The retreat of reason

[TSwizzle]

FFS, where will this end ? Reality and indeed biology is to be banished;

John Lewis has launched a range of gender-neutral children's clothes, becoming the first retailer in the country to remove "boys" and "girls" labels. The department store said it did not want to "reinforce gender stereotypes" with its childrenswear, which now has unisex labels on all clothing from 0-14 years. School uniforms are still in gender categories but are expected to switch to unisex soon.

Telegraph

"Gender stereotypes", LOL !! Bonkers.

 

[laughing dog]

Yes, it is always unreasonable and weird for a business to try to fill a niche for consumers.
And, it is especially unreasonable and irrational for a business to also reduce its costs while trying to fill its niche.

 

[LordKiran]

You sound like a bitter old man losing his shit because the cereal isle in his local food vendor has Spanish subtitles under everything.

And the retreat of reason? Wut? Is there a logical reason dresses are for girls only? Its just a piece of fabric...

 

[NMN]

First liberals deny race, now they deny gender. What else will be sacraficed at the altar of "equality"?

 

[LordKiran]

First liberals deny race, now they deny gender. What else will be sacraficed at the altar of "equality"?

What logic links one set of clothing to one gender again?

 

[fromderinside]

First liberals deny race, now they deny gender. What else will be sacraficed at the altar of "equality"?

Funny.

I presumed all color variations of humans possessed gender. Other than that your analogy is still f--ked. Equal isn't a dividing marker among humans for instance. Individuality falsies little nugget.

So where do we go now that your gambits do nothing to bolster reason.

 

[NMN]

What logic links one set of clothing to one gender again?

Are you really not understanding, or are you playing dumb? It's not really about the clothes. It's about the fact that liberals are pushing the psuedoscientific idea that sex and gender aren't real.

If I had a dime for ever gender that exists, I'd have two dimes.

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Funny.

What's funny is the idea that someone can be born with a dick, be raised as a boy, then throw on a skirt and demand to be called a woman.

 

[skepticalbip]

First liberals deny race, now they deny gender. What else will be sacraficed at the altar of "equality"?

It isn't "liberals". It is the new leftists. And it isn't that they deny race or gender. Everything is seen in race and gender terms for them. Race and gender (white men) are blamed for anything they dislike. Anyone they see as being "oppressed" is seen as being because of their race and/or gender. And anyone who is a member of the "non-white race and/or female" is seen by them as being "oppressed".

 

[Harry Bosch]

Are you really not understanding, or are you playing dumb? It's not really about the clothes. It's about the fact that liberals are pushing the psuedoscientific idea that sex and gender aren't real.

If I had a dime for ever gender that exists, I'd have two dimes.

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Funny.

What's funny is the idea that someone can be born with a dick, be raised as a boy, then throw on a skirt and demand to be called a woman.

So maybe you are unaware of babies born without a specific sex?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

It appears that the great flying spaghetti monster makes mistakes sometimes!

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Goddamned businesses catering to customers's needs because they see a marketing niche which will allow them to increase profits.

If that's not communism, I don't know what is.

 

[Keith&Co.]

"Gender stereotypes", LOL !! Bonkers.

So, is it reality or biology that drives gender specific clothing?

 

[skepticalbip]

Goddamned businesses catering to customers's needs because they see a marketing niche which will allow them to increase profits.

If that's not communism, I don't know what is.

Well done...

Any good capitalist should see the opportunity to market to and exploit the growing number of group-think people who reject biology.

 

[bilby]

The idea of having gender specific clothes for children before they reached a certain age is a relatively new one in the Western tradition; it's origins are found as recently as the 18th century.

This change doesn't represent some novel way of thinking that is at odds with history; it represents a return to normality, after a brief flirtation with a different way of doing things.

Quite why anyone would expect or anticipate 'reason' in something as innately unreasonable as fashion trends, I do not know; I think you would need to have an unreasoning and slightly pathetic obsession with rigidly maintaining the status quo in order to be even vaguely concerned by such a thing.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Goddamned businesses catering to customers's needs because they see a marketing niche which will allow them to increase profits.

If that's not communism, I don't know what is.

Well done...

Any good capitalist should see the opportunity to market to and exploit the growing number of group-think people who reject biology.

How does it reject biology to have one set of clothes and/or other items for all kids?

 

[whichphilosophy]

Yes, it is always unreasonable and weird for a business to try to fill a niche for consumers.
And, it is especially unreasonable and irrational for a business to also reduce its costs while trying to fill its niche.

A niche for customers who determine that their children have no gender?

 

[LordKiran]

Are you really not understanding, or are you playing dumb? It's not really about the clothes. It's about the fact that liberals are pushing the psuedoscientific idea that sex and gender aren't real.

If I had a dime for ever gender that exists, I'd have two dimes.

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Funny.

What's funny is the idea that someone can be born with a dick, be raised as a boy, then throw on a skirt and demand to be called a woman.

Actually I'm pretty sure this thread is about the clothes.

Rhetorical question for you: How can you deny the existence of gender whilst maintaining 'gender neutral' clothing? Seems to me this company doesn't deny the existence of gender at all. And with that undoing of your point, I'm out.

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Yes, it is always unreasonable and weird for a business to try to fill a niche for consumers.
And, it is especially unreasonable and irrational for a business to also reduce its costs while trying to fill its niche.

A niche for customers who determine that their children have no gender?

Or for people who dont think gender should matter with regards to how you dress outwardly...C'mon WP it's not that hard to figure out.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

There is indeed a retreat of reason within the regressive left, but this isn't it. This is just a business filling a niche. Now, if they outlaw dresses or manly man clothes, then you'll have a point. If I want to wear unisex non-gender specific clothes, or for that matter if I want to wear opposite gender typed clothes, that's really my own business, and a business can capitalize on my preference, no?

 

[whichphilosophy]

First liberals deny race, now they deny gender. What else will be sacraficed at the altar of "equality"?

What logic links one set of clothing to one gender again?

Perhaps if men and women wore bras unless they are banned for expressing gender.

 

[NMN]

Actually I'm pretty sure this thread is about the clothes.

That's just a symptom of the greater disease that is the regressive left's eternal quest for "equality" that ultimately tears down anyone who isn't part of what they define to be "oppressed" minority groups.

What I really want liberals to explain is why they keep trying to involve children in their schemes related to gender and sex. Hmmm, strange!

 

[LordKiran]

What logic links one set of clothing to one gender again?

Perhaps if men and women wore bras unless they are banned for expressing gender.

There's a distinction between clothing and undergarments, no? Undergarments broadly are meant to serve practical purposes beyond covering your body, same as outfits used in a specific task (Beekeeper's outfits, Firefighter's outfits, Military Fatigues ect.)

Since I'm pretty sure we're taking about just regular old clothes like shirts and jeans and dresses, and not garments used to serve a very specific function and/or are worn on the inside.