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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser #2

Can they?

Remember at the end of Revenge of the Sith, Yoda had training for Obi Wan in order to allow him to commune with Qui-Gon.

No. I have paid good money for the exorbitant amount of drugs and alcohol that it took to forget episodes 1-3 ever happened, and I don't appreciate your attempting to remind me of things that never happened.
 
Remember at the end of Revenge of the Sith, Yoda had training for Obi Wan in order to allow him to commune with Qui-Gon.

No. I have paid good money for the exorbitant amount of drugs and alcohol that it took to forget episodes 1-3 ever happened, and I don't appreciate your attempting to remind me of things that never happened.

That's funny.

Episodes 1-3 forced me to reevaluate episodes 4-6 more honestly, and I had to admit they weren't as impressive as I originally thought.
 
I think it's referring to the fact that Leia and Han's kids are going to be the main characters of the next set of movies. This dialogue is tying it all together in that each trilogy is focused on one generation of the Skywalker family. The prequels were about Anakin, and that's referenced by showing the Vader mask. The originals were about Luke and Leia, and that's referenced by showing Luke there with R2. Then the "You have that power too" line, which was originally directed towards Leia, is now meant for the next generation and is referenced by an image of someone (obviously one of Leia's kids) being handed a light saber in a passing-the-baton type style.

That was my first thought, that everything is coming around full circle. JayJay says that's contrived.
Actually, I totally agree with Tom Sawyer's interpretation. I was saying that the speaker not being Luke would necessitate an improbably contrived plot twist.
 
Welp, I was wrong. That is indeed Mark Hamill speaking in the trailer. But it's not a recording of his dialogue in RotJ. It's a current Mark H. reciting his lines from thirty years ago. That explains why it sounds off to me.

Who and what he's talking about, however, remains to be seen.

But I'm still puzzled. Of all the classic lines from the original movies, why are these in this trailer? The use of 'has' in 'My father has it' has only spurred speculation that Darth Vader will make an appearance in this movie. Unless there is another brother/sister pair that needs to be informed that they are strong in the Force, there's no point in rehashing this scene. And if there is (as was my first thought) then why is Hamill reciting the line and not the young hero?

And, as Tom and countless meme-creators on the internet have so obligingly reminded us, this dialogues revolves around the squickiest concept in the six movies--that Luke once had a hard-on for his sister. Is that the evoked imagery that JJ was going for?

I think it's referring to the fact that Leia and Han's kids are going to be the main characters of the next set of movies. This dialogue is tying it all together in that each trilogy is focused on one generation of the Skywalker family. The prequels were about Anakin, and that's referenced by showing the Vader mask. The originals were about Luke and Leia, and that's referenced by showing Luke there with R2. Then the "You have that power too" line, which was originally directed towards Leia, is now meant for the next generation and is referenced by an image of someone (obviously one of Leia's kids) being handed a light saber in a passing-the-baton type style.

I wonder if this is reviving all the talk about how Skywalker's kids really shouldn't be that powerful.

Midichlorians give people the ability to connect to the Force. Apparently it's passed down through 'carriers' of these metaphysical cooties.

Who was The One?

It wasn't Luke. It was Anakin.

He had a high dose of cooties, but he mated with Padme who was not a Force sensitive. So his cooties get diluted in their kids. Maybe, if we follow classic genetics and he has 4 kids, 1 kid has none, 2 kids have some and 1 kid inherited the whole batch.

So chances are the powers get diluted with each generation if the carrier doesn't marry/mate with a fellow Force user. Otherwise, they don't get stronger. So, if at all, his kids should be average Force users like him or no Force users at all with maybe a throwback to their grandpa, Anakin.
 
I think it's referring to the fact that Leia and Han's kids are going to be the main characters of the next set of movies. This dialogue is tying it all together in that each trilogy is focused on one generation of the Skywalker family. The prequels were about Anakin, and that's referenced by showing the Vader mask. The originals were about Luke and Leia, and that's referenced by showing Luke there with R2. Then the "You have that power too" line, which was originally directed towards Leia, is now meant for the next generation and is referenced by an image of someone (obviously one of Leia's kids) being handed a light saber in a passing-the-baton type style.

I wonder if this is reviving all the talk about how Skywalker's kids really shouldn't be that powerful.

Midichlorians give people the ability to connect to the Force. Apparently it's passed down through 'carriers' of these metaphysical cooties.

Who was The One?

It wasn't Luke. It was Anakin.

He had a high dose of cooties, but he mated with Padme who was not a Force sensitive. So his cooties get diluted in their kids. Maybe, if we follow classic genetics and he has 4 kids, 1 kid has none, 2 kids have some and 1 kid inherited the whole batch.

So chances are the powers get diluted with each generation if the carrier doesn't marry/mate with a fellow Force user. Otherwise, they don't get stronger. So, if at all, his kids should be average Force users like him or no Force users at all with maybe a throwback to their grandpa, Anakin.

Over analyzing. Accept it's Magic and you'll be happier. ;)
 
I think it's referring to the fact that Leia and Han's kids are going to be the main characters of the next set of movies. This dialogue is tying it all together in that each trilogy is focused on one generation of the Skywalker family. The prequels were about Anakin, and that's referenced by showing the Vader mask. The originals were about Luke and Leia, and that's referenced by showing Luke there with R2. Then the "You have that power too" line, which was originally directed towards Leia, is now meant for the next generation and is referenced by an image of someone (obviously one of Leia's kids) being handed a light saber in a passing-the-baton type style.

I wonder if this is reviving all the talk about how Skywalker's kids really shouldn't be that powerful.

Midichlorians give people the ability to connect to the Force. Apparently it's passed down through 'carriers' of these metaphysical cooties.

Who was The One?

It wasn't Luke. It was Anakin.

He had a high dose of cooties, but he mated with Padme who was not a Force sensitive. So his cooties get diluted in their kids. Maybe, if we follow classic genetics and he has 4 kids, 1 kid has none, 2 kids have some and 1 kid inherited the whole batch.

So chances are the powers get diluted with each generation if the carrier doesn't marry/mate with a fellow Force user. Otherwise, they don't get stronger. So, if at all, his kids should be average Force users like him or no Force users at all with maybe a throwback to their grandpa, Anakin.

I have a lot of faith that they'll make it through the entire next trilogy without mentioning midochlorians even once. I also hope that Jar Jar shows up for one scene just to get shot in the face.
 
So that's why JJ ruined Star Trek. His second movie was just terrible and made me want to puke. Star Fleet officers with military hats? Change all of Klingon DNA? JJ just fucked it up from start to finish with Into Darkness. The 2009 movie was not terrible but into Darkness was just some sickly mutated anti-what Star Trek piece of junk.

Everything that makes Abrams wrong for Star Trek makes him right for Star Wars. So what if the movie is shallow and action-oriented? That would be in keeping with the source material.

This is what I've felt about Abrams from the very beginning since it was announced that he would be directing.
 
My boys are 12 and 13 years old. I have DVDs of every episode of Star Trek TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and all the movies. My boys are huge trek fans and have seen every episode many times. My boys have no respect for JJ.

They also love Star Wars, but less than Trek. They hope JJ doesn't continue to screw up Star Wars like he did with Trek. Bring back Rick Berman!! Shove JJ out the airlock.
 
The best thing about the prequels is that they lowered our expectations for the sequels. I doubt JJ could do worse than George.
 
The best thing about the prequels is that they lowered our expectations for the sequels. I doubt JJ could do worse than George.

Did you see Star Trek 2009?

With Olympic ice sprinting champion and finals cheater James Kirk
Martinet Spock
Animal abuser Montgomery Scott
Drug pusher Leonard McCoy
Whining sleep her way to the top Uhura
...
 
The best thing about the prequels is that they lowered our expectations for the sequels. I doubt JJ could do worse than George.

Did you see Star Trek 2009?
...


Yep. Easily the best Trek movie since Undiscovered Country. Clearly better than Star Trek - The Motionless Picture, Generations (or as I like to call it "Desperation Crossover") and the sad attempts to keep the Next Generation going beyond the otherwise admirable "First Contact."


I mean really...Insurrection and Nemesis?

Come on.
 
Did you see Star Trek 2009?
...


Yep. Easily the best Trek movie since Undiscovered Country. Clearly better than Star Trek - The Motionless Picture, Generations (or as I like to call it "Desperation Crossover") and the sad attempts to keep the Next Generation going beyond the otherwise admirable "First Contact."


I mean really...Insurrection and Nemesis?

Come on.

You are in the minority. Star Trek the Undiscovered Country is pretty much seen by most of the fandom as the worst of the franchise.
 
Yep. Easily the best Trek movie since Undiscovered Country. Clearly better than Star Trek - The Motionless Picture, Generations (or as I like to call it "Desperation Crossover") and the sad attempts to keep the Next Generation going beyond the otherwise admirable "First Contact."


I mean really...Insurrection and Nemesis?

Come on.

You are in the minority. Star Trek the Undiscovered Country is pretty much seen by most of the fandom as the worst of the franchise.

Worse than Star Trek V...Please God Never Let Shatner Direct Again?
 
Wrath of Khan is still the best of the movies IMHO. Worst two were Motion Picture and Star Trek V. I don't really count the two JJ's as Star Trek. The guy is clueless on what Star Trek is. But if I did, Into Darkness would be at the very bottom due to it's absolute cluelessness on what Trek is. 2009 would be in the middle.
 
The best thing about the prequels is that they lowered our expectations for the sequels. I doubt JJ could do worse than George.

Did you see Star Trek 2009?

With Olympic ice sprinting champion and finals cheater James Kirk
Martinet Spock
Animal abuser Montgomery Scott
Drug pusher Leonard McCoy
Whining sleep her way to the top Uhura
...

Yes, I did see it. And that should tell you how low George set my expectations after I was subjected to the Star Wars prequels.
 
credoconsolans said:
You are in the minority. Star Trek the Undiscovered Country is pretty much seen by most of the fandom as the worst of the franchise

I've never heard anyone say that. The universal opinion I heard was as of the first six, the even numbers were the best, and the odd numbers were the worst. With VI being worst of the best, and III being the best of the worst.
 
I think that Wrath of Khan was awesome. I don't care what anybody else's opinions of it are.
 
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