The Marjorie Taylor Greene case

[Swammerdami]

No, they're just not allowed to be gay.

It's one of those bizarrely hypocritical aspects of modern American Christian culture.
Jesus never said a thing about gay anything that got remembered. I expect He was just as homophobic as the general culture. He took it as too obvious to mention. But He didn't.

Am I the only one who finds the  Secret_Gospel_of_Mark#The_quotes_from_Secret_Mark suggestive? Clement of Alexandria quotes from an early longer version of the Gospel of Mark.

And going near Jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. And straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. But the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. And going out of the tomb they came into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus told him what to do and in the evening the youth comes to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the kingdom of God.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

I thought right winged Christians were supposed to not get divorced, cause Jesus said so.

No, they're just not allowed to be gay.

It's one of those bizarrely hypocritical aspects of modern American Christian culture.
Jesus never said a thing about gay anything that got remembered. I expect He was just as homophobic as the general culture. He took it as too obvious to mention. But He didn't.

Divorce, however, He was clear about. But you don't see Christian folks pressing for Constitutional amendments outlawing that. Only gay marriage.

What's with that?
Tom

Leviticus, In the same chapters that make homosexuality a capital crime, makes adultery likwise a capital crime. Among the extreme right we do not se the same level of hate towards adulterers as we see with gays. These sorts of Christians have no problem with voting for Trump, a notorious adulterer.

 

[ZiprHead]

I thought right winged Christians were supposed to not get divorced, cause Jesus said so.

No, they're just not allowed to be gay.

It's one of those bizarrely hypocritical aspects of modern American Christian culture.
Jesus never said a thing about gay anything that got remembered. I expect He was just as homophobic as the general culture. He took it as too obvious to mention. But He didn't.

Divorce, however, He was clear about. But you don't see Christian folks pressing for Constitutional amendments outlawing that. Only gay marriage.

What's with that?
Tom

Leviticus, In the same chapters that make homosexuality a capital crime, makes adultery likwise a capital crime. Among the extreme right we do not se the same level of hate towards adulterers as we see with gays. These sorts of Christians have no problem with voting for Trump, a notorious adulterer.

So banging a tantric love guru and a gym instructor while married should get her a death penalty.

Who am I to interfere?

 

[TomC]

So banging a tantric love guru and a gym instructor while married should get her a death penalty.

Who am I to interfere?

Being a solid ProLifer, I'm not OK with the death penalty.

Just whip her through the streets of D.C. naked, then chain her to a post on the edge of town for a couple of days.

I'd be OK with that.
Tom

 

[Loren Pechtel]

MTG is now officially divorced. She's available, guys!

Don't stick your dick in crazy.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

For right-wing Christians, when other people get divorced, it's because they are selfish and sinful and turning their back on Jesus.

When they themselves get divorced, it's for deeply personal and painful reasons, and please respect their privacy.

Same as with abortion.

 

[ZiprHead]

Far right turn on MTG over love life and support for Kevin McCarthy

Far-right pundits and hardline conservatives appear to have fallen of favor with Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene in recent weeks for a multitude of reasons.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Hardline conservatives turn on Marjorie Taylor-Greene and brand her 'trailer park hoodrat' for backing Kevin McCarthy, fighting with Lauren Boebert and 'affair' with tantric sex guru that ended her marriage​

• Far-right pundits have been criticizing Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene
• Greene was blasted for supporting Kevin McCarthy to be next House Speaker
• Jan 6th organizer Ali Alexander wrote Greene was trying to protect McCarthy
• Far-right radio host Stew Peters called her a threat to national security
• Republican Mike Crispi accused Greene of being blackmailed by McCarthy
• Nick Fuentes has encouraged his followers to heckle her at campaign events

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[lpetrich]

Ali Alexander quoted Revelation 3:16 from the Bible: "So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth."

 

[ZiprHead]

I bet you're a hoot at trivia parties.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[thebeave]

That's pretty rich...Chelsea Handler calling MTG "a moron" (not that it doesn't apply, though) given her epic facepalm confession recently:

 

[lpetrich]

Although MTG and Lauren Boebert seem much alike, the two don't get along very well.

Victor Shi on Twitter: "Lauren Boebert said, “I don’t believe in this just like I don’t believe in …Jewish space lasers.” And then Marjorie Taylor Greene blasted her with this:" / Twitter

(Dec 19, 2022)
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on Twitter: "I’ve supported ..." / Twitter

I’ve supported and donated to Lauren Boebert. President Trump has supported and donated to Lauren Boebert. Kevin McCarthy has supported and donated to Lauren Boebert. She just barely came through by 500 votes.

She gladly takes our $$$ but when she’s been asked:

Lauren refuses to endorse President Trump, she refuses to support Kevin McCarthy, and she childishly threw me under the bus for a cheap sound bite.

The country is facing extremely difficult times. Americans expect conservative fighters like us to work together to Save America and that is the only mission I’m 100% devoted to, not high school drama and media sound bites.

Save America!
Defeat the Democrats!

With some video from The Charlie Kirk Show. Matt Gaetz says that he likes MTG and supports her, despite a difference in opinion on who should be House Speaker. Lauren Boebert grumbled about being associated with things that MTG believes, like "Russian space lasers ... Jewish space lasers".

In the votes for House Speaker, MG and LB refused to vote for Kevin McCarthy, while MTG did.

 

[Oleg]

That's pretty rich...Chelsea Handler calling MTG "a moron" (not that it doesn't apply, though) given her epic facepalm confession recently:

Isn’t she the piss lady?

 

[ZiprHead]

Isn’t she the piss lady?

???

 

[lpetrich]

Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert Turn on Each Other
What they said at that Dec-2022 event:

“Someone who we all respect – Marjorie Taylor Greene – says Kevin McCarthy is gonna be a great speaker,” Kirk said.

“I guess you’ll have to ask Marjorie about that,” replied Gaetz who has done several events with Greene. “I’m a fan of hers, I’m an admirer, but it’s not something we see the same on.”

Boebert was less diplomatic and referenced comments Greene made about the possible cause of wildfires in California.

“I’ve been aligned with Marjorie and accused of believing a lot of the things that she believes in,” she began. “I don’t believe in this, just like I don’t believe in Russian space lasers, Jewish space lasers, and all of this.”

Before she was a member of Congress, Greene suggested in a 2018 Facebook post that the fires may have been caused by lasers shot from space. She further floated the idea that the Rothschilds, a Jewish wealthy banking family, might be behind the scheme.

“A laser beam or light beam coming down to Earth I guess,” Greene wrote. “Could that cause a fire? Hmmm, I don’t know. I hope not! That wouldn’t look so good for [Pacific Gas & Electric], Rothschild Inc, Solaren or Jerry Brown who sure does seem fond of PG&E.”

 

[Shadowy Man]

I thought right winged Christians were supposed to not get divorced, cause Jesus said so.

No, they're just not allowed to be gay.

It's one of those bizarrely hypocritical aspects of modern American Christian culture.
Jesus never said a thing about gay anything that got remembered. I expect He was just as homophobic as the general culture. He took it as too obvious to mention. But He didn't.

Divorce, however, He was clear about. But you don't see Christian folks pressing for Constitutional amendments outlawing that. Only gay marriage.

What's with that?
Tom

Leviticus, In the same chapters that make homosexuality a capital crime, makes adultery likwise a capital crime. Among the extreme right we do not se the same level of hate towards adulterers as we see with gays. These sorts of Christians have no problem with voting for Trump, a notorious adulterer.

Wait, you mean you’re supposed to read the *whole* Bible?? That’s a long book…

 

[lpetrich]

Back in the House Speaker election,
Ron Filipkowski on Twitter: "Marge: “If my friends in the Freedom Caucus, Matt Gaetz and others .. they’re proving to the country that they don’t care about doing the right thing for America .. they’re just destructionists. That’s why Repubs fail, and I’m really tired of it. RSBN (vid link)" / Twitter

Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls MAGA Colleagues 'Destructionist' as Rift Grows
and
Marjorie Taylor Greene Lets Loose on 'Never Kevin' GOP Reps.

“If my friends in the Freedom Caucus, Matt Gaetz and others will not take the win when they have it, they’re proving to the country that they don’t care about doing the right thing for America,” she began.

“They’re proving to the country that they’re just distractions. And that’s that’s not what we need to do as a party. That’s why Republicans fail. And I’m really tired of it,” Greene concluded in a clip from Right Side Broadcasting.

then

Greene began her remarks to C-SPAN by slamming her colleagues for making specific demands for themselves from McCarthy.

“We have been negotiating, talking, debating back and forth in our conference, trying to come to a really good rules package. And it’s amazing. As a matter of fact, I’ll quote Matt Gaetz. He said, ‘It’s exquisite,’ Greene began, adding:

That’s what he said on our conference call on Sunday. But in that conference meeting there, we found out that there were several members, three, in fact, that went in last night and were demanding positions for themselves, demanding gavel positions, demanding subcommittees, demanding for people to be taken off committees and people to be put on committees. Three, three Republicans out of our 222.

I want you all to know I have not done that for myself. The only thing I have done is is debate and and request and argue among my peers for the right things, for the rules package and for our agenda for the American people. And that’s the only thing I’ve done. I haven’t asked for one thing for my for myself. And I’m the only Republican that has zero committees. So you would think I would be the one in there asking for something. But I haven’t done that. But I find out that it’s my Freedom Caucus colleagues and my supposed friends that went and did that, and they asked nothing for me. Nothing. That’s what I found out in there. I am furious.

Is she saying that they want to be in certain committees?

Then she attacked Kevin McCarthy's opponents, like:

“There’s many more. Bob Good. $2 million from Kevin McCarthy to get elected. Lauren Boebert under $2 million from Kevin McCarthy to get elected. Many more people have taken Kevin McCarthy’s money to get elected, and then there’s a few of them that don’t want to support him as speaker,” she continued.

He also attacked Matt Gaetz for supporting Paul Ryan for Speaker, even though "people like me were at home furious that Paul Ryan’s speakership, because it wasn’t passing the MAGA agenda that we all supported." Also, "Chip Roy, he refused to object on January 6th. That’s not what our base wanted. He also set out the vote for the January 6th committee."

House Democrats had good reason to bring popcorn.

 

[lpetrich]

Lauren Boebert and MTG Broke Up After Bathroom Fight

The Daily Beast’s Ursula Perano and Zachary Petrizzo reported Tuesday that sources are pointing to a “shouting match” between the two Republicans during the McCarthy vote as being behind their current feud. The women reportedly got heated in the ladies room on Jan. 3.

According to multiple sources, Greene confronted Boebert while she was in the bathroom and blasted her for allowing McCarthy to support her reelection effort, but not supporting him for speaker.

From The Daily Beast:

The first source said Greene was in a stall and, upon coming out, confronted Boebert about taking money from McCarthy for her re-election and then turning against McCarthy when it came time to vote. The Colorado Republican was allegedly unaware that Greene was also in the bathroom at the time.

“That’s when Lauren said, ‘Don’t be ugly,’” the first source said, before she—in the words of this source—“ran out like a little schoolgirl.”

Back to Mediaite.

Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-MI) reportedly witnessed a confrontation between Greene and Boebert, but refused to dish on details, instead offering a lesson.

“What happens in the ladies room stays in the ladies room,” the Democrat said.

• Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene got into heated fight in the bathroom during speaker vote
• "Don't be ugly": Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert get into loud argument in House restroom | Salon.com
• Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene Had a Huge Fight In the Bathroom
• Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert 'Mean Girls' Capitol fight

 Mean Girls - "a 2004 American teen comedy film" - Mean Girls (2004) - IMDb

MTG is 49 and LB is 37, far from their teen years.

 

[jab]

If they had been heavily armed they probably would have pulled it off.

For how long?

The objective was to keep His Flatulence in power. That would give them more time to consolidate their hold on power.

You are not answering the question. That is understandable as the claim that they would have prevailed in a coup is dubious at best. They merely would have delayed the constitutional process maybe by a week at most. The fact that they would have killed prominent members of congress and the administration, not to mention scores of other security personnel, and prevailed, is ludicrous.

Sure, it's ludicrous. But it's not implausible, and coups elsewhere in history were no less ludicrous.

I am sure that the French and Russian aristocrats had a good old chuckle at the absurdity of a few upstart peasants trying to overturn the entire machinery of government. Even after they'd stormed some palaces and killed some guards and even some minor nobles, it was ludicrous to imagine that they could do anything more than cause a few weeks of disruption and disturbances, before the authorities put them in their place, and hanged a few ringleaders.

Certainly the absurd and clownish National Socialists with their spiffy uniforms and polished jackboots caused some civil unrest, got into some fights, smashed a few windows, even shot a few police - but their seizing actual power was ludicrous. Particularly once their cult leader was imprisoned for his role in the Munich beer-hall putsch.

All revolutionaries are ludicrous, right up until they suddenly win, leaving the rest of the population scratching their heads and wondering how on Earth the system collapsed so quickly.

Here's a scenario for you:

Jan 6th. A bunch of "rioters" break into the Capitol, find the Vice President, and a bunch of various senators and/or congressmen, and kill them.

The President declares martial law, and a state of emergency. Under the emergency decree, he is to remain in office until the dead senators/congressmen, have been replaced through special elections. To be called at a future date. Of Trump's choosing.

High ranking military and police officials who are seen not to have prevented this national disaster are arrested, but those officers are in fact selected by their lack of personal loyalty to Trump, not any actual failures on Jan 6th. Their replacements are hand picked by Trump.

Any public protests against these changes are ruthlessly put down, with Fox News applauding the firm actions that should have been taken to save VP Pence and the other senators and congressmen, now being seen to take place in defense of The American Way^TM.

Journalists, influencers, and people who have been publicly unkind to Trump are arrested as part of the response to the disorder. They are sentenced (by judges appointed by Trump) to long jail terms for sedition.

The new election date is pushed out indefinitely; Until it becomes clear that no elections will take place at all. By which time anyone who might speak up is either in jail, in hiding, or in exile.

Which part of that ludicrous scenario is impossible? Or even implausible? Who is going to call a halt to it, and how will they enforce that?

Not only is this completely plausible, this county was a few pipe bombs and a few dozen fire arms away from this happening.

They'd have had to kill Nancy Pelosi too, because upon Pence's death, she would become VP--and of course they were seeking her out too on Jan. 6. After her, in line of succession would have been a Trumpite.