Songs about women not getting enough orgasms

[DrZoidberg]

I like hip hop. There's a huge feminist wing of hip hop, where they're constantly complaining about how they're not given enough orgasms by inconsiderate lovers. I'm also a liberal. So I read these kinds of articles and social media posts. It seems to be a huge problem. I don't know for a fact it is a huge problem. But it's enough of a problem that it resonate with the audience of these posts and songs.

I have now made a theory about this. It's not based on anything but pure speculation on my part.

Hot guys will get laid, no matter what they do, pretty much. Most women want hot guys. Hot guys have little incentive to make much effort. They can be selfish as hell. If they woman they're with now leaves them they know they'll get a constant supply of new girls. I think these guys are the target of these songs. But they won't care.

The only people who hear these songs and change their behaviour is the not-so-hot guys. Who don't really matter for the girls. Since they're primarily selected for non-sexual reasons. They either feel proud about being awesome lovers. But it's only in their head. Or they'll think girls are just whiny unappreciative bitches.

Not sure what to do with this insight. I'll just leave it here. But it does mean that these things will keep coming. Because nothing is going to change. Hot guys will continue to not give a shit.

 

[spikepipsqueak]

I see this from an entirely different perspective, but I know nothing about the songs.

Generally speaking men achieve arousal faster and by different stimuli than women. (Yeah I know, that varies with individuals and situations.)

My own experience is that very few men care about their partner's satisfaction.

When we had more sex threads here I remember vividly that some very nice, good and intelligent men made comments that made plain they didn't believe their partners existed as sexual beings other than as they serviced men.

I don't believe it has anything to do with how hot the man is, but men with that attitude pretty much ensure that the woman isn't going to be aroused any time soon, and that puts the idea of orgasm out of reach.

Hence the idea that women don't enjoy sex and hence the songs.

 

[rousseau]

Pleasing women has a little to do with what you do in bed, but is equal parts how much you genuinely care about your partner. And because most people are selfish, sex often tends to be bad.

For many women, sex has a massive emotional component. It doesn't start getting good until they fully trust and love you, and for many couples that point probably never gets reached.

 

[braces_for_impact]

I see this from an entirely different perspective, but I know nothing about the songs.

Generally speaking men achieve arousal faster and by different stimuli than women. (Yeah I know, that varies with individuals and situations.)

My own experience is that very few men care about their partner's satisfaction.

When we had more sex threads here I remember vividly that some very nice, good and intelligent men made comments that made plain they didn't believe their partners existed as sexual beings other than as they serviced men.

I don't believe it has anything to do with how hot the man is, but men with that attitude pretty much ensure that the woman isn't going to be aroused any time soon, and that puts the idea of orgasm out of reach.

Hence the idea that women don't enjoy sex and hence the songs.

I agree with much of this. I think there's a lot of selfishness out there on the part of men, combined with an insecurity. Let's be frank about this. Many men (not just men actually, women too) get their ideas of what sex is like from porn. In porn women ALWAYS want it, are ALWAYS ready and available, and all it takes is a few strokes from your big dick (that you got from those pills you ordered) and she's cumming with little to no effort. Then you spray her like a fire hose and go grab the tissues. If this is what you think sex is like, you're going to go throughout life being an inconsiderate and lousy lover.

Women have these issues too. Most women cannot orgasm without considerable clitoris stimulation, and they get insecure when they can't figure out why they can't achieve orgasm by penetration alone. I've met women that were ashamed and thought something was wrong with them because they preferred to use a toy during sex. I've also met women that tried to perform oral on a man and couldn't go down on it like a submarine champ and would gag, and get insecure and worry that they weren't good in bed.

We need frank, factually based sexual education in this country and badly. We also just need a lot more men to stop thinking about nothing but their own desires too.

 

[TSwizzle]

Hotness (male or female) has little to do with it. Alcohol is the driver, has to be. I've never heard the songs but I expect most of these women are complaining that the drunk douchebag they picked up at a night club at 3:00am and banged in the parking lot was crap.

 

[braces_for_impact]

Hotness (male or female) has little to do with it. Alcohol is the driver, has to be. I've never heard the songs but I expect most of these women are complaining that the drunk douchebag they picked up at a night club at 3:00am and banged in the parking lot was crap.

I don't know why you would think this.

 

[braces_for_impact]

I like hip hop. There's a huge feminist wing of hip hop, where they're constantly complaining about how they're not given enough orgasms by inconsiderate lovers. I'm also a liberal. So I read these kinds of articles and social media posts. It seems to be a huge problem. I don't know for a fact it is a huge problem. But it's enough of a problem that it resonate with the audience of these posts and songs.

I have now made a theory about this. It's not based on anything but pure speculation on my part.

Hot guys will get laid, no matter what they do, pretty much. Most women want hot guys. Hot guys have little incentive to make much effort. They can be selfish as hell. If they woman they're with now leaves them they know they'll get a constant supply of new girls. I think these guys are the target of these songs. But they won't care.

The only people who hear these songs and change their behaviour is the not-so-hot guys. Who don't really matter for the girls. Since they're primarily selected for non-sexual reasons. They either feel proud about being awesome lovers. But it's only in their head. Or they'll think girls are just whiny unappreciative bitches.

Not sure what to do with this insight. I'll just leave it here. But it does mean that these things will keep coming. Because nothing is going to change. Hot guys will continue to not give a shit.

Any song names I can look up/listen to?

 

[DrZoidberg]

I like hip hop. There's a huge feminist wing of hip hop, where they're constantly complaining about how they're not given enough orgasms by inconsiderate lovers. I'm also a liberal. So I read these kinds of articles and social media posts. It seems to be a huge problem. I don't know for a fact it is a huge problem. But it's enough of a problem that it resonate with the audience of these posts and songs.

I have now made a theory about this. It's not based on anything but pure speculation on my part.

Hot guys will get laid, no matter what they do, pretty much. Most women want hot guys. Hot guys have little incentive to make much effort. They can be selfish as hell. If they woman they're with now leaves them they know they'll get a constant supply of new girls. I think these guys are the target of these songs. But they won't care.

The only people who hear these songs and change their behaviour is the not-so-hot guys. Who don't really matter for the girls. Since they're primarily selected for non-sexual reasons. They either feel proud about being awesome lovers. But it's only in their head. Or they'll think girls are just whiny unappreciative bitches.

Not sure what to do with this insight. I'll just leave it here. But it does mean that these things will keep coming. Because nothing is going to change. Hot guys will continue to not give a shit.

Any song names I can look up/listen to?

Thug Misses with Khia provoked this thread.

There's Peaches, FannyPack, Lady Sovereign, and probably a million that have slipped my mind.

I go this when googling feminist hip hop
http://thelala.com/feminist-hip-hop-songs-add-playlist/

 

[TSwizzle]

"Fuck Dem Other Hoes" and "Fuck Dem Fuck Niggaz" are particularly insightful.

 

[Playball40]

Hotness (male or female) has little to do with it. Alcohol is the driver, has to be. I've never heard the songs but I expect most of these women are complaining that the drunk douchebag they picked up at a night club at 3:00am and banged in the parking lot was crap.

Why would you think that?

 

[Playball40]

I have a little bit different perspective. I think most men (hot or not) DO want to please the woman they're with but many don't have the slightest clue as to how. Unfortunately, there are many women out there (especially younger ones) that also don't have a clue how to achieve orgasm. For those that do, some have a difficult time actually 'showing' the man for fear of ridicule (being thought of as a 'hoe', rejection (man may feel self conscious), embarrassment or any other myriad of reasons. The truly best sex comes from a comfort level with the partner and good communication.

 

[Angry Floof]

I like hip hop. There's a huge feminist wing of hip hop, where they're constantly complaining about how they're not given enough orgasms by inconsiderate lovers. I'm also a liberal. So I read these kinds of articles and social media posts. It seems to be a huge problem. I don't know for a fact it is a huge problem. But it's enough of a problem that it resonate with the audience of these posts and songs.

I have now made a theory about this. It's not based on anything but pure speculation on my part.

Hot guys will get laid, no matter what they do, pretty much. Most women want hot guys. Hot guys have little incentive to make much effort. They can be selfish as hell. If they woman they're with now leaves them they know they'll get a constant supply of new girls. I think these guys are the target of these songs. But they won't care.

The only people who hear these songs and change their behaviour is the not-so-hot guys. Who don't really matter for the girls. Since they're primarily selected for non-sexual reasons. They either feel proud about being awesome lovers. But it's only in their head. Or they'll think girls are just whiny unappreciative bitches.

Not sure what to do with this insight. I'll just leave it here. But it does mean that these things will keep coming. Because nothing is going to change. Hot guys will continue to not give a shit.

Your petty obsession with women is really starting to turn me on.

 

[blastula]

Women have orgasms?

 

[DrZoidberg]

I like hip hop. There's a huge feminist wing of hip hop, where they're constantly complaining about how they're not given enough orgasms by inconsiderate lovers. I'm also a liberal. So I read these kinds of articles and social media posts. It seems to be a huge problem. I don't know for a fact it is a huge problem. But it's enough of a problem that it resonate with the audience of these posts and songs.

I have now made a theory about this. It's not based on anything but pure speculation on my part.

Hot guys will get laid, no matter what they do, pretty much. Most women want hot guys. Hot guys have little incentive to make much effort. They can be selfish as hell. If they woman they're with now leaves them they know they'll get a constant supply of new girls. I think these guys are the target of these songs. But they won't care.

The only people who hear these songs and change their behaviour is the not-so-hot guys. Who don't really matter for the girls. Since they're primarily selected for non-sexual reasons. They either feel proud about being awesome lovers. But it's only in their head. Or they'll think girls are just whiny unappreciative bitches.

Not sure what to do with this insight. I'll just leave it here. But it does mean that these things will keep coming. Because nothing is going to change. Hot guys will continue to not give a shit.

Your petty obsession with women is really starting to turn me on. View attachment 11273

A man not obsessed about women is gay. I think that's the definition of that word

 

[TV and credit cards]

I just asked if it was good for you.

 

[Kosh]

I've always held out and made sure my wife had multiple orgasms. Anniversary #29 this year.

So there's a data point for ya . [emoji851][emoji8]

 

[DrZoidberg]

I've always held out and made sure my wife had multiple orgasms. Anniversary #29 this year.

So there's a data point for ya . [emoji851][emoji8]

If it's your wife it's just smart. I could calculate how many orgasms my first wife had on how many pointless arguments she started. If I'd given her plenty orgasms she would cheerfully come along to whatever excursion I wanted to go on. And be fun and happy, even if it wasn't her cup of tea. Nothing could ruffle her feathers. If few orgasms and I had to talk her into taking every little step of the way, and she still wouldn't be happy.

Knowing her menstrual cycle helped. She was extremely predictable.

Great information to have. Made life so pleasant.

 

[southernhybrid]

I'm on the way out the door so I only have time to say one thing right now. A man that can't or won't help a woman have orgasms isn't hot. A hot man is the one who understands how to satisfy a woman in bed. It does take two to tango as the old saying goes, so if I have time later, I'll be back.

 

[TSwizzle]

I just remembered this song from Lily Allen, not hip hop I know but still;




I remember seeing her on TV talking about this song, maybe it was The Graham Norton Show, and she said her boyfriend liked the song but didn't know it was about him ! As far as I know, she never did reveal who the song was about and she has "dated" a few well known celebs.

 

[rousseau]

In fairness to men, evolution probably designed it this way. Orgasms should be easier to achieve for men, you certainly wouldn't want women to finish before men.