Should white local people be encouraged to work as domestic servants in order to curb immigration?

[Harry Bosch]

Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

I don't understand this. He is providing you with labour for which he is compensated. It is exactly like you are being a good little drone in your office cubicle working for a corporation and getting paid for it. So why a line?

To work for an individual bully is to be a slave.

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Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

Since you would prefer to be either a beggar or a thief, to trading work for honest wages, it seems your copy of the social contract has different text than mine.

My contract specifies that is is bad to choose to be a parasite on society and if I choose to be a beggar or thief, I am a bad person.

All capitalists are parasites on society, living off the backs of others and producing nothing, as you know. Do try to stop talking holy bilge.

That might be a different discussion, but if you value your personal property as much as anyone, trashing capitalists is hypocritical.

I would like to hear the defense of living on the charity of others, or simply stealing their stuff, within a moral system.

Nothing to do with personal property. Capitalists live by stealing workers' wages, as you know. Anyone else - people who just want to live normally without slaving for instance - costs us thousands of times less than these bloody sharks

Since capitalists are so bad, I'm sure that you could provide us with an example of a country that worked better for it's citizens after it got rid of it's capitalist leeches?

Capitalism in its purest form only benefits a handful of people while the rest are expendable low cost coolies.
Most Europeans have reformed capitalism so that even a moderate factory or office worker no longer needs to live just above or just below the poverty line.

I support your post. I think that the best system is capitalist based, with strong protection for property rights, strong safety net, and a government that is attuned to it's citizens.

 

[ksen]

Iceland

For some reason, Iceland gets a bad rap for being a socialistic state. There are many strong Icelandic privately held companies. Below are some of their biggest companies:

Marel (producer of machinery for the fishing and agricultural industries)

Icelandair Group (airline and hotel chain)

Landsbankinn (the national bank of Iceland)

Alcoa Fjarðarál (aluminum smelter)

Icelandic Group (company in the seafood industry)

Promens (plastics manufacturer)

Samherji ( company in the seafood industry)

Samskip (container shipping company)

So?

You asked about a country that did better once it got rid of capitalist leeches. I presented the example of Iceland that got rid of the capitalist leeches that helped cause the 2008 financial crisis by throwing them in prison and now they are doing better.

 

[Harry Bosch]

For some reason, Iceland gets a bad rap for being a socialistic state. There are many strong Icelandic privately held companies. Below are some of their biggest companies:

Marel (producer of machinery for the fishing and agricultural industries)

Icelandair Group (airline and hotel chain)

Landsbankinn (the national bank of Iceland)

Alcoa Fjarðarál (aluminum smelter)

Icelandic Group (company in the seafood industry)

Promens (plastics manufacturer)

Samherji ( company in the seafood industry)

Samskip (container shipping company)

So?

You asked about a country that did better once it got rid of capitalist leeches. I presented the example of Iceland that got rid of the capitalist leeches that helped cause the 2008 financial crisis by throwing them in prison and now they are doing better.

You are incorrect. There are many capitalist pigs who continue to work in Iceland. They even have some evil bankers. Iceland prosecuted some of them. Not all. Secondly, I was also defending Iceland. They are very capitalistic and don't deserve the anti-business reputation that they receive. One of my partners is based there.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

So?

You asked about a country that did better once it got rid of capitalist leeches. I presented the example of Iceland that got rid of the capitalist leeches that helped cause the 2008 financial crisis by throwing them in prison and now they are doing better.

You are incorrect. There are many capitalist pigs who continue to work in Iceland. They even have some evil bankers. Iceland prosecuted some of them. Not all. Secondly, I was also defending Iceland. They are very capitalistic and don't deserve the anti-business reputation that they receive. One of my partners is based there.

How is it an anti-business reputation to lock up crooks?

 

[Harry Bosch]

You are incorrect. There are many capitalist pigs who continue to work in Iceland. They even have some evil bankers. Iceland prosecuted some of them. Not all. Secondly, I was also defending Iceland. They are very capitalistic and don't deserve the anti-business reputation that they receive. One of my partners is based there.

How is it an anti-business reputation to lock up crooks?

Athena: I don't think it is. If someone breaks the law, they should pay. Bankers that break the law should pay for it. I was actually defending Iceland. I had earlier asked for a successful socialist country, and I received the answer "Iceland". Many Americans believe that the European countries are all Socialist - and they are not. They are very strong capitalist countries (heavy defenders of basic rights, shareholder rights, workers rights, strong safety net)

 

[AthenaAwakened]

How is it an anti-business reputation to lock up crooks?

Athena: I don't think it is. If someone breaks the law, they should pay. Bankers that break the law should pay for it. I was actually defending Iceland. I had earlier asked for a successful socialist country, and I received the answer "Iceland". Many Americans believe that the European countries are all Socialist - and they are not. They are very strong capitalist countries (heavy defenders of basic rights, shareholder rights, workers rights, strong safety net)

They are social democracies with combination capitalist/welfare-state (also known as mixed) economies, yes.

 

[arkirk]

Athena: I don't think it is. If someone breaks the law, they should pay. Bankers that break the law should pay for it. I was actually defending Iceland. I had earlier asked for a successful socialist country, and I received the answer "Iceland". Many Americans believe that the European countries are all Socialist - and they are not. They are very strong capitalist countries (heavy defenders of basic rights, shareholder rights, workers rights, strong safety net)

They are social democracies with combination capitalist/welfare-state (also known as mixed) economies, yes.

Yes! And an evil mix it is. The social aspects seem to be on the downturn lately because the capitalists only have war to feed their unearned wealth. Europe is still smarting from the reverberations of losing a lot of its empires. It seems the economies that are doing best are those that stay as far from war as possible. It has been that way since there was a place called Europe. There really is no such thing as social capitalism. You want to know why Europe has the troubles it has....a failing capitalist (crooked) banking system and big business controlling government. Shareholder rights....is that Bosch's only concern about capitalism? Does anyone else have any rights? When push comes to shove....NO.

Regardless of their color, I find people just do what they have to do to stay alive. The should in this little story is wierd. What should happen? People should not have domestic servants unless they are disabled. The idea of a man or girl Friday for some important poo bah is pure narcissistic bullshit. They will do it because they are hungry and need clothes and housing...and perhaps to support the drug habit that helps them through their days with a bully master.

 

[Jayjay]

How is it an anti-business reputation to lock up crooks?

Athena: I don't think it is. If someone breaks the law, they should pay. Bankers that break the law should pay for it. I was actually defending Iceland. I had earlier asked for a successful socialist country, and I received the answer "Iceland". Many Americans believe that the European countries are all Socialist - and they are not. They are very strong capitalist countries (heavy defenders of basic rights, shareholder rights, workers rights, strong safety net)

To be fair, you did not ask for a socialist country, although that may have been your intent. Your exact words were: "an example of a country that worked better for it's citizens after it got rid of it's capitalist leeches?"

Iceland qualifies due to its reaction to financial crisis, when Iceland nationalised its banks and locked up some of the bankers.