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The Marjorie Taylor Greene case

From Raw Story News

Christian nationalist U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's remarks at the New York Young Republican Club's Saturday night gala have elicited massive response – and condemnation – from many after she insisted had she been "in charge" of the January 6, 2021 insurrection the rioters "would've been armed" and they "would have won
“I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won. Not to mention, we would’ve been armed,” Greene, a Republican from Georgia, told the group (video below).

Videos of her speech was as radical as it gets. She thinks Joe Biden "is a communist".
Firstly, some were armed. And I don't mean with flag poles, I mean guns. This took me five seconds of google.


"Oathkeepers QRF Rhodes trial". brings up a few interesting hits as well.

Secondly, I wish they were as heavily armed as Taylor-Greene fantasized as they would have most certainly all earned accommodation into a forever box that day and we still wouldn't be hearing this bullshit 2 years on.
 
From Raw Story News

Christian nationalist U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's remarks at the New York Young Republican Club's Saturday night gala have elicited massive response – and condemnation – from many after she insisted had she been "in charge" of the January 6, 2021 insurrection the rioters "would've been armed" and they "would have won
“I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won. Not to mention, we would’ve been armed,” Greene, a Republican from Georgia, told the group (video below).

Videos of her speech was as radical as it gets. She thinks Joe Biden "is a communist".
Firstly, some were armed. And I don't mean with flag poles, I mean guns. This took me five seconds of google.


"Oathkeepers QRF Rhodes trial". brings up a few interesting hits as well.

Secondly, I wish they were as heavily armed as Taylor-Greene fantasized as they would have most certainly all earned accommodation into a forever box that day and we still wouldn't be hearing this bullshit 2 years on.
If they had been heavily armed they probably would have pulled it off.
 
If they had been heavily armed they probably would have pulled it off.
For how long?
The objective was to keep His Flatulence in power. That would give them more time to consolidate their hold on power.
You are not answering the question. That is understandable as the claim that they would have prevailed in a coup is dubious at best. They merely would have delayed the constitutional process maybe by a week at most. The fact that they would have killed prominent members of congress and the administration, not to mention scores of other security personnel, and prevailed, is ludicrous.
 
If they had been heavily armed they probably would have pulled it off.
For how long?
The objective was to keep His Flatulence in power. That would give them more time to consolidate their hold on power.
You are not answering the question. That is understandable as the claim that they would have prevailed in a coup is dubious at best. They merely would have delayed the constitutional process maybe by a week at most. The fact that they would have killed prominent members of congress and the administration, not to mention scores of other security personnel, and prevailed, is ludicrous.
Sure, it's ludicrous. But it's not implausible, and coups elsewhere in history were no less ludicrous.

I am sure that the French and Russian aristocrats had a good old chuckle at the absurdity of a few upstart peasants trying to overturn the entire machinery of government. Even after they'd stormed some palaces and killed some guards and even some minor nobles, it was ludicrous to imagine that they could do anything more than cause a few weeks of disruption and disturbances, before the authorities put them in their place, and hanged a few ringleaders.

Certainly the absurd and clownish National Socialists with their spiffy uniforms and polished jackboots caused some civil unrest, got into some fights, smashed a few windows, even shot a few police - but their seizing actual power was ludicrous. Particularly once their cult leader was imprisoned for his role in the Munich beer-hall putsch.

All revolutionaries are ludicrous, right up until they suddenly win, leaving the rest of the population scratching their heads and wondering how on Earth the system collapsed so quickly.

Here's a scenario for you:

Jan 6th. A bunch of "rioters" break into the Capitol, find the Vice President, and a bunch of various senators and/or congressmen, and kill them.

The President declares martial law, and a state of emergency. Under the emergency decree, he is to remain in office until the dead senators/congressmen, have been replaced through special elections. To be called at a future date. Of Trump's choosing.

High ranking military and police officials who are seen not to have prevented this national disaster are arrested, but those officers are in fact selected by their lack of personal loyalty to Trump, not any actual failures on Jan 6th. Their replacements are hand picked by Trump.

Any public protests against these changes are ruthlessly put down, with Fox News applauding the firm actions that should have been taken to save VP Pence and the other senators and congressmen, now being seen to take place in defense of The American WayTM.

Journalists, influencers, and people who have been publicly unkind to Trump are arrested as part of the response to the disorder. They are sentenced (by judges appointed by Trump) to long jail terms for sedition.

The new election date is pushed out indefinitely; Until it becomes clear that no elections will take place at all. By which time anyone who might speak up is either in jail, in hiding, or in exile.

Which part of that ludicrous scenario is impossible? Or even implausible? Who is going to call a halt to it, and how will they enforce that?
 
If they had been heavily armed they probably would have pulled it off.
For how long?
The objective was to keep His Flatulence in power. That would give them more time to consolidate their hold on power.
You are not answering the question. That is understandable as the claim that they would have prevailed in a coup is dubious at best. They merely would have delayed the constitutional process maybe by a week at most. The fact that they would have killed prominent members of congress and the administration, not to mention scores of other security personnel, and prevailed, is ludicrous.
Sure, it's ludicrous. But it's not implausible, and coups elsewhere in history were no less ludicrous.

I am sure that the French and Russian aristocrats had a good old chuckle at the absurdity of a few upstart peasants trying to overturn the entire machinery of government. Even after they'd stormed some palaces and killed some guards and even some minor nobles, it was ludicrous to imagine that they could do anything more than cause a few weeks of disruption and disturbances, before the authorities put them in their place, and hanged a few ringleaders.

Certainly the absurd and clownish National Socialists with their spiffy uniforms and polished jackboots caused some civil unrest, got into some fights, smashed a few windows, even shot a few police - but their seizing actual power was ludicrous. Particularly once their cult leader was imprisoned for his role in the Munich beer-hall putsch.

All revolutionaries are ludicrous, right up until they suddenly win, leaving the rest of the population scratching their heads and wondering how on Earth the system collapsed so quickly.

Here's a scenario for you:

Jan 6th. A bunch of "rioters" break into the Capitol, find the Vice President, and a bunch of various senators and/or congressmen, and kill them.

The President declares martial law, and a state of emergency. Under the emergency decree, he is to remain in office until the dead senators/congressmen, have been replaced through special elections. To be called at a future date. Of Trump's choosing.

High ranking military and police officials who are seen not to have prevented this national disaster are arrested, but those officers are in fact selected by their lack of personal loyalty to Trump, not any actual failures on Jan 6th. Their replacements are hand picked by Trump.

Any public protests against these changes are ruthlessly put down, with Fox News applauding the firm actions that should have been taken to save VP Pence and the other senators and congressmen, now being seen to take place in defense of The American WayTM.

Journalists, influencers, and people who have been publicly unkind to Trump are arrested as part of the response to the disorder. They are sentenced (by judges appointed by Trump) to long jail terms for sedition.

The new election date is pushed out indefinitely; Until it becomes clear that no elections will take place at all. By which time anyone who might speak up is either in jail, in hiding, or in exile.

Which part of that ludicrous scenario is impossible? Or even implausible? Who is going to call a halt to it, and how will they enforce that?
Not only is this completely plausible, this county was a few pipe bombs and a few dozen fire arms away from this happening.
 
And they will do it again if they get the chance.

And the next time they will be fully armed.
 
If they had been heavily armed they probably would have pulled it off.
Re-read the article I posted for a bit of context. Also keep in mind the attitudes of Republicans in Congress that day. Brave Josh Hawley ran away. Madison Cawthorne was smuggling guns under his wheelchair because he was in fear of his life. Bruce Westerman hid in a toilet armed with a sword. Those are examples off the top of my head of Republicunts terrified of that mob that day.

Secondly, if they were armed with anything non-concealable it would've ended before it started. No way they would've gotten near with anything obvious. I'm also certain Taylor-Greene is not a military tactician - I'm sure her definition of armed is handguns. Which means the second they entered the Capitol with their pistol the US equivalent of the fucking Sardukar would have been deployed. Ironically, most likely at the behest of some conservative, pro 2nd Amendment politician screaming, "Save me!" at the top of their lungs.

I stand by my initial estimate.
 
If they had been heavily armed they probably would have pulled it off.
For how long?
The objective was to keep His Flatulence in power. That would give them more time to consolidate their hold on power.
You are not answering the question. That is understandable as the claim that they would have prevailed in a coup is dubious at best. They merely would have delayed the constitutional process maybe by a week at most. The fact that they would have killed prominent members of congress and the administration, not to mention scores of other security personnel, and prevailed, is ludicrous.
The objective was to get it thrown to Congress because the normal process was too disrupted. His SCOTUS toadies would probably have gone along.
 
The President declares martial law, and a state of emergency. Under the emergency decree, he is to remain in office until the dead senators/congressmen, have been replaced through special elections. To be called at a future date. Of Trump's choosing.

High ranking military and police officials who are seen not to have prevented this national disaster are arrested, but those officers are in fact selected by their lack of personal loyalty to Trump, not any actual failures on Jan 6th. Their replacements are hand picked by Trump.

It doesn't take anything like that. Just follow the normal Constitutional fallback process of letting Congress pick the president. It's one state one vote, His Flatulence would have won.
 
MTG is now officially divorced. She's available, guys!
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I thought right winged Christians were supposed to not get divorced, cause Jesus said so.
No, they're just not allowed to be gay.
It's one of those bizarrely hypocritical aspects of modern American Christian culture.
Jesus never said a thing about gay anything that got remembered. I expect He was just as homophobic as the general culture. He took it as too obvious to mention. But He didn't.

Divorce, however, He was clear about. But you don't see Christian folks pressing for Constitutional amendments outlawing that. Only gay marriage.

What's with that?
Tom
 
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