The Brexit spirit

[Rayschism]

Oh, COOL! I had been wondering if someone with negative rep could post negative rep on someone else.
Now i know.
Thanx!

You are a liar and a piece of filth person. stop harassing me. And stop derailing other people's threads.

 

[TSwizzle]

I too am at a loss as to what Brexit has to do with crap service in crap British pubs.

IMO the discussion, apart from Rayschism's attack on Keith&Co, has been about how things have changed in the UK while part of the EU, and how it may change once they leave.

Because a yank tourist can't get a martini ? LOL ! What next is Brexit going to be blamed for ? Shite weather ? It's a bit of a stretch to say the least.

Being English by birth, I have listened to my parents talk about life in the UK before the EU, and how it has changed since being in the EU. Service in different establishments is one of them.

Old people, bless 'em.

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Why can't they get Irish bartenders? Even the Irish bars here have Irish staff...

And they're the best in my experience. Granted, that doesn't include cocktails, which I tend to drink more in restaurants than bars.

They drink as much as they serve !

 

[Horatio Parker]

Why can't they get Irish bartenders? Even the Irish bars here have Irish staff...

And they're the best in my experience. Granted, that doesn't include cocktails, which I tend to drink more in restaurants than bars.

They drink as much as they serve !

As long as they're efficient, have the requisite amount of blarney, and observe the Rule of the Buyback, it's not my problem...

 

[Rayschism]

I spent three weeks in Germany with my brother and his family in 2003. We went out to a restaurant and the waiter almost had a heart attack because I treated him in a respectful manner.

And he tried to his utmost best to make my meal a pleasant experience because of it. I wanted to leave him a pretty good tip, but apparently, they don't tip their waiters in Germany.

Sometimes Americans and Europeans have more in common with each other than they think.

 

[Deepak]

I spent three weeks in Germany with my brother and his family in 2003. We went out to a restaurant and the waiter almost had a heart attack because I treated him in a respectful manner.

And he tried to his utmost best to make my meal a pleasant experience because of it. I wanted to leave him a pretty good tip, but apparently, they don't tip their waiters in Germany.

Sometimes Americans and Europeans have more in common with each other than they think.

I'd recommend going to a different establishment if you go back - tipping for good service is definitely customary in Germany.

 

[Philos]

I too am at a loss as to what Brexit has to do with crap service in crap British pubs.

TSwizzle,

Its simple. Our UK quality of life has been vastly improved by immigrant labour in the service industries.

A few years back I co-directed a language exchange programme, bringing young Spaniards to the UK to work in large hotel chains and learn/improve their English. The hotels couldn't get enough of our people, because they were dedicated, hard workers who didn't expect to be mollycoddled.

Many Brexiteers have made no secret to me of their intention, which is to cut back on EU labour in order to get Brits into British low paid jobs. Good luck with that.

A.

 

[Rayschism]

I too am at a loss as to what Brexit has to do with crap service in crap British pubs.

TSwizzle,

Its simple. Our UK quality of life has been vastly improved by immigrant labour in the service industries.

A few years back I co-directed a language exchange programme, bringing young Spaniards to the UK to work in large hotel chains and learn/improve their English. The hotels couldn't get enough of our people, because they were dedicated, hard workers who didn't expect to be mollycoddled.

Many Brexiteers have made no secret to me of their intention, which is to cut back on EU labour in order to get Brits into British low paid jobs. Good luck with that.

A.

So, because of this good service has gone down in pubs and other places?

 

[TSwizzle]

I too am at a loss as to what Brexit has to do with crap service in crap British pubs.

TSwizzle,

Its simple. Our UK quality of life has been vastly improved by immigrant labour in the service industries.

I can't say I have noticed.

Seems much the same as it always was to me, pretty good on the whole but martinis are still a challenge in some establishments.

Seems like a lot of "remoaning" going on.

 

[bilby]

A few years back I co-directed a language exchange programme, bringing young Spaniards to the UK to work in large hotel chains and learn/improve their English. The hotels couldn't get enough of our people, because they were dedicated, hard workers who didn't expect to be mollycoddled.

Actual photo of a satisfied hotelier discussing catering arrangements with one of Philos's students:

 

[bilby]

Then you don't understand the purpose of Brexit then.

The purpose of Brexit was to leave the EU over what some British citizens claimed were draconian socialist policies the EU was imposing upon Britain that some British people didn't want.

I've been following the issue, so I do know something about Brexit, and your comment smacks of dishonesty.

The purpose of Brexit depends on who you ask.

The purpose, from the perspective of the wealthy, is to get rid of the meddling Europeans and their bizarre commitment to laws that restrict the ability of the wealthy to plunder the nation without restraint.

The purpose, from the perspective of the Brexit voters, is to get rid of Johhny Foreigner, so the Great Britain can be transformed back into the glorious empire that bestrode the world, as it did in the mid-1950s, when the sun always shone, we played cricket on the village green, and had scones and jam for tea.

Of course, the latter is total and abject nonsense in every respect; but it is popular, and it achieves the goals of the former, so it doesn't need to be in any way connected to reality.

 

[gmbteach]

It was Keith who was attacking me.

Ah. So you can accuse gmbteach of dishonesty, but pointing out that that accusation is a habit of yours is 'an attack' on you.

Got it.

At no point in time did Keith call you disgusting names. I read the thread. Keith pointed out a fact from his observations on this and other threads. Then you started. It if that makes me 'dishonest' or 'an attack on you' then so be it.

 

[gmbteach]

Oh, COOL! I had been wondering if someone with negative rep could post negative rep on someone else.
Now i know.
Thanx!

Don't worry Keith, my positive rep would outweigh his negative rep any day of the week!

 

[Philos]

Folks,

On a general point, there is something interesting about the sudden and surprising flaming on this thread. I think it is the topic of 'Brexit'.

Looking around the web, there are many bad vibes with Brexit discussions, and people do get very hot under the collar. It is a bit like Trump and his unkind attitudes, causing all kinds of trouble with people who like or dislike him so strongly.

I never thought I would see racism back on the public agenda, but it is here. The day after Brexit, my wife and I went to a local fete. We accidentally went through the wrong gate and a man near me said (without making eye contact) "Sneaking in; that's a German thing." How long had he been holding that stuff in?

Alex.

 

[Philos]

The purpose of Brexit depends on who you ask.

The purpose, from the perspective of the wealthy, is to get rid of the meddling Europeans and their bizarre commitment to laws that restrict the ability of the wealthy to plunder the nation without restraint.

The purpose, from the perspective of the Brexit voters, is to get rid of Johhny Foreigner, so the Great Britain can be transformed back into the glorious empire that bestrode the world, as it did in the mid-1950s, when the sun always shone, we played cricket on the village green, and had scones and jam for tea.

Of course, the latter is total and abject nonsense in every respect; but it is popular, and it achieves the goals of the former, so it doesn't need to be in any way connected to reality.

Bil,

Quite so. Of course this fits in with the old chestnut about some voters voting against their own economic interests. I read a book 'What's the matter with Kansas' which deals with the psychology, among other things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What's_the_Matter_with_Kansas?

Just read about the American fund manager, Jeremy Hosking, who bankrolled Brexiteers and is doing it again with our general election. I wonder what could be in it for a US fund manager?

A.

 

[iolo]

The ridiculous Brexit vote meant that the very stupid and a few educated fanatics won against all expectation, and have ever since been strutting around trying to silence anyone (i.e near half the population) who dares deny ze peepul's vill. It is unbelievably tedious, and has produced huge dishonesty from the politicians.

 

[Horatio Parker]

What I've been reading is that the U.K. will no longer enjoy the trading privileges of EU membership. Also that the City will lose its financial punch as firms relocate. How dire these circumstances are I don't know.

If you view Brexit as detrimental to the Eurozone, it's a good thing IMO(I know the U.K. isn't on the Euro). Politically and tradewise integration seems wise, but the Euro must go.

So far, it doesn't appear to be a disaster, tho I admit I'm not following too closely.

 

[gmbteach]

Ah. So you can accuse gmbteach of dishonesty, but pointing out that that accusation is a habit of yours is 'an attack' on you.

Got it.

At no point in time did Keith call you disgusting names. I read the thread. Keith pointed out a fact from his observations on this and other threads. Then you started. It if that makes me 'dishonest' or 'an attack on you' then so be it.

Keith. I am sorry I posted this as a reply to your comment. I have been fighting a massive headache, nausea etc for the last 36 hours and didn't reply to rayschism, which is what I intended.

 

[ZiprHead]

Migraine?

 

[gmbteach]

Migraine?

Posssibly. Could be reaction to antibiotics I am on to clear up the inge too .... oh crap. Bilby can reclaim it.

ITMT I am at the hospital waiting to be treated for the persistent headache. It's bed. Nearly 36 hours now.

 

[bilby]

Migraine?

Posssibly. Could be reaction to antibiotics I am on to clear up the inge too .... oh crap. Bilby can reclaim it.

ITMT I am at the hospital waiting to be treated for the persistent headache. It's bed. Nearly 36 hours now.

Migrainous headache is a known side effect of the medication gmbteach is taking for the clostridium difficile related colitis, which is a common side effect of the clindomycin she was taking for the infection she acquired during the operation to correct the mis-placement of the screws that were used to repair the ligament that tore off the bone in a fall down the stairs over a year ago.

So now they are treating the complications caused by the treatment for the complications that were caused by the treatment for the complications caused by the treatment for the complications caused by the treatment for the original injury.

Hopefully this treatment will be uncomplicated.