Price Waterhouse analyst murdered in his home by police

[Derec]

No reason to doubt the cops? There's always reason to doubt the cops. For one thing, they're cops.

The conspiracy theory that police killed Brown and either framed Green and the two Mitchells or hired them is ridiculous even if you are a cop-hater.

https://www.theroot.com/nobody-is-buying-dallas-pd-s-bullshit-story-about-joshu-1838917708

The Root is frankly a racist website whose writers often traffic in conspiracy theories.

 

[Derec]

When a cop is on trial for murdering my brother

Jean and Brown were not brothers. What are you talking about?

and I'm testifying for the prosecution, I sure do love to stash thousands of dollars of illegal drugs in my home, nothing suspicious about that,

Maybe he didn't have a better place to stash them. Maybe the reason he set up the deal was to get rid of his inventory. In any case, there is no reason for police to search an apartment of a mere witness, and police would not have searched it either had he not turned up dead.

Also, the lawyer (Lee Merrittless) said that Brown though there were people who were after him - that's why he went to California and was reluctant to testify. He was also shot a year ago outside a strip club.

nor the famously On The Level Dallas Police Dept getting a confession out of someone facing life in prison if he doesn't cooperate

Did they also shoot him or did they drive from hospital to hospital looking for somebody who was shot and whose confederates drove a car matching the description of the car that hightailed it from the crime scene?
These conspiracy theories are getting sillier by the day.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

No reason to doubt the cops? There's always reason to doubt the cops. For one thing, they're cops.

The conspiracy theory that police killed Brown and either framed Green and the two Mitchells or hired them is ridiculous even if you are a cop-hater.

https://www.theroot.com/nobody-is-buying-dallas-pd-s-bullshit-story-about-joshu-1838917708

The Root is frankly a racist website whose writers often traffic in conspiracy theories.

Half the stuff in that article makes sense.

 

[Derec]

Half the stuff in that article makes sense.

My posts make much more sense than that, and racist The Root ramblings far less.

But anyway, here is an article giving some details on the life and times of Joshua Brown. Turns out he had convictions for drugs, theft and and weapons possession. All misdemeanors, but nevertheless not very hard to accept that he was a drug dealer.

What we know about the Dallas slaying of Joshua Brown, after arrests and rampant rumors

What is also interesting is that the defense knew of his criminal record, but thought that his testimony was beneficial to their side.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Half the stuff in that article makes sense.

My posts make much more sense than that, and racist The Root ramblings far less.

Your posts make sense less often than The Root and your posts are more racist more often.

But anyway, here is an article giving some details on the life and times of Joshua Brown. Turns out he had convictions for drugs, theft and and weapons possession. All misdemeanors, but nevertheless not very hard to accept that he was a drug dealer.

What we know about the Dallas slaying of Joshua Brown, after arrests and rampant rumors

What is also interesting is that the defense knew of his criminal record, but thought that his testimony was beneficial to their side.

It really isn't that interesting. Here is something that IS interesting, though:
You claim to be for legalization of prostitution and drugs and here's a black drug dealer and you are making a big deal out of it. So people should make a big deal out of illegal Johns, too, right? Should YOU be distrusted in Court?

 

[Derec]

Your posts make sense less often than The Root and your posts are more racist more often.

I disagree. The Root even invented their own racial slur for white people.

You claim to be for legalization of prostitution and drugs and here's a black drug dealer and you are making a big deal out of it.

I am for legalization of sex work and some drugs, particularly marijuana, yes.

And I am making a big deal out of him being a drug dealer not because I think marijuana is wrong, but because of the stupid conspiracy theories that say that Dallas police killed Brown. Part of it is a denial that he was a drug dealer.
And regardless where you stand on legalization, the illegal status makes the business more dangerous and shootouts are not that uncommon. Just like they were not uncommon with alcohol runners during the Prohibition.

Again, there is no reason the Brown murder is anything more than what police say it is - a drug deal gone very bad.

So people should make a big deal out of illegal Johns, too, right? Should YOU be distrusted in Court?

I don't have a record, but regardless of the crime a lawyer could make the case with the jury that somebody who has had repeated arrests and convictions could have an ax to grind.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I disagree. The Root even invented their own racial slur for white people.


I am for legalization of sex work and some drugs, particularly marijuana, yes.

And I am making a big deal out of him being a drug dealer not because I think marijuana is wrong, but because of the stupid conspiracy theories that say that Dallas police killed Brown. Part of it is a denial that he was a drug dealer.
And regardless where you stand on legalization, the illegal status makes the business more dangerous and shootouts are not that uncommon. Just like they were not uncommon with alcohol runners during the Prohibition.

Again, there is no reason the Brown murder is anything more than what police say it is - a drug deal gone very bad.

So people should make a big deal out of illegal Johns, too, right? Should YOU be distrusted in Court?

I don't have a record, but regardless of the crime a lawyer could make the case with the jury that somebody who has had repeated arrests and convictions could have an ax to grind.

Whether or not you have arrests is based on you being very very lucky and probably white privilege. If you were black, you'd likely have been arrested. So if you were unlucky, suddenly people shouldn't trust your testimony in court?

 

[Metaphor]

I disagree. The Root even invented their own racial slur for white people.


I am for legalization of sex work and some drugs, particularly marijuana, yes.

And I am making a big deal out of him being a drug dealer not because I think marijuana is wrong, but because of the stupid conspiracy theories that say that Dallas police killed Brown. Part of it is a denial that he was a drug dealer.
And regardless where you stand on legalization, the illegal status makes the business more dangerous and shootouts are not that uncommon. Just like they were not uncommon with alcohol runners during the Prohibition.

Again, there is no reason the Brown murder is anything more than what police say it is - a drug deal gone very bad.

So people should make a big deal out of illegal Johns, too, right? Should YOU be distrusted in Court?

I don't have a record, but regardless of the crime a lawyer could make the case with the jury that somebody who has had repeated arrests and convictions could have an ax to grind.

Whether or not you have arrests is based on you being very very lucky and probably white privilege. If you were black, you'd likely have been arrested. So if you were unlucky, suddenly people shouldn't trust your testimony in court?

You appear to have missed the "and convictions" part.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Whether or not you have arrests is based on you being very very lucky and probably white privilege. If you were black, you'd likely have been arrested. So if you were unlucky, suddenly people shouldn't trust your testimony in court?

You appear to have missed the "and convictions" part.

No I did not. I completely addressed it. If not for Derec's luck and privilege, he'd be arrested and convicted. Why do you always semantic quibble while not addressing the essential part?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Plus, the man who was shot by Brown is still alive but in critical condition. He admitted that this was a drug deal that went bad. There's no reason to believe conspiracy theories such as the police shot Brown, when there is no evidence that's what happened. Brown had a previous arrest related to drugs. It's a sad development, but the evidence supports the claim that the murder was due to a drug deal that went bad.

The police found marijuana, and THC cartridges in Brown's apartment after obtaining a search warrant. It's another tragedy. I assume the hospitalized man gave the names of the other two men to the police. He has been charged with capital murder. The other men will also be charged with capital murder once they are found.

When a cop is on trial for murdering my brother and I'm testifying for the prosecution, I sure do love to stash thousands of dollars of illegal drugs in my home, nothing suspicious about that, nor the famously On The Level Dallas Police Dept getting a confession out of someone facing life in prison if he doesn't cooperate

Business must go on even if they're testifying in a high profile case.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

What business do the cops have suddenly searching the house of an assault victim for anyway, especially when they can't be present? Conflict of interest, much?

When someone is murdered they go looking for why--and they often find information in their residence. Is it any surprise a judge would grant a warrant??

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It really isn't that interesting. Here is something that IS interesting, though:
You claim to be for legalization of prostitution and drugs and here's a black drug dealer and you are making a big deal out of it. So people should make a big deal out of illegal Johns, too, right? Should YOU be distrusted in Court?

Reality is that being a drug dealer is a dangerous job. That's one reason some of us are for legalization--to get rid of that violence. When is the last time you saw a shootout between rival alcohol dealers? (Answer: Prohibition.)

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It really isn't that interesting. Here is something that IS interesting, though:
You claim to be for legalization of prostitution and drugs and here's a black drug dealer and you are making a big deal out of it. So people should make a big deal out of illegal Johns, too, right? Should YOU be distrusted in Court?

Reality is that being a drug dealer is a dangerous job. That's one reason some of us are for legalization--to get rid of that violence. When is the last time you saw a shootout between rival alcohol dealers? (Answer: Prohibition.)

Being an illegal john is also dangerous. Not really relevant though. The point is it shouldn't make the victim less reliable than Derec in court.

 

[Metaphor]

Whether or not you have arrests is based on you being very very lucky and probably white privilege. If you were black, you'd likely have been arrested. So if you were unlucky, suddenly people shouldn't trust your testimony in court?

You appear to have missed the "and convictions" part.

No I did not. I completely addressed it. If not for Derec's luck and privilege, he'd be arrested and convicted. Why do you always semantic quibble while not addressing the essential part?

It isn't a semantic quibble, unless you think anybody who is arrested must also be convicted.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

No I did not. I completely addressed it. If not for Derec's luck and privilege, he'd be arrested and convicted. Why do you always semantic quibble while not addressing the essential part?

It isn't a semantic quibble, unless you think anybody who is arrested must also be convicted.

Jeebus.

 

[Metaphor]

These are your words:

Whether or not you have arrests is based on you being very very lucky and probably white privilege. If you were black, you'd likely have been arrested. So if you were unlucky, suddenly people shouldn't trust your testimony in court?

Own them or shut the fuck up.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

These are your words:

Whether or not you have arrests is based on you being very very lucky and probably white privilege. If you were black, you'd likely have been arrested. So if you were unlucky, suddenly people shouldn't trust your testimony in court?

Own them or shut the fuck up.

In context, it's addressed to Derec who we all know is guilty because he always writes about his guilt. And I was responding to Derec who wrote "arrests and convictions" and we were talking about illegal johns. The point being that since Derec advocates for legalization of drugs and prostitution, the only difference between Derec and the victim was luck. And I made that essential point several times.

You obviously only want to semantic quibble instead of addressing the larger, essential point that was asked of Derec, not you.

So you shut the fuck up.

 

[Metaphor]

These are your words:

Whether or not you have arrests is based on you being very very lucky and probably white privilege. If you were black, you'd likely have been arrested. So if you were unlucky, suddenly people shouldn't trust your testimony in court?

Own them or shut the fuck up.

In context, it's addressed to Derec who we all know is guilty because he always writes about his guilt.

You obviously only want to semantic quibble instead of addressing the larger, essential point that was asked of Derec, not you.

So you shut the fuck up.

If you meant "arrested and convicted" you ought have said "arrested and convicted". Don't you dare accuse other people of quibbling when your language is sloppy and seemingly deliberately so.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

In context, it's addressed to Derec who we all know is guilty because he always writes about his guilt.

You obviously only want to semantic quibble instead of addressing the larger, essential point that was asked of Derec, not you.

So you shut the fuck up.

If you meant "arrested and convicted" you ought have said "arrested and convicted". Don't you dare accuse other people of quibbling when your language is sloppy and seemingly deliberately so.

Should we not trust Derec as a murder witness in court? Yes or No?

 

[Metaphor]

These are your words:

Whether or not you have arrests is based on you being very very lucky and probably white privilege. If you were black, you'd likely have been arrested. So if you were unlucky, suddenly people shouldn't trust your testimony in court?

Own them or shut the fuck up.

In context, it's addressed to Derec who we all know is guilty because he always writes about his guilt. And I was responding to Derec who wrote "arrests and convictions" and we were talking about illegal johns. The point being that since Derec advocates for legalization of drugs and prostitution, the only difference between Derec and the victim was luck. And I made that essential point several times.

You obviously only want to semantic quibble instead of addressing the larger, essential point that was asked of Derec, not you.

So you shut the fuck up.

Don2, I am applying the same rules to you that are applied to me. If you meant that the only thing that has saved Derec from arrest and conviction is his white privilege, you ought have said it.

Also, despite you appearing to have an active and loving relationship with the negative reputation button, I did not accuse you of dishonesty. I said "you appear to have missed..." But I'll wear the negative reputation as a marker of pride. It's a sign you are not willing to publically admit you made a mistake.