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Now the democrats are losing Senate seats in a midterm. They may have won the house, but they still didn’t do as well as they hoped. They’re excited because they still won the house with all of the gerrymandering going on. But the trend line is still declining. Again, it will take an economic catastrophe, with Republicans clearly in charge to effectuate a real change.

SLD
 
They lost the Senate because they had far more seats up for election compared to the Republicans and many of those seats were in very conservative states. In 2020, the Republicans will have more seats up for election.

But, they did take 7 governors away from the Republicans, which means they will be able to redistrict before the next election and get rid of some of the gerrymandered areas. They also won many state AG races, and in Georgia, we are having a run off for AG since neither one got over 50%. So, imo, the Dems are far from dead, while the Republican party is now the party of Trump.
 
SLD said:
Now the democrats are losing Senate seats in a midterm. They may have won the house, but they still didn’t do as well as they hoped. They’re excited because they still won the house with all of the gerrymandering going on. But the trend line is still declining. Again, it will take an economic catastrophe, with Republicans clearly in charge to effectuate a real change.

SLD
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Don't you have some Confederate statue to polish?
 
southernhybrid said:
They lost the Senate because they had far more seats up for election compared to the Republicans and many of those seats were in very conservative states. In 2020, the Republicans will have more seats up for election.

But, they did take 7 governors away from the Republicans, which means they will be able to redistrict before the next election and get rid of some of the gerrymandered areas. They also won many state AG races, and in Georgia, we are having a run off for AG since neither one got over 50%. So, imo, the Dems are far from dead, while the Republican party is now the party of Trump.
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Here in Florida the "red" counties got redder when looking at the totals from the Senate and Governor's races. Strangely enough we still had some George Wallace Democrats that hadn't made the switch that are just now going over. The Republican Party is definitely now fully the equivalent of the dixiecrat wing of the Democratic Party from the 1960s. A lot of 50-60 something white folks that I know claimed to be life long democrats that votes a straight Republican ticket this election. My grandfather's Republican Party, the party of stodgy WASPs, died with McCain. The people with the means to do so are leaving the red counties and red states for greener pastures and leaving behind a fetid cesspool of ignorance, pills, and meth. The electoral map in this state is identical to the national map in distribution of Red v Blue. The sheer ignorance here in Florida is amazing. For example: The dark money ads for Scott laid all the blame for our algae blooms on Senator Nelson and people believed it. Florida Department of Environmental Protection is under direct control of the governor with funding appropriations by our state Senate. GOP has had full control of water quality in Florida for decades but 99% of the population has no idea that the state DEP even exists or that it has full supremacy in enforcing the Clean Water Act here in Florida. Rick Scott even sent our AG Pam Bondi to Washington to join a lawsuit seeking to block implementation of the Chesapeake Bay agreement because the fertilizer industry (phosphate mines) here in Florida don't want similar agreements to happen in the Mississippi basin (Farm Bureau was also influential in driving Scott-Bondi action).
 
SLD said:
Now the democrats are losing Senate seats in a midterm. They may have won the house, but they still didn’t do as well as they hoped. They’re excited because they still won the house with all of the gerrymandering going on. But the trend line is still declining. Again, it will take an economic catastrophe, with Republicans clearly in charge to effectuate a real change.

SLD
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Or you could just say, "Oops, I was wrong about that."
 
SLD said:
The Democrats are dead
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Really? Even more deader than The Republicans? :D

At the grass roots level, consider that during Obama's 8-year reign of terror, Democrats lost around a thousand seats in Statehouses and Governors' mansions.
Since 2017, Trump has managed to turn 367 of them blue again. If that's what consititutes "victory" for Trump, may he live long and prosper! 6 more years! (Projection would be 1835 such seats lost to Democrats during his tenure...)

This morning Joe Scarborough declared the Republican Party dead, gone, deceased, done, kaput ... in his usual hyperbolic way of course, but the indicators he cited were real enough.
In EMS terms, there is no discernible brain activity, body temp and BP have dropped to near hypothermic levels, perfusion is compromised (shock) and treatment resources are tapped. In a triage situation, this person would be categorized as "expectant", meaning there are injuries that overwhelm available medical resources, and treatment is at the expense of treating more likely salvageable patients. The chances of such a patient being saved at all are minimal, and full recovery even more unlikely.
R.I. fucking P.
 
scombrid said:
southernhybrid said:
They lost the Senate because they had far more seats up for election compared to the Republicans and many of those seats were in very conservative states. In 2020, the Republicans will have more seats up for election.

But, they did take 7 governors away from the Republicans, which means they will be able to redistrict before the next election and get rid of some of the gerrymandered areas. They also won many state AG races, and in Georgia, we are having a run off for AG since neither one got over 50%. So, imo, the Dems are far from dead, while the Republican party is now the party of Trump.
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Here in Florida the "red" counties got redder when looking at the totals from the Senate and Governor's races. Strangely enough we still had some George Wallace Democrats that hadn't made the switch that are just now going over. The Republican Party is definitely now fully the equivalent of the dixiecrat wing of the Democratic Party from the 1960s. A lot of 50-60 something white folks that I know claimed to be life long democrats that votes a straight Republican ticket this election. My grandfather's Republican Party, the party of stodgy WASPs, died with McCain. The people with the means to do so are leaving the red counties and red states for greener pastures and leaving behind a fetid cesspool of ignorance, pills, and meth. The electoral map in this state is identical to the national map in distribution of Red v Blue. The sheer ignorance here in Florida is amazing. For example: The dark money ads for Scott laid all the blame for our algae blooms on Senator Nelson and people believed it. Florida Department of Environmental Protection is under direct control of the governor with funding appropriations by our state Senate. GOP has had full control of water quality in Florida for decades but 99% of the population has no idea that the state DEP even exists or that it has full supremacy in enforcing the Clean Water Act here in Florida. Rick Scott even sent our AG Pam Bondi to Washington to join a lawsuit seeking to block implementation of the Chesapeake Bay agreement because the fertilizer industry (phosphate mines) here in Florida don't want similar agreements to happen in the Mississippi basin (Farm Bureau was also influential in driving Scott-Bondi action).
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What I have learned about some of the Georgia Republicans is that they are totally clueless as to why they are voting for Republicans. Case in point. Yesterday, before my workout class started, I got into a conservation with a very nice woman, age 55, who asked me who won the governor's election. I told her Kemp was probably the winner but Abrams hadn't conceded yet. She asked me what that meant. :eek: So, I gently explained it to her, then she asked me who I voted for her. Then I asked her who she voted for. She said she had voted for Kemp. I asked her why she voted for him. Her answer went something like this. "I know nothing about politics. I really have no interest in politics, but everybody ( I guess that meant her white friends and neighbors ) told me to vote for him. :rolleyes: I talked to her about the importance of learning more about the parties and the people running, and encouraged her to do that next time. She agreed. I felt bad that I hadn't discussed this with her prior to the election because I know that Abrams had more to offer someone like her, then Kemp did. I think there are probably a lot of voters like her, not just here in Georgia, but all over the country.
 
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