Stephen Breyer to retire at the end of this court session.

[Derec]

Apparently, our forum member who seems to equate choosing a Black female with Affirmative Action isn't alone.

It's affirmative action by definition. And the most blatant form of affirmative action - a rigid quota.

I have several "gifts" left to donate this month, so the following link is on me. Who would have ever thought that some asshole from Mississippi would equate a well qualified Black justice with Affirmative Action?

She hasn't even been named, so how do you know she is "well qualified[sic]"? Are you privy to some information we are not?
But ok, let's stipulate that Biden will nominate somebody well-qualified, because he almost certainly will. That is the tragedy of affirmative action for those it's ostensibly helping. They are forever under a cloud because they got where they are under a less stringent standard than those disadvantaged by affirmative action policies.

Btw, over 60% of Black citizens want AA to end.

But that view is not shared by activists and politicians of the Left. Like Biden, whose DOJ has defended Harvard discriminating by race.

There are already several far right radicals on the court, so it might be a good idea for Biden to choose a far left radical.

Cure for radicalism is not more radicalism.

But, I doubt that will happen.

Why not? Obama nominated Injustice Sotomayor, and Biden is more left than Obama.

People often describe others as radical simply because they hold different positions from themselves. I have confidence that Biden will choose someone who is well qualified to serve, and I will say it again.

I do not think somebody is a radical simply for disagreeing with me.
And I do not doubt she will be well-qualified on paper. This will not be another Harriett Myer! But I am more concerned with how her ideological positions may affect her rulings.

It's past time to have a Black woman serve on SCOTUS! The courts should reflect the diversity of the country.

Blacks are ~13% of the population. Why do you think 11.1% (1/9) is not adequate representation? Why is now the demand that blacks must be overrepresented (22.2% or 2/9)?

 

[Patooka]

Blacks are ~13% of the population. Why do you think 11.1% (1/9) is not adequate representation? Why is now the demand that blacks must be overrepresented (22.2% or 2/9)?

A simple solution would be to stack the court. Or abolish lifelong terms, You seem to be against either.

I've got a question for you - what do you perceive to be a danger in having qualified minority representatives composing a majority of leadership roles? Other than replacement of course.

 

[Derec]

I'm shocked but delighted to have heard that Lindsey Graham said on Face the Nation that he would vote in support of Childs, if she was Biden's nominee for SCOTUS.

For the record, I've never liked Graham. He doesn't strike me as a very smart man.

He even said that the court needed to reflect the racial diversity in the country. Wow again!

Wow indeed! He seems to be as bad at math as some of the posters here. The court is already pretty representative at 11.1%. 22.2% would be overrepresentation.

I don't know how Graham feels about the other potential nominees or if he just likes Childs because she is from SC, but he praised her for being a highly qualified justice.

Her being from SC probably has a lot to do with it. But Childs is not as well qualified as some others, particularly KBJ. Childs is not even on an appeals court. So, everybody who is dissing Kav's or Notorious ACB's qualifications while thinking Childs or Abrams' sister are "highly qualified" is being a hypocrite.

He also said that it would be good to have a SCOTUS justice who didn't attend an Ivy League school for a change. I agree. Imo, those schools are very overrated. All one has to do is evaluate some of the Republican ivy league school grads to know that.

I agree that there are good law schools outside of the Ivy League. No need to disparage people just because you don't like their politics though.

I also heard on either Meet the Press or Face the Nation that all 50 Democrats plan on supporting Biden's nominee. I believe that because Sinema and Manchin need to do something to show that they do support the Democratic Party, at least some of the time.

Well, both Sinema and Manchin support Biden on most things (and particularly judges). They are being unfairly vilified for opposing only two things - filibuster reform and B³ in the form passed by the House (Manchin at least is good with a $1.75T bill as long as it is funded for full 10 years rather than relying on accounting gimmicks to make it appear less expensive than it really is).

 

[Derec]

0 people are suggesting that. Why you'd bring it up, implies you have no other angle to argue from. President Biden isn't nominating Miss Cleo. He'll be picking from a list of highly qualified candidates.

Politesse did. And no, I did not suggest Biden might be nominating somebody like Miss Cleo, whoever she is (I assume she is not a circuit judge).

That is a peculiar reference to be making, and missing the broader points being presented in "Being There".

Have not seen it in many a year, but as I remember it, Peter Sellers plays a simpleton who is able to bullshit his way into political power.

But yes, there will be racism in the Spring.

More like spurious accusations that anybody opposed to the nominee, or opposed to the idea that race and sex of a nominee should be set beforehand, must be a "racist".

 

[Derec]

Kavanaugh and Barrett were exceptionally unqualified for a post that high, but they were being nominated by someone with even fewer qualifications for his job.

What makes them "exceptionally unqualified" exactly?
Kav graduated form Yale (BA, JD) without the benefit of AA, he worked in the White House and served on the DC Court of Appeals for 12 years.
Notorious ACB went to Rhodes and Notre Dame - not Ivy League but still good schools. She taught law at Notre Dame and George Washington. She worked at Advisory Committee for the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure. She served on the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals or three years.

How is this "exceptionally unqualified"?

Do you think Childs or Abrams' sister are more qualified? Why? Because of their melanin?

Hardly a lot of experience with the Supreme Court, but better than nothing.

What do you think would be a lot of experience for the Supreme Court? And what if Biden's nominee has less relevant experience than either of them? Will you go on record opposing the nomination? Or is it fine because race, gender and ideology trumps "technical qualifications" every time?

Sotomayor was confirmed by nine of the forty Republicans in the Senate at the time.

As you said, that was during a more collegiate time in the Senate. She is still an affirmative action hire who only went to Princeton because she is Puerto Rican. Even worse, she is immensely proud of not having qualifications to make it to Princeton (or frankly SCOTUS) on her own merit, and she is the biggest fan of racial preferences on the court, although this might change soon, depending on whom Biden nominates.

It was a little hard to substantiate the allegations with a deliberately shortened FBI investigation and the totally partisan rush to put him on the bench at all costs.

No, it was hard to substantiate anything because Ford could not remember when or where that alleged assault allegedly took place.
As for the college incident, the accuser there was sure somebody *cleans glasses* took it out at a party, but could not remember exactly who until she talked to her lawyer and then she was suddenly sure it was Kav.
It was a partisan witch hunt.

Democrats were not even allowed to call witnesses who could have corroborated Ford's allegations under oath.

As far as I remember there were no such witnesses.

I don't think that a year of clerking for a justice is much of a qualification,

You seemed to think it was important when you thought he did not have it.

and I never said liking beer should disqualify anyone. Liking it so much as to brag about it in a Supreme Court nomination hearing does not strike me as someone with the demeanor and character of a Supreme Court nominee, but I'm not a Republican.

He did not brag. He was defending himself because the Dems made a big deal of him drinking beer at parties when he was young.

 

[Derec]

A simple solution would be to stack the court. Or abolish lifelong terms, You seem to be against either.

I am definitely against partisan stacking of the court. It's a naked power grab. Something you'd think Trump would do, not Biden.
I would be for a term limit, say 20 years, but lifelong appointments are in the Constitution and amendments are difficult to pass.

I've got a question for you - what do you perceive to be a danger in having qualified minority representatives composing a majority of leadership roles? Other than replacement of course.

I have a problem with racial quotas. Especially when representation is now not enough and hyperrepresentation is demanded.
Let me ask you a question - what is wrong with Democrats putting a while man on the court? Because they have not done this in almost 30 years!

 

[Derec]

Select the [] in the editor and you have the old way of doing it. Useful when the editor fucks up. (Which it's prone to if you're not very careful in trimming quotes and failing to remove every character of a quote you're snipping.)

I do know that and use the non-WYSIWYG editor a lot, but sometimes I post without noticing. Like when both posters' names start with a 'P'.

 

[Derec]

I'd prefer Al Sharpton. The intensity of the strokes would be lethal and much more widespread and we could get our country back.

A completely unqualified black supremacist. Very on brand for you.

Also, I don't think you have analyzed the effect correctly. I don't think Manchin votes to approve him, and mere nomination would prove so unpopular that Dems would lose bigly in 2022 and 2024.

 

[Derec]

My husband likes his dentist because she has small hands that are not hairy.

When she tries to stick her fingers in my mouth or anus I might care, but until then gender should not matter.
And melanin content should not matter even under your non sequitur scenarios.

 

[Worldtraveller]

So, the million dollar question is: do you think all 200ish white men nominated and appointed were because of racism?

Or do you think that if they didn't state in advance that they were nominaing an old white guy, it's totally cool and not racist at all?

The answer to wrongdoing isn't tit-for-tat.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[Derec]

Personally for me, I just want to be certain they are a doctor!

 

[Derec]

No, he’s just stupid.
Chances are she has much smaller fingers.

 

[Patooka]

Something you'd think Trump would do, not Biden.

Nope. Definitely something Trump actually did. The onus is now on Biden to unfuck this.

I would be for a term limit, say 20 years, but lifelong appointments are in the Constitution and amendments are difficult to pass.

It's okay maye. I can see how passionate you are about this. A black chick is gonna get the gig so maybe sharpen your pitchfork just in case.

I have a problem with racial quotas.

What you call quotas at least.

Especially when representation is now not enough and hyperrepresentation is demanded.

Never ever thought about that for a second did you my dude?

Let me ask you a question - what is wrong with Democrats putting a while man on the court?

Same reason Australia has never place a non-white on the High Court, in my opinion. I could elaborate, but I'm certain that is a bridge too far given your...attitudes.

 

[Derec]

If my husband is any gage, most men are more comfortable talking with other men about issues related to their bathing suit areas. I mean, maybe not all.

My preference would be a "happy ending" masseuse who just happens to have a medical degree from China.

 

[Patooka]

Come on Derec, liberate yourself. And seeing as you love memes so much:



Just tell us what you really think.

 

[Jarhyn]

So, the million dollar question is: do you think all 200ish white men nominated and appointed were because of racism?

Or do you think that if they didn't state in advance that they were nominaing an old white guy, it's totally cool and not racist at all?

The answer to wrongdoing isn't tit-for-tat.

The answer to a lack of representation for a community is to give the most clearly qualified clear member of that community a position of meaningful representation at the top end of government.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

If my husband is any gage, most men are more comfortable talking with other men about issues related to their bathing suit areas. I mean, maybe not all.

My preference would be a "happy ending" masseuse who just happens to have a medical degree from China.

And the 2022 "Is it Racist, Sexist, or Illegal?" Award goes to...

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

If my husband is any gage, most men are more comfortable talking with other men about issues related to their bathing suit areas. I mean, maybe not all.

My preference would be a "happy ending" masseuse who just happens to have a medical degree from China.

And the 2022 "Is it Racist, Sexist, or Illegal?" Award goes to...

Not certain, but it definitely isn’t insured.

 

[Toni]

If my husband is any gage, most men are more comfortable talking with other men about issues related to their bathing suit areas. I mean, maybe not all.

My preference would be a "happy ending" masseuse who just happens to have a medical degree from China.

And the 2022 "Is it Racist, Sexist, or Illegal?" Award goes to...

Not certain, but it definitely isn’t insured.

But is it satisfaction guaranteed or your money back?

 

[Toni]

I agree. A corrupt Uncle Tom is in no way comparable.

Leftists love to call all blacks who refuse to toe the party line "Uncle Toms", "Oreos" etc.

to a competent, humanitarian, intelligent, well qualified justice

We were talking about Sotomayor. Who are you talking about?

Racial Preference Sonia admitted that she would not have been admitted to Princeton on merit and that she only got in because of her ethnicity and gender. Same reason she in on SCOTUS. A pure quota woman. Not that intelligent. Or well-qualified.
Humanitarian? She did not care that 20 New Haven firefighters studied hard for their promotion exam. She ruled that the city may discriminate against them on account of race based on the bankrupt notion of "disparate impact".

I wish I could say that I don't believe you just said that Justice Sotomayor is 'not that intelligent.' She graduated summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Princeton. Of course she was considered an affirmative action hire because she is Puerto Rican. Because if you aren't white and male in some people's minds, that's the only consideration that's important.

Justice Sonia Sotomayor: Affirmative Action 'Opened Doors in My Life'

In first-ever dissent read from the bench, the justice speaks from her heart.

abcnews.go.com

Later she tells a story about an experience at a recruiting dinner hosted by a well-respected Washington firm. One partner told her the "problem" with affirmative action is that "you have to wait to see if people are qualified or not. Do you think you would have been admitted to Yale Law School if you were not Puerto Rican?"

"It probably didn't hurt," a stunned Sotomayor said, "but I imagine that graduating summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Princeton had something to do with it too."