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THE Evolution Thread

excreationist said:
@NoHolyCows
BTW sea creatures is day 5 and flowering plants is day 3.... but sea creatures apparently emerged 580 million years ago but flowering plants appeared 140 million years ago (but should be before sea creatures) Those things are also relevant to evolution.
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Exactly 👍
 
I get the feeling we won’t be hearing again from DLH. ;) We’ll see.
 
Cone again when you can't stay so long DLH, don't go away mad just go away.

DLH is probably burning up the net working up responses and video to post.
 
NoHolyCows said:
excreationist said:
DLH said:
Here I want you to either tell me where evolution differs from the Bible. In very simple terms.
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answersingenesis.org

Created Kinds (Baraminology)

God made living things to reproduce according to their kind. The taxonomic science of baraminology seeks to classify modern and fossil organisms within their original kinds.
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"Genesis 1 repeats ten times that God created creatures separately according to various “kinds.” Today’s species show the potential variation that God designed within the original kinds, but this variety remains limited—cats are still cats, and dogs are dogs." [i.e. no macroevolution]
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Also macroevolution is said to take millions of years but it seems the Bible says that life was created a couple of days before humans were.
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All of that is true, but don’t forget—according to Watchtower theology, a ‘day’ in the Genesis creation account refers to eons of time.

NHC
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Even while it specifies a morning and evening of each day of creation......
 
steve_bank said:
Cone again when you can't stay so long DLH, don't go away mad just go away.

DLH is probably burning up the net working up responses and video to post.
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He’s probably scouring Watchtower manifestos to learn what to believe.
 
ideologyhunter said:
But what was Phase III? How am I supposed to get through my day without knowing Phase III?
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I actually think he had moved on to Phase !V or maybe even Phase !V, which consisted in posting a bunch of foolish nonsense of how macroevolution can’t be true and then going away when it was demonstrated to be true. Going away is his way of declaring victory.
 
DBT said:
Even while it specifies a morning and evening of each day of creation......
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Which is only two small parts of the ancient Hebrew day (1 Kings 12:5, 12). The amazing thing about day in the Bible is that tradition holds that the Bible indicates the universe was created in 144 hours or six literal days. Then when you explain to them how the ancient Hebrews used the term and how that term yohm is pretty much the same as our term day, they still see that literal 6 days narrative which is completely inaccurate. For example, the term yohm (day) is used 3 different ways just in the brief creation account. The same as we would use the term day in my day, we worked the day shift 3 days a week. The creation account mentions a literal day metaphorically, the daylight period itself, and all creation days listed as one day. The term is used for a period of indeterminate time (my day and Moses Day doesn't mean a literal 24 hours), the daylight hours, and a literal 24-hour period.

The seventh day of creation began after Adam had been created and continues to this day, as Mentioned by Moses and later Paul. It continues until Satan, the kingdoms of men (world) and death are no more and the meek have inherited the earth.
 
DLH said:
As promised @pood here is THE evolution thread to end all evolution threads. The most important evolution thread you will ever see. Even though pood has demonstrated remarkable patience it has also manifested a cross disposition of late. It seems like an insolent child. Petulant Poo. As it were.

Anyway, what I typically do since I post exclusively on atheist or in this case infidel forums, is I sympathize with the resident heathens having to discuss so much theology when they would much rather discuss science. I have little if any interest in science, but I'm fair.

Now, what you probably think is that the Bible creation account is contradictory to science. I don't believe it is, but I also think it doesn't matter. Science isn't the first Biblical contradictory endeavor of mankind. Prostitutes, fortune tellers, catamites, the precursor to the modern-day Olympics, for example. Et cetera. Ad Infinitum and Nauseum for good measure.

Nothing new under the sun.

Here I want you to either tell me where evolution differs from the Bible. In very simple terms. Einstein supposedly said that if you can't explain something in simple terms you don't know it very well or words to that effect. No theological or scientific jargon is necessary and if you want a 500+ post thread spanning years make one because this isn't it.

But that isn't even really necessary for the purpose of my participation in this discussion. All I need from you is actual evidence, I mean show me or explain to me literally, not give me a link where someone says macroevolution contrary to the Bible is evident.

That's it. Don't show me a photograph of fractured bone fragments or similarities between apes and humans, arms on whales. Show me macroevolution.

I will warn you right now, most of what you show me will be bullshit.
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What reward awaits those who manage to show you something you are incapable of recognizing? It seems like a poor survival of the fittest strategy and a waste of resources which could be better consumed passing on my genes to another generation.

I think I've already taken care of that, so I have some surplus life processes to expend.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the Bible creation account". If you could state this in very simple terms, we could gradually increase the complexity of the conversation.
 
DLH said:
DBT said:
Even while it specifies a morning and evening of each day of creation......
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Which is only two small parts of the ancient Hebrew day (1 Kings 12:5, 12). The amazing thing about day in the Bible is that tradition holds that the Bible indicates the universe was created in 144 hours or six literal days. Then when you explain to them how the ancient Hebrews used the term and how that term yohm is pretty much the same as our term day, they still see that literal 6 days narrative which is completely inaccurate. For example, the term yohm (day) is used 3 different ways just in the brief creation account. The same as we would use the term day in my day, we worked the day shift 3 days a week. The creation account mentions a literal day metaphorically, the daylight period itself, and all creation days listed as one day. The term is used for a period of indeterminate time (my day and Moses Day doesn't mean a literal 24 hours), the daylight hours, and a literal 24-hour period.

The seventh day of creation began after Adam had been created and continues to this day, as Mentioned by Moses and later Paul. It continues until Satan, the kingdoms of men (world) and death are no more and the meek have inherited the earth.
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There was no Adam.
 
Anyway, NoHolyCows gave you exactly what you asked for. Now what?
 
Bronzeage said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "the Bible creation account". If you could state this in very simple terms, we could gradually increase the complexity of the conversation.
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The Genesis Creation Account, found in the opening chapters of the Book of Genesis, presents the biblical narrative of the origins of the universe, the earth, and humanity. This account is foundational to the Judeo-Christian understanding of God as the Creator and sustainer of all things. It is divided into two primary sections: the six days of creation and the creation of humanity, followed by the seventh day of rest. Source
 
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