barbos
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So there are no gays in US prisons? I find that hard to believe.
And singers, I fairly certain that most prison inmates can sing.
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And singers, I fairly certain that most prison inmates can sing.
barbos
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No, he did not, Left-Wing media mis-translated what he said. And while we at it, Alfa-Bank story was a total fabrication as well. If i was Trump adviser I would have advised to investigate that story.
barbos
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Well, it's a matter of degree.
Koyaanisqatsi
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Here's a fun tidbit I hadn't seen before (and also just posted in my Russian influence thread):
So the much touted "Comey effect" was evidently also the direct result of the Russian information warfare machine. As Nate Silver noted:
So the much touted "Comey effect" was evidently also the direct result of the Russian information warfare machine. As Nate Silver noted:
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[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQQPNQ0PFSc[/YOUTUBE]
Where did you get that from? (my wild guess - a Fox guest). Explain, then, why, when Putin was asked IF he preferred Trump over Clinton, he nodded while he said one or two words that were translated as "yes, I did and do".
I think you may be confused with the bad Trump-to-English translation during that same event when he said he "would see why..." but it was "mistranslated" by "left-wing media" as "wouldn't see why..."
The moral of the story is to continue not believing in your lying, disgusting, eyes.
Elixir
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Poor Barbie... I actually know two people who speak and understand Russian at least as well as you do, and no... "left wing media" did NOT mis-translate him.
Which leads me to believe that there is much about Alpha Bank that bears investigation.
lpetrich
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Trump Fumes Over Rex Tillerson's Claim That Putin Out-Prepared Him | HuffPost
Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Rex Tillerson, a man who is “dumb as a rock” and totally ill prepared and ill equipped to be Secretary of State, made up a story (he got fired) that I was out-prepared by Vladimir Putin at a meeting in Hamburg, Germany. I don’t think Putin would agree. Look how the U.S. is doing!"
What provoked this outburst?
Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Rex Tillerson, a man who is “dumb as a rock” and totally ill prepared and ill equipped to be Secretary of State, made up a story (he got fired) that I was out-prepared by Vladimir Putin at a meeting in Hamburg, Germany. I don’t think Putin would agree. Look how the U.S. is doing!"
What provoked this outburst?
He also criticized Jared Kushner for not being willing to learn his way around in foreign affairs.
barbos
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Dude, I am a native russian speaker.
And, no, not Fox news, ordinary sane news agencies which corrected themselves rather quickly
barbos
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LOL, sorry dude, I am right and you are wrong, most sane agencies corrected themselves Only brain dead ones kept insisting on this stupidity
Elixir
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You are quite stupid to expect anyone to believe you over these people, which includes every major news outlet in the country, left, right and center:
Putin says he wanted Trump to win
Politico
The Hill
Business Insider
The Atlantic
Snopes (fact checker)
WaPo
CNN
NBC
Boston.com
ABC
Fox5dc
Bloomberg.com
Newsweek
Huffpo
GQ
NPR
...and many more.
All agree - notice that even fox subsidiaries are in the mix.
Get your head out of your ass, and admit that you are wrong. Repeating a lie, contrary to Tump's SOP, does not make it true.
barbos
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Fuck you and your dishonest bullshit.
That's not what it was about. It was about retarded left-wing talking heads claiming that Putin admitted directing his people to help Trump to win.
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So it happened. He just didn't admit to it, eh?
barbos
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You are good. Should apply for a job at MSNBC
Koyaanisqatsi
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As should you, because it doesn't really matter whether or not Putin openly admitted any such thing. It is established fact that he did direct his people to help Trump win.
barbos
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Apparently it did matter to left-wing talking heads.
Koyaanisqatsi
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Because their job is to report the news. Having Putin confirm--or even appear to confirm--that he specifically wanted Trump to win is obviously news, particularly at a point when Trump kept denying that there was any interference at all by Russia.
Elixir
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Oooh. Struck a nerve, I see.
You are asking everyone here to believe that Pootey doesn't direct people to do what they can to get him what he wants.
You must be some REALLY special kind of stupid, barbie. Fuck you and your toddler-level propaganda attempts.
... and the right-wing talking heads, and the centrist talking heads, and everyone else except BARBIE!
Putin says he wanted Trump to win
Politico
The Hill
Business Insider
The Atlantic
Snopes (fact checker)
WaPo
CNN
NBC
Boston.com
ABC
Fox5dc
Bloomberg.com
Newsweek
Huffpo
GQ
NPR
...and many more.
You need to go back to IRA and take some more propagandizing lessons - you aren't even up to level=FAIL.
Copernicus
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It really isn't worth pursuing barbos on this, because all Putin clearly admitted to in Helsinki was that he wanted Trump to win because of his pro-Russia stance. AFAICT, he did not admit that he directed his people to help elect Trump. The problem is that a reporter asked him in English:
However, Putin inserted his earpiece at the start of the question and was listening to a Russian translation of the question. It would have been stupid for him to answer affirmatively to the second part of that question, so it is hard to believe that he was addressing it. Rather, he really appeared to respond only to the first part--whether he just wanted Trump to win. He did not begin to respond until the reporter finished talking, but notice that his reply was immediate, not delayed. If he were responding to the second half of the question, then there would have been a delay for him to hear the Russian translation. Putin does understand English perfectly well, but he is careful to use a translator in situations where there could be consequences in what he says. To me, the most plausible interpretation of that event was that he heard the first part of the sentence in Russian while the second part was being spoken in English by the reporter in the audience. He then responded immediately to what he heard in Russian, not English. What he said in Russian was "ДА Я ХОТЕЛ ЧТО БЫ ОН (ВЫИГРАЛ)...", which is literally "YES I WANTED HIM TO (WIN)..." I put parentheses around the part where the voice-over in English started to obscure his Russian reply, and I have not been able to find the Russian transcript of what he continued to say.
Anyway, listen for yourself, and decide whether you agree with my perception:
[YOUTUBE]1O1piTvGt_A[/YOUTUBE]
However, Putin inserted his earpiece at the start of the question and was listening to a Russian translation of the question. It would have been stupid for him to answer affirmatively to the second part of that question, so it is hard to believe that he was addressing it. Rather, he really appeared to respond only to the first part--whether he just wanted Trump to win. He did not begin to respond until the reporter finished talking, but notice that his reply was immediate, not delayed. If he were responding to the second half of the question, then there would have been a delay for him to hear the Russian translation. Putin does understand English perfectly well, but he is careful to use a translator in situations where there could be consequences in what he says. To me, the most plausible interpretation of that event was that he heard the first part of the sentence in Russian while the second part was being spoken in English by the reporter in the audience. He then responded immediately to what he heard in Russian, not English. What he said in Russian was "ДА Я ХОТЕЛ ЧТО БЫ ОН (ВЫИГРАЛ)...", which is literally "YES I WANTED HIM TO (WIN)..." I put parentheses around the part where the voice-over in English started to obscure his Russian reply, and I have not been able to find the Russian transcript of what he continued to say.
Anyway, listen for yourself, and decide whether you agree with my perception:
[YOUTUBE]1O1piTvGt_A[/YOUTUBE]
barbos
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These stupid shitheads reported something that did not actually happen.