door that I forgot to lock. I recognized him. probably pressed the above floor and got out of the elevator with someone else on my floor. Just absent minded.

So this guy probably forgot to lock his door, she got freaked out that the door was unlocked even without the key and then got into defense mode. At that point double checking the door number should have been the first instinct. But cops nowadays they basically are pit bulls.

Years ago I did a similar thing: Every floor of the apartment complex looked the same, I got on the wrong floor and entered the apartment just below me (the door was unlocked). But I immediately knew I was in the wrong place, e. g. The furniture was all wrong.
One person in the apartment saw me, a girl about 13 years old. The only reaction she made to me, stepping into her apartment, was a huge smile; which was perhaps the most disturbing thing about the whole incident.

I had it happen to me once where I got off on the wrong floor for reasons I don't recall and got about 3 steps in front of what would have been my unit on a lower floor when it sunk in to me that something wasn't right. My building used different decorations on different floors. But we do a lot of these things on auto-pilot.

On the surface I find this story a bit too extreme of an example of zoning out to be credible, but crazy 1-in-a-billion stuff does happen. I find it even less plausible that this woman just decided to shoot a black person so came up with this story and went looking for doors that were open in her building with black people at home so she could try to pull it off because racism/police.

We'll see what other facts come out.

 

[dismal]

So, Don, you think this woman went through her building opening doors looking for Black people to shoot knowing she could fall back on this wonderful alibi?

Since we now have 2 threads on this trying to make this about the guy's race, I'm trying to work out exactly how people are assuming race figures in.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Apparently, it's okay to shoot a black guy when it's unnecessary because of some accidental thinking that still doesn't make it necessary. Yup, you heard it here first in the form of burden shifting and strawmen. Thanks dismal.

 

[dismal]

Apparently, it's okay to shoot a black guy when it's unnecessary because of some accidental thinking that still doesn't make it necessary. Yup, you heard it here first in the form of burden shifting and strawmen. Thanks dismal.

Huh? I didn't suggest it was OK to shoot anyone like this. YOU ran squealing to a politics thread to bring up the guy's race when you saw this. So did underseer. So,why did you think his race was relevant? Why did you think it was a political issue? Why did you think I said it was OK?

 

[Rhea]

So, Don, you think this woman went through her building opening doors looking for Black people to shoot knowing she could fall back on this wonderful alibi?

Since we now have 2 threads on this trying to make this about the guy's race, I'm trying to work out exactly how people are assuming race figures in.

dismal, it's about race because many white Americans and many cop Americans see black and think "Danger! Thug!" with lethal consequences. They need to stop thinking that way, because too many innocent people are dying from it.

By contrast, when the victim is white... well, by contrast they usually aren't victims of this because the police stop and evaluate when the victim is white.

That's how race plays into it. It's another case of "oh! He was black and that scared me into shooting him! Everybody's cool with that, right?"

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but on the bright side, since she falsely accused him of a crime and the penalty was death - now we already know what Loren and Derec think her sentence should be. So that saves a lot of arguing.