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It's about the very real threat to the European identity of Europe
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One morning - who knows? Perhaps Europeans will wake up to find that their precious European identity is no longer European, but middle eastern! Or, worse yet, what if they turn Japanese???
OH NOOOoooes! Woe is us.

Okay smart guy. How come Japanese don’t have to suffer from becoming Indian or Chilean?
 
It's the sheer inanity of your approach that amuses. How many murders were there in the USA last year?
A lot. What does that have to do with the fact that the media, this forum and even the Biden/Garland DOJ is treating politically motivated crimes very differently based on whether they were motivated by left- or right wing Ideologies.

Yet you delight in cherry-picked anecdotes.
If I am then so is Zipr starting this thread. You can't have it both ways.
Hridindu Sankar Roychowdhury -- with a name like that, how can your movement not hate on him?[/quote]
I think you are projecting.

-- was sent to stir for ten years for a non-intentional homicide, twice the minimum. For you this is "hypocrisy" -- he should have been crucified or whatever the worst punishment is in post-rational Amerika.
I think you have mistaken him with Montez Lee. It was Lee who committed a deadly arson with political motivation and got 10 years, well below federal sentencing guidelines because one of Garland's prosecutor argued that because he committed arson due to his #BLM ideology, he should get a light sentence.
Judge goes below guidelines, gives 10-year term to man who set deadly Lake St. fire during unrest

Contrast that with this case:
A man who set a fire at an Illinois Planned Parenthood clinic sentenced to 10 years in prison
Same sentence as the killer arsonist, even though nobody got injured, much less killed.
Just because of their politics. That's some banana republic bullshit! Criminal prosecution and sentencing should not be based on whether the federal prosecutor and their boss, the attorney general, agree with the criminal's politics.
Meanwhile, cowards like Kyle the Teenybopper
There is nothing to indicate Ritt was a "coward". He defended himself from attack by three Antifa thugs, two of them convicted felons and one of them a child molester with a death wish.
The Kenosha case was textbook self-defense. The hipster doofus prosecutor should never have brought it to trial.
And let's not forget that the Kenosha riots that precipitated this whole thing were based on a series of lies, as #BLM riots usually are. The Jacob Blake shooting was 100% justified.
or Zimmerman are acquitted and you applaud "justice",
That was a less textbook case than Rittenhouse, but still the evidence presented at trial showed that it was likely self defense. Z had injuries to the back of his head, consistent with being pummeled against the pavement, and Trayvon had abrasions on his knuckles consistent with giving somebody a dose of whoop-ass. So yes, most likely Trayvon attacked Z and Z defended himself.
and conveniently ignore these counterexamples to your hypocrisy thesis.
Not counterexamples. Both were prosecuted vigorously even though the facts were on the defendant's side. And media as well as most posters on here were firmly on the side of Trayvon and the Antifa thugs (Rosenbaum, Huber and Grosskreutz) respectively.

But keep it up please! We're well past the exasperation stage in this dark comedy; posts like yours are just for the laughs.
Goes more for your posts. Especially when you are so off base on facts.
 
Description of this smiley is "hysterical" and that describes you well.

One morning - who knows? Perhaps Europeans will wake up to find that their precious European identity is no longer European, but middle eastern! Or, worse yet, what if they turn Japanese???
OH NOOOoooes! Woe is us.
Japanese are not sending millions of bogus asylum seekers into Europe who then have 5-10 children each, as is Muslim custom.
 
A lot. What does that have to do with the fact that the media, this forum and even the Biden/Garland DOJ is treating politically motivated crimes very differently based on whether they were motivated by left- or right wing Ideologies.
Reactionary balderdash (see below)

I think you have mistaken him with Montez Lee. It was Lee who committed a deadly arson with political motivation and got 10 years, well below federal sentencing guidelines because one of Garland's prosecutor argued that because he committed arson due to his #BLM ideology, he should get a light sentence.
Judge goes below guidelines, gives 10-year term to man who set deadly Lake St. fire during unrest

Contrast that with this case:
A man who set a fire at an Illinois Planned Parenthood clinic sentenced to 10 years in prison
Same sentence as the killer arsonist, even though nobody got injured, much less killed.
Just because of their politics. That's some banana republic bullshit! Criminal prosecution and sentencing should not be based on whether the federal prosecutor and their boss, the attorney general, agree with the criminal's politics.
Different prosecutors, different states. Mr Lee's prosecutor did not argue for a reduced sentence due to his #BLM ideology but you have presented evidence to consistent with bigotry. Mr. Lee did not intend to kill anyone and burned down a pawn shop. Mr. Masengill threw a Molotov cocktail at a health care facility depriving potential clients access to health care services.

Now, I think Mr. Lee deserved a harsher sentence than he received because he did cause the death of someone. I think Mr. Masengill deserved a harsher sentence than he received, because not only did he deprive potential clients of health care services but he may have intimidated women from going to Planned Parenthood.

There is nothing to indicate Ritt was a "coward". He defended himself from attack by three Antifa thugs, two of them convicted felons and one of them a child molester with a death wish.
The Kenosha case was textbook self-defense. The hipster doofus prosecutor should never have brought it to trial.
And let's not forget that the Kenosha riots that precipitated this whole thing were based on a series of lies, as #BLM riots usually are. The Jacob Blake shooting was 100% justified.
More reactionary bigoted balderdash. Only cowards, criminals or police carry weapons to a protest. Mr. Ritt is not a police officer, so there is something to indicate he is either a coward or a criminal.
 
Reactionary balderdash (see below)
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Different prosecutors, different states.
Both federal prosecutions, so different states doesn't matter.
Different prosecutors, yes, but the same boss - Merrick Garland. He is the one who sets DOJ policy and who could have, if he wanted, rebuked and disciplined the Montez Lee prosecutor for politicizing the case.
Mr Lee's prosecutor did not argue for a reduced sentence due to his #BLM ideology but you have presented evidence to consistent with bigotry.
Of course he has. He was open about that. You can read the original document. He is excusing and minimizing Lee's behavior because he is a #BLMer.
No bigotry here, just plenty of willful ignorance on your side.
Only cowards, criminals or police carry weapons to a protest.
[citation needed]
Mr. Ritt is not a police officer, so there is something to indicate he is either a coward or a criminal.
Many people on your side carried weapons, including rifles, to protests. Are they all cowards and criminals or just those who are opposed to #BLMers burning down businesses, court houses and museums?
 
Both federal prosecutions, so different states doesn't matter.
Different prosecutors, yes, but the same boss - Merrick Garland. He is the one who sets DOJ policy and who could have, if he wanted, rebuked and disciplined the Montez Lee prosecutor for politicizing the case.
Of course it matters. Different states have different cultures and different ways of looking at the world. You've presented no evidence the case was "politicized" in the normal understanding of the word.

Of course he has. He was open about that. The only "bigotry" is on your side.
The prosecutor did not mention #BLM - perhaps all that rocking of your #BLM hobby horse has addled your reading comprehension?

Many people on your side carried weapons, including rifles, to protests. Are they all cowards and criminals or just those who are opposed to #BLMers
Why on earth are you babbling about "my side"? My statement is clear and unequivocal - there were no exceptions. It does appear that all that rocking of your #BLM hobby horse has addled your reading comprehension.
 
Of course it matters.
Again, both of these were federal prosecutions using federal laws and federal sentencing guidelines.
Different states have different cultures and different ways of looking at the world.
That would be the beginning of an argument if these were state prosecutions. But again, these were federal cases.
Also, are you arguing that Minnesota has a "culture" tolerant of killing people in politically motivated arson?

You've presented no evidence the case was "politicized" in the normal understanding of the word.
I have presented such evidence, in the form of the memorandum in the Lee case where the prosecutor argued for leniency based on Lee's #BLM politics. That you refuse to read it or are unwilling and/or incapable of understanding it is a different matter altogether.

The prosecutor did not mention #BLM - perhaps all that rocking of your #BLM hobby horse has addled your reading comprehension?
He mentioned the riot that Montez Lee participated in. You are seriously lacking reading comprehension if you cannot understand what riot (or "protest") he meant.

Why on earth are you babbling about "my side"?
Far leftists. Like Warlord Raz and his goons who took over several city blocks in Seattle for weeks with armed force but were never prosecuted.
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Or various black militias that marched all over the place in 2020. You (or Swammerdami, or Elixir) never say anything against them. But plenty against Rittenhouse who defended himself against physical attacks by your boys.

My statement is clear and unequivocal - there were no exceptions.
So why do you never say anything against Warlord Raz or Huey Newton Gun Club or the New Black Panther Party? You are not fooling anybody.
 
That was a less textbook case than Rittenhouse, but still the evidence presented at trial showed that it was likely self defense. Z had injuries to the back of his head, consistent with being pummeled against the pavement, and Trayvon had abrasions on his knuckles consistent with giving somebody a dose of whoop-ass. So yes, most likely Trayvon attacked Z and Z defended himself.
JFC, injuries have absolutely no bearing on who started a fight. Bullies that start fights get beat down all the time when they mess with the wrong person. You're grasping at straws. Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend when he was attacked, this was testified in court. Given Zimmerman's behavior after he was acquitted it's pretty obvious he's a racist bully.
 
But that’s not illegal. Nosiree, not in Murka!
Unironically this. Being an asshole does not preclude somebody from exercising self defense.
And his behavior after he defended himself certainly cannot retroactively negate his self defense.
 
JFC, injuries have absolutely no bearing on who started a fight.
Of course they have bearing. They are evidence. Things like abrasions on knuckles, that Trayvon had but Z did not indicate that it was T who hit Z, and that Z did not hit T. That is also consistent with the injuries to Z's head. Other than abrasions on his knuckles (which are evidence of him hitting Z) and the gunshot wound, there are no other injuries on T.
Bullies that start fights get beat down all the time when they mess with the wrong person.
What do you mean by "start fights"? Hit somebody or merely do something to provoke somebody by e.g. following that somebody? There was no evidence Z hit T.
You're grasping at straws.
No, you are.
Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend when he was attacked, this was testified in court.
There was no evidence Z attacked T. Yes, he followed him. But that's not the same.

Given Zimmerman's behavior after he was acquitted it's pretty obvious he's a racist bully.
He may be a bully (doubt the "racist" part which is overused these days), and he certainly behaved poorly after the acquittal.
But bullies can still be attacked and have a legitimate claim to self defense. So can assholes. And later behavior does not invalidate self defense retroactively.
 
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Or various black militias that marched all over the place in 2020. You (or Swammerdami, or Elixir) never say anything against them. But plenty against Rittenhouse who defended himself against physical attacks by your boys.
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Or various white militias that marched all over the place in 2020. You never say anything against them.
 
JFC, injuries have absolutely no bearing on who started a fight.
Of course they have bearing. They are evidence. Things like abrasions on knuckles, that Trayvon had but Z did not indicate that it was T who hit Z, and that Z did not hit T. That is also consistent with the injuries to Z's head. Other than abrasions on his knuckles (which are evidence of him hitting Z) and the gunshot wound, there are no other injuries on T.
Again, the injuries have no bearing upon who started the fight.

Bullies that start fights get beat down all the time when they mess with the wrong person.
What do you mean by "start fights"? Hit somebody or merely do something to provoke somebody by e.g. following that somebody? There was no evidence Z hit T.
There is evidence Z attacked M. M's girlfriend testified to that effect.

You're grasping at straws.
No, you are.
Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend when he was attacked, this was testified in court.
There was no evidence Z attacked T. Yes, he followed him. But that's not the same.

Given Zimmerman's behavior after he was acquitted it's pretty obvious he's a racist bully.
He may be a bully (doubt the "racist" part which is overused these days), and he certainly behaved poorly after the acquittal.
But bullies can still be attacked and have a legitimate claim to self defense. So can assholes. And later behavior does not invalidate self defense retroactively.
So now you're defending bullies.
 
Derec said:
I have presented such evidence, in the form of the memorandum in the Lee case where the prosecutor argued for leniency based on Lee's #BLM politics. That you refuse to read it or are unwilling and/or incapable of understanding it is a different matter altogether.
The fact you think anyone protesting about police violence against black people is necessarily #BLM says volumes about your irrational obsession.

Derec said:
He mentioned the riot that Montez Lee participated in. You are seriously lacking reading comprehension if you cannot understand what riot (or "protest") he meant.
See comment above.

Derec said:
Far leftists. Like Warlord Raz and his goons who took over several city blocks in Seattle for weeks with armed force but were never prosecuted.
NINTCHDBPICT000588630535-2.jpg

Or various black militias that marched all over the place in 2020. You (or Swammerdami, or Elixir) never say anything against them. But plenty against Rittenhouse who defended himself against physical attacks by your boys.
More babble about my side.

Derec said:
So why do you never say anything against Warlord Raz or Huey Newton Gun Club or the New Black Panther Party? You are not fooling anybody.
I don’t say anything about most people, especially ones I have never heard about. Using your standard, Donald Trump is your boy.
 
Black militias all over the place yet, nobody shot by them? Whereas an innocent white boy grabs an AR , hops a ride interstate with his mom, goes into a crowd with his long gun phallic symbol, then kills people trying to disarm him. Poor guy, right?
Only in the warped and irrationally terrified little minds of RW extremists.
 
A US shop owner was shot dead after a dispute over a Pride flag displayed outside her business, police say.
Laura Ann Carleton, 66, was found with a bullet wound at her Mag Pi shop in Cedar Glen, California, on Friday.
A suspect - who fled the scene on foot - was killed by police when found nearby, allegedly still armed.
Ms Carleton was described as a "wonderful friend" by Hollywood director Paul Feig, who posted an image of them together.
The suspect made "disparaging remarks" about the rainbow flag before shooting the victim, police said. She was pronounced dead at the scene.
 
Sept 29 (Reuters) - A New Mexico man was charged with attempted murder for allegedly shooting a demonstrator at a protest over plans to reinstall a statue of a Spanish conquistador in the north of the state, police said.

Twenty-three-year-old Ryan Martinez of Sandia Park was arrested on Thursday after he shot a 42-year-old man while attempting to disrupt a peaceful protest at a civic center in Espanola, state police said in a statement.

The wounded man, identified by family as Native American climate activist Jacob Johns of Seattle, was in critical condition at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque awaiting surgery, said Mateo Peixinho, an organizer for the protest rally.
 
Meanwhile, back in Washinton D.C...

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Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee is pushing for congress to add more protection against hate crimes inspired by white supremacy. The "Leading Against White Supremacy Act of 2023 (LAWS) was presented to Congress this month, but the bill faced a lot of criticism.

The LAWS Act is intended to "prevent and prosecute white supremacy-inspired hate crime, and conspiracy to commit white supremacy-inspired hate crime, and to amend Title 18, to expand the scope of hate crimes."

Several conservative lawmakers have criticized Jackson Lee on the language in the bill and said it violates freedom of speech."
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