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Republican Candidate Says Bad Guys won WWII

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But, hey, don’t call us Nazis!
 
To be fair, the European Theatre was basically Hitler vs Stalin, and it's a stretch to call either any kind of "good".

The reason that Russians still call Ukrainians "Nazis" is that many felt that Hitler was preferable to Stalin, and chose to take up arms on the German side.

That choice seems odd to people raised on a million war movies, novels, comic books, and other tales in which Nazis are portrayed as the ultimate evil; But to a Ukrainian in 1941-2, before any of that post-war myth-building, it seemed very reasonable to support any invading army (particularly one that was clearly winning), against the regime that had killed millions of your countrymen, and likely many family members or friends, less than a decade earlier.

Lots of Ukrainians in 1941-45 were fighting for the Germans; Few were commited National Socialists, but all were commited anti-Stalinists, and if you wanted to fight Stalin, in Ukraine, in the early '40s, the Wehrmacht was the only game in town.

As always, it's dangerous to try to reduce a very complex history to a sound-bite.

Certainly, the "Good guys" won WWII, insofar as they liberated Western Europe. But equally, the "Bad guys" won WWII and imprisoned Eastern Europe.

Given that the UK and France started the war in order to free Poland, and that the US entered the European Theatre at the behest of the UK (and presumably therefore in pursuit of the UK's war goals), it is fair to say that the "Good guys" lost - though they lost not to Hitler, but to Stalin (who was Hitler's willing ally in the carving up of Poland from 1939-41).

I would presume political incompetence, rather than malicious support for Naziism, from Royce White in this case, based on the article.

Any candidate attempting to introduce nuance into a discussion of WWII is politically incompetent. Indeed, it seems foolhardy in the extreme for any US political candidate today to even talk about WWII, given that it was eighty years ago, and that the popular modern understanding of it is one of a black and white morality tale, in which the Noble Americans were stabbed in the back by the Evil Germans, who bombed Pearl Harbor, but then were smashed by the mighty US of A, with a tiny amount of help from the English, who kept a stiff upper lip and provided a staging post for the American led destruction of the Nazi hordes.

The Russians weren't even involved, probably, but if they were, they would obviously have been one of America's enemies. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
 
To be fair, the European Theatre was basically Hitler vs Stalin, and it's a stretch to call either any kind of "good".
A fair point, but considering this is Royce White we are talking about here (for context he played basketball with "Alex Jones was right" written on his head and once mistook a map of local drinking fountains as high crime hot spots), I don't think he was aiming for that sort of nuance when he posted that.

Just a guess...
 
once mistook a map of local drinking fountains as high crime hot spots
I do that a lot, so no blame.
But omfg when will they learn.
Wasn't the Herschel Walker Experiment enough?

Noble Americans were stabbed in the back by the Evil Germans, who bombed Pearl Harbor, but then were smashed by the mighty US of A, with a tiny amount of help from the English, who kept a stiff upper lip and provided a staging post for the American led destruction of the Nazi hordes.
Uh? I thought Imperialist Americans chose to intervene in a squabble between England and Germany, which enticed Japan to Bomb America.
The Germans wanted to enforce peace throughout Europe and Asia, and a little bit of Africa. Our interference is why the Germans had to retreat into Russia where they froze to death. And that is why there is turmoil throughout Europe today, and we owe the Germans AND the Russians* a great big apology for the bombings and the intrusion.

* Especially the Russians.
MAGA
 
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The Germans wanted to enforce peace throughout Europe and Asia, and a little bit of Africa.
I don't want war. All I want is peace. Peace. Peace!

A little piece of Poland, a little piece of France,
A little piece of Portugal, and Austria perchance,
A little slice of Turkey, and all that that entails,
Und then a piece of England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales...
 
Royce White had zero chance of beating the incumbent, Senator Amy Klobuchar. He is a "DEI" candidate in the same light as Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson. And, he is no more unhinged than the head of the Republican ticket.
 
Technically he said:
The bad guys won in WWII. There were no ‘good guys’ in that war. The controlling interests had a jump ball. If you look closely, you see the link between liberalism and communism in the Allied forces.
Honestly, I have no idea what he meant. "The controlling interests"?

Also seems unaware of the Pacific theater.
 
His Twitter profile had him self-described as antisemitic, sexist, and transphobic.
A true brother to Mark ("I'm a black Nazi") Robinson.
Who is the GOP turning down, when they pick these guys? I wanna see what the rejects are like.
 
Technically he said:
The bad guys won in WWII. There were no ‘good guys’ in that war. The controlling interests had a jump ball. If you look closely, you see the link between liberalism and communism in the Allied forces.
Honestly, I have no idea what he meant. "The controlling interests"?

Also seems unaware of the Pacific theater.
The "link" - or rather the complete absence thereof - between liberalism and communism in the allied forces can be readily seen in the response by Churchill to the German attack on the Soviet Union:

No one has been a more consistent opponent of Communism for the last twenty-five years. I will unsay no word I have spoken about it. But all this fades away before the spectacle which is now unfolding. The past, with its crimes, its follies, its tragedies, flashes away.… The Russian danger is therefore our danger, and the danger of the United States, just as the cause of any Russian fighting for hearth and house is the cause of free men and free peoples in every quarter of the globe.

He went on to say:

If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.

Hardly a ringing endorsement of Communism. The leader of the one remaining liberal democratic opponent to totalitarianism on the European continent, speaking six months before the end of US official neutrality, having finally, after two years of war, been handed an ally against the most pressing threat faced by his country, directly refers to the despised leader of his new ally as "the devil", after reminding everyone that not only has he opposed communism with a passion for many years, but that the change in circumstances in no way changes his low opinion of that political ideology.

(Note also his inclusion of the then neutral United States in his address. This is a man who is happy to take any assistance he can get, and who will use any opportunity to increase the pressure he is putting on the US to join the war as an ally of the UK; His remarks are not directed only at his nominal audience, the British public, they are also another opportunity to prod the US congress into recognising the dangers inherent in isolationism).
 
I see no reason to parse his understanding of history. He was a college jock, left Iowa State for the NBA after his sophomore year. This is not a guy who has been on any serious academic track. Like Trump -- try to find any depth of thought in Trump's musings on Gettysburg earlier this year (or his Continental Army/airports insanity) and you end up with what a lazy 7th grader might say, on being caught out on not doing his required reading.
 
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