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angelo
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Could you point out her errors per favor!
On one condition: you write a summary of her argument in your own words so I know you've actually read and understood it.
angelo
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In other words you can't, or cant be bothered to find where she's in error! Got ya!
In other news. School skipping brat to get her own series. Where you ask? Where else but the BBC, and perhaps soon on ''our ABC"
"There's a great lesson here for the children of the world. If you cut class to play video games, your parents will be called in. But if you skip school and then claim that you're saving the planet, you will get nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize and get your own series.
The BBC will produce a series about 17-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg, the studio’s science unit announced Monday at its BBC Showcase trade show.
That should be "science unit"."
https://cms.frontpagemag.com/node/276403
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angelo said:
I saw that coming.
It's plain for all to see: @angelo doesn't read or understand his sources. He's just a never-ending Gish Gallop.
The Gish Gallop is effective because it only takes a minute to post a link to a blog or a Youtube video and demand "refute this or I win the argument". For every minute the galloper spends posting bullshit claims, it takes anywhere between ten minutes and several hours to explain why the argument is bullshit.
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I won't view or respond to sources that aren't verified as credible. Generally that leaves both YouTube and blog sources on my ignore list since they generally spout opinion supported by very sketchy evidence. Yup. That's my opinion and my firewall. Don't like it? Well, don't post similar and I won't post this.
When I want an opinion I'll do my own research and arrive at one. Others not willing to provide evidence and their own interpretations of that evidence are a waste of time.
Enough time wasted.
When I want an opinion I'll do my own research and arrive at one. Others not willing to provide evidence and their own interpretations of that evidence are a waste of time.
Enough time wasted.
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You're the one asserting she is in error.
angelo
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Far from it. This is a well researched and masterful expose of the IPCC. Here is the whole transcript which I'm certain will again be ignored by the [insult removed] who inhabit this thread.
https://nofrakkingconsensus.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/delinquentteenager_sample.pdf
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Ignored in the sense that the people you want to read it want to know that you actually read (and understand) it.
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Since [MENTION=341]angelo[/MENTION] is complaining that we won't read his link, I figure it's about time we had a recap of the anti-science and scientifically-illiterate garbage @angelo has posted in this thread that's supposed to be about science.
@angelo claims that CO2 is not contributing to the greenhouse effect at all.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...warming-Kilodeaths&p=719989&viewfull=1#719989
@angelo claims that climate experts have made many failed predictions about climate change.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...warming-Kilodeaths&p=721827&viewfull=1#721827
@angelo claims that global warming was renamed to climate change as part of a conspiracy to hide failed predictions. He also fabricates some statistics.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=723282&viewfull=1#post723282
@angelo falsely represents 500 signatories of a petition as climate science experts.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=723283&viewfull=1#post723283
@angelo implies that climate scientists rarely have physics degrees or PhDs. He claims that climate scientists fake their research to get grant money. He also claims that climate research is neither peer-reviewed nor based on the scientific method.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=723705&viewfull=1#post723705
@angelo misrepresents a guy with a Bachelor of Arts degree as a climate scientist.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=750103&viewfull=1#post750103
@angelo presents an astrophysicist as an expert on climate science, but the astrophysicist doesn't even have a basic grasp of how climate modelling works; the astrophysicist's own model is ridiculously simplistic.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=723756&viewfull=1#post723756
@angelo claims that a court found that a climate scientist faked his research.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=724527&viewfull=1#post724527
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=725674&viewfull=1#post725674
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729452&viewfull=1#post729452
@angelo implies that there was a conspiracy to fake research
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=724561&viewfull=1#post724561
@angelo implies that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, but that it isn't the biggest contributor.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=726457&viewfull=1#post726457
@angelo implies that climate science ignores the effect of the sun on the climate.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=726471&viewfull=1#post726471
@angelo misrepresents a bunch of people as climate experts.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=727669&viewfull=1#post727669
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=728564&viewfull=1#post728564
@angelo sulks
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=727950&viewfull=1#post727950
@angelo misrepresents conspiracy theorists as climate experts.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=728812&viewfull=1#post728812
@angelo links to another fake expert who misrepresent the IPCC reports.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...warming-Kilodeaths/page46&p=728837#post728837
@angelo blames current climate change on Milankovitch cycles.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=728840&viewfull=1#post728840
@angelo claims computer models are faked.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729454&viewfull=1#post729454
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729800&viewfull=1#post729800
@angelo compares climate models to model aeroplanes.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729697&viewfull=1#post729697
@angelo implies that since CO2 levels have been high in the past, it can't be humans' fault that CO2 levels are rising now.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729784&viewfull=1#post729784
@angelo falsely claims there's been a pause in global warming.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730132&viewfull=1#post730132
@angelo implies that peer review is faked.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730133&viewfull=1#post730133
@angelo misrepresent non-climate scientists as climate experts.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730146&viewfull=1#post730146
@angelo claims there are no climate scientists in the IPCC.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730809&viewfull=1#post730809
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730810&viewfull=1#post730810
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=757767&viewfull=1#post757767
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=763603&viewfull=1#post763603
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=764519&viewfull=1#post764519
@angelo claims that small concentrations of a molecule cannot have an effect.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730811&viewfull=1#post730811
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=731854&viewfull=1#post731854
@angelo can't tell the difference between homepathic concentrations and actual medicine.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=731134&viewfull=1#post731134
@angelo thinks climate and seasons are the same thing.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=731853&viewfull=1#post731853
@angelo cites a paper that he didn't read; he didn't even have the gist of it. he doesn't realise that climate scientists already know that most CO2 is from natural sources.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=732092&viewfull=1#post732092
@angelo claims that CO2 is a negligible greenhouse gas.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=732969&viewfull=1#post732969
@angelo claims it was this hot back in 1938.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=749860&viewfull=1#post749860
@angelo implies climate change isn't happening because Perth had a bit of mild weather in summer.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=750951&viewfull=1#post750951
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=751296&viewfull=1#post751296
@angelo implies climate change is always happening because Perth has a bit of humid weather.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=761784&viewfull=1#post761784
@angelo repeats arson conspiracy theory regarding unprecedented Australian bushfires.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=751296&viewfull=1#post751296
@angelo posts fake expert who doesn't understand how climate sensitivity works.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=753999&viewfull=1#post753999
@angelo posts blog citing paper that misrepresents a study on the scientific consensus on climate change.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=755051&viewfull=1#post755051
@angelo sulks a bit more
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=755906&viewfull=1#post755906
@angelo name drops a couple of non-experts. Both disagree with everything else @angelo has posted, anyway.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=756106&viewfull=1#post756106
@angelo suggests weather influences climate?
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=762204&viewfull=1#post762204
@angelo cites a fake expert who makes unsupported claims about sea level rise.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=762611&viewfull=1#post762611
We haven't completed the bingo card yet, but we're well on the way!
@angelo claims that CO2 is not contributing to the greenhouse effect at all.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...warming-Kilodeaths&p=719989&viewfull=1#719989
@angelo claims that climate experts have made many failed predictions about climate change.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...warming-Kilodeaths&p=721827&viewfull=1#721827
@angelo claims that global warming was renamed to climate change as part of a conspiracy to hide failed predictions. He also fabricates some statistics.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=723282&viewfull=1#post723282
@angelo falsely represents 500 signatories of a petition as climate science experts.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=723283&viewfull=1#post723283
@angelo implies that climate scientists rarely have physics degrees or PhDs. He claims that climate scientists fake their research to get grant money. He also claims that climate research is neither peer-reviewed nor based on the scientific method.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=723705&viewfull=1#post723705
@angelo misrepresents a guy with a Bachelor of Arts degree as a climate scientist.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=750103&viewfull=1#post750103
@angelo presents an astrophysicist as an expert on climate science, but the astrophysicist doesn't even have a basic grasp of how climate modelling works; the astrophysicist's own model is ridiculously simplistic.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=723756&viewfull=1#post723756
@angelo claims that a court found that a climate scientist faked his research.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=724527&viewfull=1#post724527
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=725674&viewfull=1#post725674
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729452&viewfull=1#post729452
@angelo implies that there was a conspiracy to fake research
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=724561&viewfull=1#post724561
@angelo implies that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, but that it isn't the biggest contributor.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=726457&viewfull=1#post726457
@angelo implies that climate science ignores the effect of the sun on the climate.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=726471&viewfull=1#post726471
@angelo misrepresents a bunch of people as climate experts.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=727669&viewfull=1#post727669
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=728564&viewfull=1#post728564
@angelo sulks
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=727950&viewfull=1#post727950
@angelo misrepresents conspiracy theorists as climate experts.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=728812&viewfull=1#post728812
@angelo links to another fake expert who misrepresent the IPCC reports.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...warming-Kilodeaths/page46&p=728837#post728837
@angelo blames current climate change on Milankovitch cycles.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=728840&viewfull=1#post728840
@angelo claims computer models are faked.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729454&viewfull=1#post729454
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729800&viewfull=1#post729800
@angelo compares climate models to model aeroplanes.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729697&viewfull=1#post729697
@angelo implies that since CO2 levels have been high in the past, it can't be humans' fault that CO2 levels are rising now.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=729784&viewfull=1#post729784
@angelo falsely claims there's been a pause in global warming.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730132&viewfull=1#post730132
@angelo implies that peer review is faked.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730133&viewfull=1#post730133
@angelo misrepresent non-climate scientists as climate experts.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730146&viewfull=1#post730146
@angelo claims there are no climate scientists in the IPCC.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730809&viewfull=1#post730809
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730810&viewfull=1#post730810
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=757767&viewfull=1#post757767
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=763603&viewfull=1#post763603
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=764519&viewfull=1#post764519
@angelo claims that small concentrations of a molecule cannot have an effect.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=730811&viewfull=1#post730811
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=731854&viewfull=1#post731854
@angelo can't tell the difference between homepathic concentrations and actual medicine.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=731134&viewfull=1#post731134
@angelo thinks climate and seasons are the same thing.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=731853&viewfull=1#post731853
@angelo cites a paper that he didn't read; he didn't even have the gist of it. he doesn't realise that climate scientists already know that most CO2 is from natural sources.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=732092&viewfull=1#post732092
@angelo claims that CO2 is a negligible greenhouse gas.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=732969&viewfull=1#post732969
@angelo claims it was this hot back in 1938.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=749860&viewfull=1#post749860
@angelo implies climate change isn't happening because Perth had a bit of mild weather in summer.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=750951&viewfull=1#post750951
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=751296&viewfull=1#post751296
@angelo implies climate change is always happening because Perth has a bit of humid weather.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=761784&viewfull=1#post761784
@angelo repeats arson conspiracy theory regarding unprecedented Australian bushfires.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=751296&viewfull=1#post751296
@angelo posts fake expert who doesn't understand how climate sensitivity works.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=753999&viewfull=1#post753999
@angelo posts blog citing paper that misrepresents a study on the scientific consensus on climate change.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=755051&viewfull=1#post755051
@angelo sulks a bit more
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=755906&viewfull=1#post755906
@angelo name drops a couple of non-experts. Both disagree with everything else @angelo has posted, anyway.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=756106&viewfull=1#post756106
@angelo suggests weather influences climate?
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=762204&viewfull=1#post762204
@angelo cites a fake expert who makes unsupported claims about sea level rise.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...ing-Kilodeaths&p=762611&viewfull=1#post762611
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That's not how you cite sources. You provide a link for verification.
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To that grand total. May I add this..........................https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-y...c-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/
50 years of failed doomsday, eco-pocalyptic predictions; the so-called ‘experts’ are 0-50
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Northwest Passage opens, bleaching corals, thawing permafrost. Years don't go by without setting monthly long high temperatures.
But let's look at 50 "incorrect" predictions from the last 60 years. Those predictions negate that the Northwest Passage is open now... and the corals aren't bleaching, the permafrost isn't thawing (waiting to dump methane into the atmosphere). Doc, I can't have cancer, my podiatrist twenty years ago was wrong about a diagnosis.
But let's look at 50 "incorrect" predictions from the last 60 years. Those predictions negate that the Northwest Passage is open now... and the corals aren't bleaching, the permafrost isn't thawing (waiting to dump methane into the atmosphere). Doc, I can't have cancer, my podiatrist twenty years ago was wrong about a diagnosis.
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Every single fatal diagnosis in my life has turned out to be incorrect.
Therefore, I am immortal.
QED.
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Yeah, I've heard Jehovah Witnesses go to them for training on managing faith despite failed predictions.
Did you even look at your link? Did you not notice the copyright? 2011.
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So you're admitting you were wrong in all those cases?
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I give up. One cannot reason with a brainwashed mind until that mind is cleansed out of it's poisoned indoctrination!
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I sincerely hope you are directing this comment to a mirror.