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The arrested stormers speak out. And want to be pardoned. Its pure comedy. The guy with the horns is upset he doesn't get organic food in jail.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons

The real comedy lies with the Dems on tv screeching about insurrection, insurgency etc.

So you are saying there wasn't an inserection? How can the storming of the capitol be anything else? Their failure doesn't mean its not real
 

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Albert Watkins said his client had no criminal history and was an “active practitioner of yoga”. He also mentioned Chansley’s diet, which has caused him to reject non-organic meals in federal custody.

Vegan, yoga practitioner in fancy dress almost topples US government. Read all about it. 😂
 

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The arrested stormers speak out. And want to be pardoned. Its pure comedy. The guy with the horns is upset he doesn't get organic food in jail.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons

The real comedy lies with the Dems on tv screeching about insurrection, insurgency etc.

That's the comedy.

The tragedy is the Republicans instigating anti-American violence and assaulting basic American institutions.
Tom
 

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It doesn't have to be state sanction to be objectionable. Why even bring that into it?

Is this really a serious question? Why would you not hold power accountable?

Not holding power accountable does not follow from calling out the vandalism of an official's HOME. It's not contradictory to call out both.

Yes, state powers abusing citizens is way fucking more objectionable than minorities protesting being abused. WTF?

I'm not objecting to protest alone, I am objecting to deplorable acts of violence and noting that THEY DO NOTHING for their alleged cause, in fact they are setbacks to that cause.

I've said this many times, but every time it just floors me that there are people who actually cannot tell the difference between a bully abusing a kid all year and the kid finally fighting back. Literally cannot see a difference. Astounding.

That commissioner is your bully in this scenario? And the mostly young white men who commits these acts are the kids fighting back? "Astounding" does apply.
 
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Albert Watkins said his client had no criminal history and was an “active practitioner of yoga”. He also mentioned Chansley’s diet, which has caused him to reject non-organic meals in federal custody.

Vegan, yoga practitioner in fancy dress almost topples US government. Read all about it. ������

Well, Hhhh...i...i... |

Wait. There was this little guy once with a funny mustache who wanted to wipe out a whole humungous group of people, and he was a vegetarian? :shrug:
 

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Not holding power accountable does not follow from calling out the vandalism of an official's HOME. It's not contradictory to call out both.

Yes, state powers abusing citizens is way fucking more objectionable than minorities protesting being abused. WTF?

I'm not objecting to protest alone, I am objecting to deplorable acts of violence and noting that THEY DO NOTHING for their alleged cause, in fact they are setbacks to that cause.

I've said this many times, but every time it just floors me that there are people who actually cannot tell the difference between a bully abusing a kid all year and the kid finally fighting back. Literally cannot see a difference. Astounding.

That commissioner is your bully in this scenario? And the mostly young white men who commits these acts are the kids fighting back? "Astounding" does apply.

Seconded.

*turns his tail and flees...*
 

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The arrested stormers speak out. And want to be pardoned. Its pure comedy. The guy with the horns is upset he doesn't get organic food in jail.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons

The real comedy lies with the Dems on tv screeching about insurrection, insurgency etc.

So you are saying there wasn't an inserection? How can the storming of the capitol be anything else? Their failure doesn't mean its not real

Tswiz is a habitual denier of verifiable reality. He's a global warming truther, a covid truther, and now predictably an insurrection truther.

He probably also thinks Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch was just a harmless night of rowdy drinking.
 

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Not holding power accountable does not follow from calling out the vandalism of an official's HOME. It's not contradictory to call out both.

Yes, state powers abusing citizens is way fucking more objectionable than minorities protesting being abused. WTF?

I'm not objecting to protest alone, I am objecting to deplorable acts of violence and noting that THEY DO NOTHING for their alleged cause, in fact they are setbacks to that cause.

I've said this many times, but every time it just floors me that there are people who actually cannot tell the difference between a bully abusing a kid all year and the kid finally fighting back. Literally cannot see a difference. Astounding.

That commissioner is your bully in this scenario? And the mostly young white men who commits these acts are the kids fighting back? "Astounding" does apply.

None of that follows my comments. You asked "why bring that in"? Why bring in the difference between a group that has no state sanctioned power, no army or force of police? Because both sides are not the same. Even if they do have white allies, that doesn't mean they are state sanctioned. Having white allies at your protests doesn't mean the state (president, law enforcement, etc.) suddenly supports and protects you!

Seriously, I have no idea what your objection actually is to me stating the fact that corrupt states abusing citizens is far, far worse, than a minority group fighting back against state powers because of that abuse. You have to really twist things to justify getting defensive when someone points this out.

Both sides are not the same, but maybe you are one of those who feels comfortable in the assumption that you will never be treated unjustly by that "other side."
 
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The arrested stormers speak out. And want to be pardoned. Its pure comedy. The guy with the horns is upset he doesn't get organic food in jail.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons

The real comedy lies with the Dems on tv screeching about insurrection, insurgency etc.

To be precise, the comedy lies in the fact that Republicunts and Trumptards do try an insurrection, had unprecedented support from elements of law enforcement and are still such colossal fuckups their main accomplishment is that they caused more American deaths than Benghazi.
 

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More sick comedy: We've been lectured to, for four years now, about how Democrat mayors and governors are allowing a lawless spectacle to be enacted day after day in their towns and states without cracking down on them. Trump's malicious, racist dumbbells actually break in the doors and windows of Congress, beat a policeman to death, and he tells them they're very special and he loves them. How this party of the big lie and the even bigger hypocrisy struts about without losing all of its popular support -- well, that's a measure of America just now.
 

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The arrested stormers speak out. And want to be pardoned. Its pure comedy. The guy with the horns is upset he doesn't get organic food in jail.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons

The real comedy lies with the Dems on tv screeching about insurrection, insurgency etc.

To be precise, the comedy lies in the fact that Republicunts and Trumptards do try an insurrection, had unprecedented support from elements of law enforcement and are still such colossal fuckups their main accomplishment is that they caused more American deaths than Benghazi.

These people came within a whisker of toppling a government and destroying democracy!!!11!!11!!!!!!11.
 

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To be precise, the comedy lies in the fact that Republicunts and Trumptards do try an insurrection, had unprecedented support from elements of law enforcement and are still such colossal fuckups their main accomplishment is that they caused more American deaths than Benghazi.

These people came within a whisker of toppling a government and destroying democracy!!!11!!11!!!!!!11.

You should be more upset about it than sarcasm.
 

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To be precise, the comedy lies in the fact that Republicunts and Trumptards do try an insurrection, had unprecedented support from elements of law enforcement and are still such colossal fuckups their main accomplishment is that they caused more American deaths than Benghazi.

These people came within a whisker of toppling a government and destroying democracy!!!11!!11!!!!!!11.

But this is how all revolutions start. They start as a series of marches and demonstrations, ignoring calls to calm down until one of the marches at a key symbol of power turns violent. The police lose control and after that it all just spirals out of control. Every revolution seemingly comes out of nowhere and when successful it does so in spite of all odds.

Popular unrest can very quickly spiral out of control. Don't you remember the BLM riots and occupied city blocks? Once there's a popular insurrection it is very hard to control. Because there's very little the police can do. If they shoot the rebels it usually leads to the protests gaining in strength. It's a very delicate and hard to manage situation. And in this particular situation the still reigning president is in cahoots with the protesters.

You're foolish to underestimate the danger USA was in. Revolutions don't need a whole country to rise up. It only needs a couple of thousand protesters in the right places. Once it's gone past the point of no return it quickly falls apart.

That said I do think that most Americans think that QAnnon is a joke and would have had a hard time accepting to be ruled by them. But then again it was the same situation in Germany when Hitler took power, or in Italy when Mussolini took power. Mussolini's seizure of power is quite similar to the events on capitol hill. Most Italians ignored the fascists and thought they were nothing but deluded conspiracy theory lunatics.
 

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That said I do think that most Americans think that QAnnon is a joke and would have had a hard time accepting to be ruled by them. But then again it was the same situation in Germany when Hitler took power, or in Italy when Mussolini took power. Mussolini's seizure of power is quite similar to the events on capitol hill. Most Italians ignored the fascists and thought they were nothing but deluded conspiracy theory lunatics.

There are a lot of factions, though, not just the Qarens. There's also the Oathkeepers, Three Percenters, Proud Boys, various state militia conservolibertarian groups in the mid-west, north-west, and south-west, and then neo-confederate and outright racist groups from the south, and 80% of Trump supporters believe the election was stolen by Biden. There are a lot of individual Republicans, like veterans, police, or politicians who think it's part of their oath to the constitution to protect against domestic threats and they are told that is the Democrats, i.e. Communist Socialists! Immediately after the insurrection, there was a poll that found 45% of Republicans considered the riots to be justified, but now that their media is telling them it was Antifa, many of them are now not in favor of the insurrection. Obviously, they can quickly change their mind to become violent complicit, though, based on what they are told to think. It's hard to make a direct analogy to Hitler because of all the different factions, all of them together are maybe like the Nazis, and the Qarens are like the secret subset cabal of occultists who were in the Nazi Party.
 

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To be precise, the comedy lies in the fact that Republicunts and Trumptards do try an insurrection, had unprecedented support from elements of law enforcement and are still such colossal fuckups their main accomplishment is that they caused more American deaths than Benghazi.

These people came within a whisker of toppling a government and destroying democracy!!!11!!11!!!!!!11.

Being inept doesn't change the intent.
 

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To be precise, the comedy lies in the fact that Republicunts and Trumptards do try an insurrection, had unprecedented support from elements of law enforcement and are still such colossal fuckups their main accomplishment is that they caused more American deaths than Benghazi.

These people came within a whisker of toppling a government and destroying democracy!!!11!!11!!!!!!11.

Being inept doesn't change the intent.

Wow. I've been trying to express this concept so succinctly for years: that the intended probabilistic outcome is the arbiter of whether some action is evil, not the result, and that the socially understood probabilistics are the arbiter of whether there ought be explicit laws about the particular act.

If you take some action to overthrow the country and fully expect the action to absolutely lead to the outcome you wish, you have engaged in sedition, even if that act is burning incense in front of a pumpkin carved to Trump's likeness. It makes you a really dumb/idiotic seditionist to do so, but it still makes you one
 

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That said I do think that most Americans think that QAnnon is a joke and would have had a hard time accepting to be ruled by them. But then again it was the same situation in Germany when Hitler took power, or in Italy when Mussolini took power. Mussolini's seizure of power is quite similar to the events on capitol hill. Most Italians ignored the fascists and thought they were nothing but deluded conspiracy theory lunatics.

There are a lot of factions, though, not just the Qarens. There's also the Oathkeepers, Three Percenters, Proud Boys, various state militia conservolibertarian groups in the mid-west, north-west, and south-west, and then neo-confederate and outright racist groups from the south, and 80% of Trump supporters believe the election was stolen by Biden. There are a lot of individual Republicans, like veterans, police, or politicians who think it's part of their oath to the constitution to protect against domestic threats and they are told that is the Democrats, i.e. Communist Socialists! Immediately after the insurrection, there was a poll that found 45% of Republicans considered the riots to be justified, but now that their media is telling them it was Antifa, many of them are now not in favor of the insurrection. Obviously, they can quickly change their mind to become violent complicit, though, based on what they are told to think. It's hard to make a direct analogy to Hitler because of all the different factions, all of them together are maybe like the Nazis, and the Qarens are like the secret subset cabal of occultists who were in the Nazi Party.

It's been the same situation in any revolution ever. The opposition who topples a government is always fractured. After a revolution has succeeded in removing the current government things happen quickly and groups can come in from the side lines and take over completely. A good example is the Russian revolution. The Bolsheviks were an irrelevant extremist fringe group. The Mensheviks made a sensible but impopular play in the Duma, and the Bolsheviks exploited that and took over.

The French revolution was started by middle-class moderates. But due to a stupidly weighted voting system in the new parliament, the Jacobins took over, and extremist group on the left. Syrian revolution. Started by Middle-class moderates. Islamists took over. Exact same deal in the Arab spring in Egypt.

Nah, history is not on your side here.
 

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#BLMers at it again in Seattle. Blocking I-5. For no apparent reason.
12 arrested after highway blocked, ‘BLM’ painted on pavement in Seattle protest

They got arrested, but charges will likely be dismissed by friendly DA like most of charges related to #BLM riots have been. :(

Protesting is one thing. Blocking people and preventing them from free movement is quite another and should not be tolerated in a civilized society!
 

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More sick comedy: We've been lectured to, for four years now, about how Democrat mayors and governors are allowing a lawless spectacle to be enacted day after day in their towns and states without cracking down on them.
And we have been in turn lectured that this was righteous and understandable anger due to "racism" or "capitalism" and that the local politicians were right to dismiss criminal charges and to "give those who wish to destroy space to do that".
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Trump's malicious, racist dumbbells actually break in the doors and windows of Congress, beat a policeman to death, and he tells them they're very special and he loves them. How this party of the big lie and the even bigger hypocrisy struts about without losing all of its popular support -- well, that's a measure of America just now.

The #BLM rioting of the last 7 years and the mainstream left and mainstream media's tacit support of those riots led to conditions where the attack on the Capitol was possible in the first place.

When a leftist mob invaded and occupied the Capitol Hill neighborhood in Seattle, including taking over and trashing a police precinct, the hapless Mayor Jenny called it "Summer of Love" and in general was supportive of the occupation. Only after a few weeks did she authorize that the city take over that territory.

So is in light of the occupation of Capitol Hill in Seattle, Washington, was the attack on Capitol Hill in Washington DC all that surprising?
And of course, vast majority (if not all, I do not recalling anybody getting prosecuted for it) of Seattle Capitol Hill occupiers got away scot free.

Of course, the right wing dumbbells should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But so should left wing dumbbells when they riot or occupy city blocks like they did in Seattle and still doing in Portland.
Note that #BLM riots led to several dead and many injured cops.
 

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To be precise, the comedy lies in the fact that Republicunts and Trumptards do try an insurrection, had unprecedented support from elements of law enforcement

To quote the Law and Order intro, "In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: The police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders." The #BLM/Antifa may not have gotten much support from the police, but they certainly got buttloads of support from friendly prosecutors like Mike Schmidt of Multnomah County. Most cases against most rioters have been dismissed. And I wonder how friendly federal prosecutors will prove to be to them when Biden takes over. Will cases against for example Colinford Mathis and Urooj Rahman, two lawless lawyers who threw incendiary devices at a police cruiser and handed them over to others, be dismissed? I sure hope not, but we live in very uncertain times.
 

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Having white allies at your protests doesn't mean the state (president, law enforcement, etc.) suddenly supports and protects you!

I would say that when vast majority of criminal cases against #BLM and Antifa rioters get dismissed that they have support from the state.
 

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Vacaville City Hall, Police Station Vandalized After Demonstrators March From Park

Good Day Sacramento does not identify the vandals (I wonder why) except to point out that they left "anti-government and anti-police" graffiti.

Fox News is more explicit.

Protesters carrying BLM signs vandalize CA police station

Fox News said:
California's Vacaville Police Department was vandalized early Sunday night as an initially peaceful rally of almost 50 people in Andrews Park devolved into chaos.
Video cameras outside of the station captured black-clad demonstrators holding "f**k the police," "Black Lives Matter," and "ACAB" signs as they approached the doors.
The vandals broke a glass door at the station and spray-painted graffiti including "profane and threatening" messages about the police, according to a post on the department's Facebook page.

I guess attacking and vandalizing government buildings is ok now that it's the Left that's doing it again. :rolleyes:
 

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Having white allies at your protests doesn't mean the state (president, law enforcement, etc.) suddenly supports and protects you!

I would say that when vast majority of criminal cases against #BLM and Antifa rioters get dismissed that they have support from the state.

Of course you would say that, but it doesn't make it true.
 

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To quote the Law and Order intro, "In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: The police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders." The #BLM/Antifa may not have gotten much support from the police, but they certainly got buttloads of support from friendly prosecutors like Mike Schmidt of Multnomah County. Most cases against most rioters have been dismissed.

You say it's because of friendly prosecutors. How do you know it's that and not simply a matter of not having enough evidence to prosecute? Riots are chaotic. When police just start grabbing people off the street, it's hard to keep track of exactly what crime was committed by whom. You can't just walk into courtroom and say "Well, he was there. He must be guilty of something." But that's what you seem to be asking for.
 

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Riots are chaotic. When police just start grabbing people off the street, it's hard to keep track of exactly what crime was committed by whom.
Which is why it was SO nice of the rioters on 1-6 to film individual felonies.

But if a process Derec is not party to gets results he doesn't approve of, complicity justifies his anger more than complications. Because it really seems to me that he hates anyone getting privileges he cannot claim.
 

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To quote the Law and Order intro, "In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: The police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders." The #BLM/Antifa may not have gotten much support from the police, but they certainly got buttloads of support from friendly prosecutors like Mike Schmidt of Multnomah County. Most cases against most rioters have been dismissed.

You say it's because of friendly prosecutors. How do you know it's that and not simply a matter of not having enough evidence to prosecute? Riots are chaotic. When police just start grabbing people off the street, it's hard to keep track of exactly what crime was committed by whom. You can't just walk into courtroom and say "Well, he was there. He must be guilty of something." But that's what you seem to be asking for.

I actually don't think that's a problem anymore. Riots are always filmed nowadays and if the rioters are nabbed while at the demo it's pretty much an open and shut case. But if you're are masked and manage to avoid getting arrested, then I think you are pretty safe from prosecution. Though I doubt any of these ever made it to court. I'm not talking about the BLM riots. I'm only talking about a riot in Gothemburg where a lot of leftist protestors were arrested and fined. I took an interest in those cases. I suspect it'll be pretty much the same thing regardless of where in the world rioters are prosecuted.

I also strongly doubt prosecutors are ever "friendly". Their job is to try to nail any fucker for any law they can find. If they fail it's because they were stupid when they first pressed charges. It happens. Typically public prosecutors don't bother with pressing charges unless they know in advance they'll win.
 

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To quote the Law and Order intro, "In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: The police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders." The #BLM/Antifa may not have gotten much support from the police, but they certainly got buttloads of support from friendly prosecutors like Mike Schmidt of Multnomah County. Most cases against most rioters have been dismissed.

You say it's because of friendly prosecutors. How do you know it's that and not simply a matter of not having enough evidence to prosecute? Riots are chaotic. When police just start grabbing people off the street, it's hard to keep track of exactly what crime was committed by whom. You can't just walk into courtroom and say "Well, he was there. He must be guilty of something." But that's what you seem to be asking for.

I actually don't think that's a problem anymore. Riots are always filmed nowadays and if the rioters are nabbed while at the demo it's pretty much an open and shut case. But if you're are masked and manage to avoid getting arrested, then I think you are pretty safe from prosecution. Though I doubt any of these ever made it to court. I'm not talking about the BLM riots. I'm only talking about a riot in Gothemburg where a lot of leftist protestors were arrested and fined. I took an interest in those cases. I suspect it'll be pretty much the same thing regardless of where in the world rioters are prosecuted.

I also strongly doubt prosecutors are ever "friendly". Their job is to try to nail any fucker for any law they can find. If they fail it's because they were stupid when they first pressed charges. It happens. Typically public prosecutors don't bother with pressing charges unless they know in advance they'll win.

Oh, prosecutors are frequently friendly, when the "fucker" is a cop.
 

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To be precise, the comedy lies in the fact that Republicunts and Trumptards do try an insurrection, had unprecedented support from elements of law enforcement

To quote the Law and Order intro, "In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: The police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders." The #BLM/Antifa may not have gotten much support from the police, but they certainly got buttloads of support from friendly prosecutors like Mike Schmidt of Multnomah County. Most cases against most rioters have been dismissed. And I wonder how friendly federal prosecutors will prove to be to them when Biden takes over. Will cases against for example Colinford Mathis and Urooj Rahman, two lawless lawyers who threw incendiary devices at a police cruiser and handed them over to others, be dismissed? I sure hope not, but we live in very uncertain times.

Most cases are dismissed because the arrests never should have happened in the first place. The police use a bogus arrest to shut people up, especially these days when it might be a death sentence.
 

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Vacaville City Hall, Police Station Vandalized After Demonstrators March From Park

Good Day Sacramento does not identify the vandals (I wonder why) except to point out that they left "anti-government and anti-police" graffiti.

Fox News is more explicit.

Protesters carrying BLM signs vandalize CA police station

Fox News said:
California's Vacaville Police Department was vandalized early Sunday night as an initially peaceful rally of almost 50 people in Andrews Park devolved into chaos.
Video cameras outside of the station captured black-clad demonstrators holding "f**k the police," "Black Lives Matter," and "ACAB" signs as they approached the doors.
The vandals broke a glass door at the station and spray-painted graffiti including "profane and threatening" messages about the police, according to a post on the department's Facebook page.

I guess attacking and vandalizing government buildings is ok now that it's the Left that's doing it again. :rolleyes:

Note: "black-clad demonstrators". That's most likely not BLM, but the assholes that like to take advantage of protests.
 

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I actually don't think that's a problem anymore. Riots are always filmed nowadays and if the rioters are nabbed while at the demo it's pretty much an open and shut case. But if you're are masked and manage to avoid getting arrested, then I think you are pretty safe from prosecution. Though I doubt any of these ever made it to court. I'm not talking about the BLM riots. I'm only talking about a riot in Gothemburg where a lot of leftist protestors were arrested and fined. I took an interest in those cases. I suspect it'll be pretty much the same thing regardless of where in the world rioters are prosecuted.

I also strongly doubt prosecutors are ever "friendly". Their job is to try to nail any fucker for any law they can find. If they fail it's because they were stupid when they first pressed charges. It happens. Typically public prosecutors don't bother with pressing charges unless they know in advance they'll win.

Oh, prosecutors are frequently friendly, when the "fucker" is a cop.

Sure. But they are cops. Cops know how to game the system and avoid getting into trouble, even when they've fucked up. They know exactly what words and phrases to use when interrogated to get off. The interrogators also have an incentive to get the cops off, so they will participate in the charade. Since all the information the prosecutors uses to prosecute cops comes from the cops themselves, it's easy to see how this is the inevitable result.

That said, when reading actual court rulings in the court documents they often come across as sensible. Having little relationship to what the media writes about it. Tabloids love interpreting anything about cops in court as making the cops look bad. Which is what the newspapers should be doing. They are supposed to be harsh on the government representatives. But a lot of people who read this don't understand what is happening, and takes the news reporting as a fair representation of what is happening. People today feel too much and think too little when reading these news stories IMHO.
 

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Note: "black-clad demonstrators". That's most likely not BLM, but the assholes that like to take advantage of protests.
I don't see why it would not be #BLM. They also blocked a highway in Seattle for MLK Day. #BLM has a tendency to riot or block highways on MLK Day. A few years ago they blockaded a major bridge in the Bay Area.
Black Lives Matter protesters block San Francisco's Bay Bridge
Some of them were arrested, but a friendly judge dropped all the charges after a friendly prosecutor undercharged them. That emboldens these creeps to do it over and over again knowing that there will not be consequences. :rolleyes:


By the way, #BLMers also rioted in NYC for MLK day.

Dozens arrested in NYC as cops, protesters clash outside City Hall Park

NY Post said:
Police and Black Lives Matter protesters clashed outside City Hall Park on Monday night, resulting in dozens of arrests and several injured officers, authorities said.

The confrontation began at about 8:30 p.m. after hundreds of protesters who originally met outside the Barclays Center marched across the Brooklyn Bridge in a demonstration honoring Martin Luther King Jr., according to social media posts.
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Ten police officers were injured in the melee, sources said, and a captain was struck in the helmet with a bottle.
Police sources said one protester, who was arrested, swung a stick at an officer.

Nothing says "honoring MLK" like wanton violence. :rolleyes:

Also I guess attacking and injuring police is back to being a "progressive" value. It was nice having a consensus that violence against the police was bad, but I guess we all knew that would not last long past the 6th ...
 

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This time, let's go to California

Orange County rally organizer accused of running over Trump supporters faces new charges

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The organizer of a rally against police brutality who was charged with attempted murder last year after she allegedly plowed her car into counter-protesters, seriously injuring two people, now faces additional felony charges after a months-long review of the case, prosecutors said Wednesday.

Prosecutors plan to file two felony counts of assault with a deadly weapon against Tatiana Rita Turner, 40, of Long Beach during a court hearing next month, the Orange County district attorney’s office said in a news release.

The additional charges stem from allegations that she used a four-foot rod to repeatedly beat two men who were lying on the ground after they had been attacked by protesters at a Seal Beach demonstration against police brutality in August. The attack in Seal Beach left one of the victims with injuries to his head so severe they required staples, prosecutors said.

Or as Elixir would call it, "protesting for racial and social justice". :rolleyes:
 

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Or as Elixir would call it, "protesting for racial and social justice". :rolleyes:

you have no idea what I would call it, obviously.

Derec's link said:
Anti-racism rally organizer Tatiana Turner is facing additional charges in connection with rallies that turned violent in Yorba Linda and Seal Beach last year.

I would call her agitator. No evidence that there was a mob endorsing her actions. There isn't even any evidence that she intended to trash the National Capitol, overturn a free and fair national election, kill elected officials...

OTOH, here is your idea of "protesting for politcal justice".


What makes right wingers LESS concerned about that than about a black woman going nuts at a protest?
 

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Note: "black-clad demonstrators". That's most likely not BLM, but the assholes that like to take advantage of protests.
I don't see why it would not be #BLM. They also blocked a highway in Seattle for MLK Day. #BLM has a tendency to riot or block highways on MLK Day. A few years ago they blockaded a major bridge in the Bay Area.

BLM likes blocking things. The Black Bloc scum like damaging things.
 

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They also blocked a highway

That's far worse than trashing the nation's capitol in a violent attempt to overthrow a free and fair election, killing five people and threatening the lives of elected representatives. And it would be even worse if they had caused ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? while blocking a highway!
 

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They also blocked a highway

That's far worse than trashing the nation's capitol in a violent attempt to overthrow a free and fair election, killing five people and threatening the lives of elected representatives.
And it would be even worse if they had caused 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝖉𝖆𝖒𝖆𝖌𝖊 while blocking a highway!
 

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Or as Elixir would call it, "protesting for racial and social justice". :rolleyes:

you have no idea what I would call it, obviously.

Derec's link said:
Anti-racism rally organizer Tatiana Turner is facing additional charges in connection with rallies that turned violent in Yorba Linda and Seal Beach last year.

I would call her agitator. No evidence that there was a mob endorsing her actions. There isn't even any evidence that she intended to trash the National Capitol, overturn a free and fair national election, kill elected officials...

OTOH, here is your idea of "protesting for politcal justice".


What makes right wingers LESS concerned about that than about a black woman going nuts at a protest?

Well, she's black.

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Well, she's black.

She also seems to be a serial instigator of violence. Fuck her.
But double fuck Trump's insurrectionist MOB. They should be hung from their own gallows (without the spinal cord-breaking drop).
 

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Note: "black-clad demonstrators". That's most likely not BLM, but the assholes that like to take advantage of protests.
I don't see why it would not be #BLM. They also blocked a highway in Seattle for MLK Day. #BLM has a tendency to riot or block highways on MLK Day. A few years ago they blockaded a major bridge in the Bay Area.
Black Lives Matter protesters block San Francisco's Bay Bridge
Some of them were arrested, but a friendly judge dropped all the charges after a friendly prosecutor undercharged them. That emboldens these creeps to do it over and over again knowing that there will not be consequences. :rolleyes:


By the way, #BLMers also rioted in NYC for MLK day.

Dozens arrested in NYC as cops, protesters clash outside City Hall Park

NY Post said:
Police and Black Lives Matter protesters clashed outside City Hall Park on Monday night, resulting in dozens of arrests and several injured officers, authorities said.

The confrontation began at about 8:30 p.m. after hundreds of protesters who originally met outside the Barclays Center marched across the Brooklyn Bridge in a demonstration honoring Martin Luther King Jr., according to social media posts.
[...]
Ten police officers were injured in the melee, sources said, and a captain was struck in the helmet with a bottle.
Police sources said one protester, who was arrested, swung a stick at an officer.

Nothing says "honoring MLK" like wanton violence. :rolleyes:

Also I guess attacking and injuring police is back to being a "progressive" value. It was nice having a consensus that violence against the police was bad, but I guess we all knew that would not last long past the 6th ...

Well, if by "rioted" you mean "marched down a street while NYPD flipped out and attacked them repeatedly." I'd consider the two to be rather different, myself, since a "riot" implied that they were smashing windows and stealing from stores...which are hard to find on the Brooklyn Bridge.
 

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Man pleads guilty in Minneapolis precinct arson after George Floyd death

A St. Paul, Minnesota, man pleaded guilty Friday in a fire set inside a Minneapolis police precinct during protests and violent unrest following the death of George Floyd last year, prosecutors said.

Davon De-Andre Turner, 25, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit arson. He is the last of four people whose indictments were announced in August to plead guilty in the fires set in Third Precinct headquarters on May 28.

The fires were set as protesters shouted “burn it down, burn it down," and after a fence outside the building was torn down, according to court documents.


But burning down a police station is just fine as long as it's leftists doing it. After all, it's just "property damage" ... :rolleyes:
 

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Man pleads guilty in Minneapolis precinct arson after George Floyd death

A St. Paul, Minnesota, man pleaded guilty Friday in a fire set inside a Minneapolis police precinct during protests and violent unrest following the death of George Floyd last year, prosecutors said.

Davon De-Andre Turner, 25, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit arson. He is the last of four people whose indictments were announced in August to plead guilty in the fires set in Third Precinct headquarters on May 28.

The fires were set as protesters shouted “burn it down, burn it down," and after a fence outside the building was torn down, according to court documents.


But burning down a police station is just fine as long as it's leftists doing it. After all, it's just "property damage" ... :rolleyes:

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Man pleads guilty in Minneapolis precinct arson after George Floyd death

A St. Paul, Minnesota, man pleaded guilty Friday in a fire set inside a Minneapolis police precinct during protests and violent unrest following the death of George Floyd last year, prosecutors said.

Davon De-Andre Turner, 25, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit arson. He is the last of four people whose indictments were announced in August to plead guilty in the fires set in Third Precinct headquarters on May 28.

The fires were set as protesters shouted “burn it down, burn it down," and after a fence outside the building was torn down, according to court documents.


But burning down a police station is just fine as long as it's leftists doing it. After all, it's just "property damage" ... :rolleyes:
If it was just fine, he would not have been charged or a guilty plea accepted. Really, get a grip.
 
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