Seth Rich, was he the DNC leaker?

[tupac chopra]

So it's impossible that Seth Rich was the leaker? Impossible?

You are smart enough to know that this question doesn't do well for your case. It makes you sound like any Alex Jones follower.

No it does not.

1. We know it was a disgruntled DNC insider from Craig Murray.
2.Julian Assange basically told us it was Seth Rich
3. Kim Dotcom told us it was Seth Rich, and offered to come to the USA to testify.

No one one here has given any reason why it could not have been Seth Rich. I thought this forum was about logic evidence and reason

Seth Rich must be the main suspect.

As a non American I guess I'll just grab my popcorn, and watch the hysterical denials while no one gives any reason why it could not have been him

 

[Bronzeage]

If you can't trust Julian Assange, who can you trust?

If, just for the sake of argument, that Seth was the leak, Hilary Clinton is the last person who would want him dead. While he breathed, Seth was a direct link to the right wing dirty tricks which plagued the campaign. Imagine Seth testifying before a Federal Grand Jury, telling to whom he gave the emails and his motivation.

As this plays out, it's the dirty tricksters who need him to keep silent, not the Clintons.

 

[blastula]

You are smart enough to know that this question doesn't do well for your case. It makes you sound like any Alex Jones follower.

No it does not.

1. We know it was a disgruntled DNC insider from Craig Murray.
2.Julian Assange basically told us it was Seth Rich
3. Kim Dotcom told us it was Seth Rich, and offered to come to the USA to testify.

Airtight case you got there. Hard to find a better lineup of witnesses.

No one one here has given any reason why it could not have been Seth Rich. I thought this forum was about logic evidence and reason

Not disproven does not equal proven, except to the logic of conspiracy theorists or Putinistas.

Seth Rich must be the main suspect.

As a non American I guess I'll just grab my popcorn, and watch the hysterical denials while no one gives any reason why it could not have been him

Right, you're as disinterested as these guys.

Russian Embassy, UK‏Verified account @RussianEmbassy

#WikiLeaks informer Seth Rich murdered in US but

MSM was so busy accusing Russian hackers to take notice.
7:13 AM - 19 May 2017

 

[tupac chopra]

If you can't trust Julian Assange, who can you trust?

Do you have any instance he lied?

If, just for the sake of argument, that Seth was the leak, Hilary Clinton is the last person who would want him dead.

Who mentioned Hillary Clinton??

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No it does not.

1. We know it was a disgruntled DNC insider from Craig Murray.
2.Julian Assange basically told us it was Seth Rich
3. Kim Dotcom told us it was Seth Rich, and offered to come to the USA to testify.

Airtight case you got there. Hard to find a better lineup of witnesses.

No one said it was airtight. Just worth noting.

 

[tupac chopra]

Not disproven does not equal proven, except to the logic of conspiracy theorists or Putinistas.

You name calling just shows you don't really have any reason why it could not have been Seth Rich

 

[Cobalt]

As a non American I guess I'll just grab my popcorn, and watch the hysterical denials while no one gives any reason why it could not have been him

Is that how things work in your part of the world? That's unfortunate.

 

[tupac chopra]

As a non American I guess I'll just grab my popcorn, and watch the hysterical denials while no one gives any reason why it could not have been him

Is that how things work in your part of the world? That's unfortunate.

Why? While it's unfortunate a man was murdered, what else can one do but watch curiously at the whole Democrat Rebublican circus

 

[blastula]

Not disproven does not equal proven, except to the logic of conspiracy theorists or Putinistas.

You name calling just shows you don't really have any reason why it could not have been Seth Rich

Repeating this logic fail again doesn't make it any more rational the second time. There are probably millions of people for which that is true - inability to rule out the person. However, the burden proof is on the accuser.





The only reason Rich is named by anybody is because he was murdered and worked for the DNC. That's all that is needed by the conspiracy theorist or the propagandist. Truth be dammed, and gratuitous pain of a victim's family be embraced.





If you don't like the word Putinista, give me a better label for hack Putin apologists.

 

[Cobalt]

Is that how things work in your part of the world? That's unfortunate.

Why? While it's unfortunate a man was murdered, what else can one do but watch curiously at the whole Democrat Rebublican circus

It's unfortunate that you're seemingly accustomed to people being guilty until proven innocent.

 

[Ford]

The only reason Rich is named by anybody is because he was murdered and worked for the DNC.

The only reason anyone beyond his family and the police investigating his death know about him is because there's a dedicated campaign afoot to make Seth Rich the biggest distraction of the moment. Distraction from the Russian effort to upend the US election. Distraction from the Russians. People are being paid to promote this story.

 

[tupac chopra]

The only reason Rich is named by anybody is because he was murdered and worked for the DNC.

The only reason anyone beyond his family and the police investigating his death know about him is because there's a dedicated campaign afoot to make Seth Rich the biggest distraction of the moment. Distraction from the Russian effort to upend the US election. Distraction from the Russians. People are being paid to promote this story.

Well the story has been around for quite a while, but are you really thinking KimDotCom is part of some global conspiracy to distract people from the Russians?

That is crazy!

Mind you I'm sure the Republicans will know how to use it.

 

[tupac chopra]

The only reason Rich is named by anybody is because he was murdered and worked for the DNC.

The only reason anyone beyond his family and the police investigating his death know about him is because there's a dedicated campaign afoot to make Seth Rich the biggest distraction of the moment. Distraction from the Russian effort to upend the US election. Distraction from the Russians. People are being paid to promote this story.

Well the story has been around for quite a while, but are you really thinking KimDotCom is part of some global conspiracy to distract people from the Russians?

That is crazy!

Mind you I'm sure the Republicans will know how to use it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The only reason anyone beyond his family and the police investigating his death know about him is because there's a dedicated campaign afoot to make Seth Rich the biggest distraction of the moment. Distraction from the Russian effort to upend the US election. Distraction from the Russians. People are being paid to promote this story.

Well the story has been around for quite a while, but are you really thinking KimDotCom is part of some global conspiracy to distract people from the Russians?

That is crazy!

Mind you I'm sure the Republicans will know how to use it.

Rich was "killed by the Clintons" how low ago and the guy decides to step in just now?

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Russian Embassy, UK‏Verified account @RussianEmbassy

#WikiLeaks informer Seth Rich murdered in US but

MSM was so busy accusing Russian hackers to take notice.
7:13 AM - 19 May 2017

That is a legit Tweet?! They used the term "MSM" too?

 

[funinspace]

You are smart enough to know that this question doesn't do well for your case. It makes you sound like any Alex Jones follower.

No it does not.

1. We know it was a disgruntled DNC insider from Craig Murray.
2.Julian Assange basically told us it was Seth Rich
3. Kim Dotcom told us it was Seth Rich, and offered to come to the USA to testify.

No one one here has given any reason why it could not have been Seth Rich. I thought this forum was about logic evidence and reason

Seth Rich must be the main suspect.

No more so than the Clinton's killed Vince Foster, or there is a child porn ring hidden in a pizza joint basement. Who knows why KimDotcom joined the alt-reality conspiracy show boats. What little I do know of him, shows him to be quite the braggart, a showboat, and loves attention. Not very good qualities for someone to come out of the blue and join the alt-reality flakes in a un-supported tale.

As a non American I guess I'll just grab my popcorn, and watch the hysterical denials while no one gives any reason why it could not have been him

Could you find someone on this thread that said "it can't be Rich"? People are saying that there is no real evidence he was the leaker or that he was murdered for it. Breitbart and Alex Jones are not sources. KimDotcom joining this show so far down the drama train, does not add value to the pixie dust. The is a large gulf between saying "it can't be him" and saying "he is the main suspect".

 

[repoman]

There is a mini drama now of people saying that Reddit and Twitter are (from the very top of the companies) scrubbing signs of Seth Rich's accounts and even reactivating an account that was claimed to be his that has not been active since he died.

Either these people are loony or this is real life "The Net".

 

[KeepTalking]

There is a mini drama now of people saying that Reddit and Twitter are (from the very top of the companies) scrubbing signs of Seth Rich's accounts and even reactivating an account that was claimed to be his that has not been active since he died.

Either these people are loony or this is real life "The Net".

I'll take "these people are loony" for $500, Alex.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

There is a mini drama now of people saying that Reddit and Twitter are (from the very top of the companies) scrubbing signs of Seth Rich's accounts and even reactivating an account that was claimed to be his that has not been active since he died.

Either these people are loony or this is real life "The Net".

Well gee... if people on Reddit say it is happening, let me just discard my brain and get all my info from them.

 

[untermensche]

If Seth Rich was not a source for some of the leaks then Assange's reward for solving his murder was extremely cynical and manipulative.

If Seth was the leaker if would not be dragging his name through the mud to expose that.

What Kimdotcom is doing is extremely likely to be bullshit, but probably reflects not at all on Assange.

If Seth leaked and Kim has no info that would put Assange in a very strange place.

Whole thing is janky as hell.

Assange likes the spotlight. He likes making people think he knows more than he does.

He skirted this issue, never once saying anything plain.

He's a mischievous child who like a broken clock does something right once in a while.

 

[Ford]

the panda thing is in dispute, but not gonna put time into it now...


This is his statement:

I KNOW THAT SETH RICH WAS INVOLVED IN THE DNC LEAK.

I know this because in late 2014 a person contacted me about helping me to start a branch of the Internet Party in the United States. He called himself Panda. I now know that Panda was Seth Rich.

Panda advised me that he was working on voter analytics tools and other technologies that the Internet Party may find helpful.

I communicated with Panda on a number of topics including corruption and the influence of corporate money in politics.

I was referring to what I knew when I did an interview with Bloomberg in New Zealand in May 2015. In that interview I hinted that Julian Assange and Wikileaks would release information about Hillary Clinton in the upcoming election.

The Rich family has reached out to me to ask that I be sensitive to their loss in my public comments. That request is entirely reasonable.

I have consulted with my lawyers. I accept that my full statement should be provided to the authorities and I am prepared to do that so that there can be a full investigation. My lawyers will speak with the authorities regarding the proper process.

If my evidence is required to be given in the United States I would be prepared to do so if appropriate arrangements are made. I would need a guarantee from Special Counsel Mueller, on behalf of the United States, of safe passage from New Zealand to the United States and back. In the coming days we will be communicating with the appropriate authorities to make the necessary arrangements. In the meantime, I will make no further comment.

Mueller is not involved with Seth Rich case, right?

nothing burger

Let's take a slice out of this nothing burger and add a little sauce, shall we?

The Rich family has reached out to me to ask that I be sensitive to their loss in my public comments. That request is entirely reasonable.

Now let's compare that to the words of the Rich family:

We have seen no evidence, by any person at any time, that Seth’s murder had any connection to his job at the Democratic National Committee or his life in politics. Anyone who claims to have such evidence is either concealing it from us or lying.

But wait, there's more!

Still, conservative news outlets and commentators continue, day after painful day, to peddle discredited conspiracy theories that Seth was killed after having provided WikiLeaks with emails from the DNC. Those theories, which some reporters have since retracted, are baseless, and they are unspeakably cruel.

Maybe Kim will issue a retraction? Probably not. More sauce? Why yes...

We know that Seth’s personal email and his personal computer were both inspected by detectives early in the investigation and that the inspection revealed no evidence of any communications with anyone at WikiLeaks or anyone associated with WikiLeaks. Nor did that inspection reveal any evidence that Seth had leaked DNC emails to WikiLeaks or to anyone else.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-seth-richs-parents-stop-politicizing-our-sons-murder/2017/05/23/164cf4dc-3fee-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.09028ad222c8

Gosh, could it be that Kim Dot Com is a lying sack of shit just trying to get attention?

 

[blastula]

And if Assange did reveal his source (doubtful), he violated the most important guaranty of Wikileaks to its sources. He's as an ass either way.