The hush money indictment

[ZiprHead]

Donald Trump Tells Tucker Carlson Workers At Manhattan Courthouse ‘Were Crying’ Over His Arrest

In the interview to air Tuesday night, Trump says courthouse employees "were actually crying. They said 'I'm sorry'"

www.forbes.com

Former President Donald Trump says employees at a Manhattan courthouse “were crying” and apologized as he arrived for his arraignment. “They were incredible,” Trump tells Tucker Carlson in an interview set to air Tuesday evening on Tucker Carlson Tonight. “When I went to the courthouse which is also a prison in a sense,” Trump said, “they signed me in and I'll tell you people were crying. People that work there. Professionally work there that have no problems putting in murderers and they see everybody. It's a tough, tough place and they were crying. They were actually crying. They said I'm sorry."

Oh, good lord...

 

[Gospel]

I believe him. I'd laugh so hard it would produce tears if I met him in person. I would indeed say, “Sorry, I can’t help it. You’re just so damn ridiculous!”

 

[blastula]

Trump's tale of crying Manhattan court employees was 'absolute BS,' law enforcement source says

Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a source told Yahoo News.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Shadowy Man]

Trump's tale of crying Manhattan court employees was 'absolute BS,' law enforcement source says

Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a source told Yahoo News.

news.yahoo.com

What??? Say it ain't so. I just can't fathom DTJ lying...

He's a sick individual, like mentally impaired level of sickness. But how do we explain the throngs of followers who eat these lies up? Are they all as sick? Or just don't care? Do they see Trump's lying as mere hyperbole?

 

[Jarhyn]

Trump's tale of crying Manhattan court employees was 'absolute BS,' law enforcement source says

Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a source told Yahoo News.

news.yahoo.com

What??? Say it ain't so. I just can't fathom DTJ lying...

He's a sick individual, like mentally impaired level of sickness. But how do we explain the throngs of followers who eat these lies up? Are they all as sick? Or just don't care? Do they see Trump's lying as mere hyperbole?

I mean, maybe the crazy nutter wrote Revelations was on to something with that whole hardening of the hearts thing.

I have no way to explain how people would wear the red hat to worship noise and babble and incoherent repetition of butchered catch phrases. Its hard to contemplate people hating the very idea of truth so much.

That's the one thing I just can't fathom. I mean I like stirring trouble. I'm sorry, I do, it makes me feel alive. Maybe in some ways that means I don't belong here. But the fact is, I'm not going to cause trouble against the truth, against that which is consistent enough to drive fact from fiction. I cannot fathom trouble at all costs at all times. I cannot fathom bathing the world in any kind of chaos wherein all this wonder is impossible.

We ought prefer the chaos that gives us wonders, not wars.

Always I have been in this because I value the truth more than being right, and that means I have proven myself wrong so many times that I have mixed feelings about my relationship with myself at times. I'm an arrogant prick sometimes, including to myself!

But what the fuck? How do they countenance burning the libraries again, and again, and again? I cannot fathom that thought process.

Even the waves trolls I have known and occasionally befriended and parted ways with had more of a purpose and sense when I knew them.

I think a lot of them want to burn the world on an altar for a heaven that does not even exist, and if it does, no sane and reasonable god would let them out.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Trump's tale of crying Manhattan court employees was 'absolute BS,' law enforcement source says

Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a source told Yahoo News.

news.yahoo.com

Given his reputation in NY, they were probably salivating.

 

[AdamWho]

These charges were always going to be weak

All 34 charges are 'falsifying business records', which is a misdemeanor. There is really just one charge.

They only become felonies because it is claimed that they were in furtherance of a yet unnamed crime. (pick one)

The number 33 is reached by counting each of the 11 transactions 3x.

* Receiving a fraudulent invoice from Cohen
* recording a fraudulent invoice in books
* paying a fraudulent invoice.

The 34th charge is because they had to issue one check twice. 11 payments x 3 + 1 mistake = 34

The underlying actions are federal crimes, not state crimes, thus he can't charge them.

That isn't a requirement and we don't know if the underlying charge is a federal crime

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Trump's tale of crying Manhattan court employees was 'absolute BS,' law enforcement source says

Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a source told Yahoo News.

news.yahoo.com

Given his reputation in NY, they were probably salivating.

As Trump's motorcade drove through New York to the court house to be arraigned, crowds lined the street shouting "New York hates you!". Nothing like a rousing welcome home for New York's favorite son.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

These charges were always going to be weak

All 34 charges are 'falsifying business records', which is a misdemeanor. There is really just one charge.

They only become felonies because it is claimed that they were in furtherance of a yet unnamed crime. (pick one)

The number 33 is reached by counting each of the 11 transactions 3x.

* Receiving a fraudulent invoice from Cohen
* recording a fraudulent invoice in books
* paying a fraudulent invoice.

The 34th charge is because they had to issue one check twice. 11 payments x 3 + 1 mistake = 34

The underlying actions are federal crimes, not state crimes, thus he can't charge them.

That isn't a requirement and we don't know if the underlying charge is a federal crime

I seem to recall Bragg stating what the 3 underlying crimes were. My vague recollection is he listed out informally 3 things--to include one which was violation of NY state election law. Do note even in a federal election, states have some specific laws and procedures. In any case, there is information available.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Here are the three items:

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg accused former President Trump on Tuesday not only of falsifying business records but of doing so with the explicit intent of covering up at least three other categories of crimes.

Driving the news: Those crimes, Bragg revealed at a press conference after Trump's historic arraignment, including violating New York state election law; making or causing additional false statements, including to tax authorities; and exceeding the cap on federal campaign contributions.

So I was referencing item#1, violation of NY state election law. Loren was referencing federal (item#3), but more specifically a cap of a few thousand was exceeded by Trump Organization by more than $100K. Item#2 is in reference to causing Cohen's crimes but seems to include even more false statements to tax authorities...

Bragg wouldn't have listed these three concrete items unless he could back them up with facts.

 

[jab]

Laws are technicalities.

Some are more technical than others. Armed robbery is a very different kind of crime than missteps in bookkeeping.

Well, Americans have rights to carry gun: So what if one of them gun carriers just missteps into a convenience store while exercising this constitutional right and incidentally filches some cash?

 

[jab]

Well, Trump is a rich white guy being prosecuted by an uppity black “liberal” DA . Add in he got some nooky from a porn star and he becomes a hero to a certain sector of society.

he denies the nooky, describing her as "horseface"--a term that could be applied to his first wife and to his third, both of whom also had careers of posing and of being photographed for money when he hooked up with them

 

[jab]

On what evidence do you base your assertion that 'Bragg loves thugs?'

No, I do not realize that the pending federal case is about stolen documents found at Mar a Lago. I am certain there will be such a case brought. There is also very likely charges to be brought regarding Jan 6. But Jack E Smith does not confide in me and so far, those charges have not been brought nor made public.

Misreporting hushmoney to further or to cover up another crime/crimes IS what elevates misdemeanors to felonies in NY. THAT is why the charges are felonies and not simply misdemeanors. I'm sure you are aware of that. It must have just slipped your mind.

A thug by the nomenclature of Don the Pussygrabbin' Con has made if abundantly clear that he feels Bragg so does not love him.

 

[TomC]

Trump is probably kicking himself now over paying off the bimbo. With the clarity of hindsight, there never was much reason to do it.

At the time, the conventional wisdom was that conservative Christian voters were crucial to his election. That they would overlook almost any amount of deceit and tax chiseling, but not his epic sexual shenanigans. As it turns out, they're even more hypocritical than anyone knew. They don't even care about those.

He'd probably have done better if a porno star were on TV talking about what a great lay he is. So what if he's cheating on his third wife while she's got a toddler? It's what really red blooded alpha males do.
Tom

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Trump is probably kicking himself now over paying off the bimbo. With the clarity of hindsight, there never was much reason to do it.

At the time, the conventional wisdom was that conservative Christian voters were crucial to his election. That they would overlook almost any amount of deceit and tax chiseling, but not his epic sexual shenanigans. As it turns out, they're even more hypocritical than anyone knew. They don't even care about those.

He'd probably have done better if a porno star were on TV talking about what a great lay he is. So what if he's cheating on his third wife while she's got a toddler? It's what really red blooded alpha males do.
Tom

Orange Martyr is raking in the millions from all those poor fellow sinners. In a way they're just sending the money to themselves. Well, not "in a way." They actually are sending the money to themselves.

 

[AdamWho]

There will not be any meaningful news on this until the next hearing in DECEMBER 2023.

 

[Gun Nut]

Trump's tale of crying Manhattan court employees was 'absolute BS,' law enforcement source says

Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a source told Yahoo News.

news.yahoo.com

What??? Say it ain't so. I just can't fathom DTJ lying...

He's a sick individual, like mentally impaired level of sickness. But how do we explain the throngs of followers who eat these lies up? Are they all as sick? Or just don't care? Do they see Trump's lying as mere hyperbole?

They are Deplorable people... at fault of their own for being evil pieces of shit, or no fault of their own for being uneducated and gullible. In all of the interviews with those people at rallies and such, it is crystal clear that they are just vomiting up buzzwords and catch phrases that bounce around in their bubble, without any thought or consideration at the utter ridiculousness of what they are echoing.

 

[Shadowy Man]

They are Deplorable people... at fault of their own for being evil pieces of shit, or no fault of their own for being uneducated and gullible. In all of the interviews with those people at rallies and such, it is crystal clear that they are just vomiting up buzzwords and catch phrases that bounce around in their bubble, without any thought or consideration at the utter ridiculousness of what they are echoing.

Aw.. c'mon! You honestly don't think it's plausible that Donald Trump is actually JFK Jr in Hollywood make-up? Or Biden is actually Obama in a mask?

 

[Gun Nut]

They are Deplorable people... at fault of their own for being evil pieces of shit, or no fault of their own for being uneducated and gullible. In all of the interviews with those people at rallies and such, it is crystal clear that they are just vomiting up buzzwords and catch phrases that bounce around in their bubble, without any thought or consideration at the utter ridiculousness of what they are echoing.

Aw.. c'mon! You honestly don't think it's plausible that Donald Trump is actually JFK Jr in Hollywood make-up? Or Biden is actually Obama in a mask?

As much as the Earth being flat and the moon landing being a hoax, sure. It's mostly all that level of conspiracy theory and requires that level of detachment from reality to buy-in.

 

[Shadowy Man]

They are Deplorable people... at fault of their own for being evil pieces of shit, or no fault of their own for being uneducated and gullible. In all of the interviews with those people at rallies and such, it is crystal clear that they are just vomiting up buzzwords and catch phrases that bounce around in their bubble, without any thought or consideration at the utter ridiculousness of what they are echoing.

Aw.. c'mon! You honestly don't think it's plausible that Donald Trump is actually JFK Jr in Hollywood make-up? Or Biden is actually Obama in a mask?

As much as the Earth being flat and the moon landing being a hoax, sure. It's mostly all that level of conspiracy theory and requires that level of detachment from reality to buy-in.

I know we're arguing about very small numbers here, but even Donald Trump being JFK Jr in a mask is exceedingly more likely than the Earth being flat.

Like there's levels of infinity there must also be levels of zero, with flat Earth being the zeroest level of zero.