The Troubles of Liberals Don't Pop Out of Thin Air?

[Metaphor]

An opposite perspective is that the invention of air conditioning allowed older conservatives to move to the South, making it more conservative:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-10-04/how-air-conditioning-got-ronald-reagan-elected-president

Of course, moving might change your politics, too.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The effect as I see it of liberals "metastasizing" out of cities is that they will drive places purple or blue, and the places they leave arent going to get so dilute as to reverse the effects of educational infrastructure. So, I see the existence of sufficient voting quantities of liberals as an innoculation of sorts against conservatism of future generations and the net result is not a drain of liberal values from cities as much as a priming of liberal thought.

Argh! You're saying liberals are cancer! (Well, the Republicans would agree.)


Anyway, as for the OP:

There's another factor involved also--areas experiencing substantial emigration tend to be shitholes. The worthwhile people are far more likely to move to greener pastures.

 

[fromderinside]

Obviously any time people gather in large social groups large social accommodations are necessitated. Liberalism.

So plant a liberal seed and then generate a liberal tree, like in the research triangle in NC.

No. A liberal seed is planted when several gathered minds develop benefit for the group, increasing information exponentially.

 

[Treedbear]

The Troubles of Liberals Don't Pop Out of Thin Air?
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It's not only how thin the air is but how hot it gets. Both thin air and higher ambient temps make it harder for the brain to function efficiently. Currently sea level at the more northerly and southerly latitudes provides the best environment for creative problem solving. With global warming we'll all experience a dumbing down by degree.

 

[J842P]

An opposite perspective is that the invention of air conditioning allowed older conservatives to move to the South, making it more conservative:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-10-04/how-air-conditioning-got-ronald-reagan-elected-president

Of course, moving might change your politics, too.

Maybe, but I think that effect is small for retirees.

 

[J842P]

Doubled, actually. Can you do math? Because he can.

This has happened. Not as dangerous, though, drug-addled people have incredibly poor aim.

Also, the police tend to arrest drug addled attackers. In more regressive areas, the police ARE the anti-gay attackers, so there's that.

Eh, not so much in SF.

But I say this as someone who lives in the Tenderloin, it's not that bad. Certainly, not bad enough to make me want to leave SF.

 

[Politesse]

Eh, not so much in SF.

But I say this as someone who lives in the Tenderloin, it's not that bad. Certainly, not bad enough to make me want to leave SF.

You know, people talk shit about Fremont, but at least our Gestapo-like police are on it when it comes to arresting homeless people for justifiable and/or dubious causes.

 

[Emily Lake]

The Troubles of Liberals Don't Pop Out of Thin Air?
...

It's not only how thin the air is but how hot it gets. Both thin air and higher ambient temps make it harder for the brain to function efficiently. Currently sea level at the more northerly and southerly latitudes provides the best environment for creative problem solving. With global warming we'll all experience a dumbing down by degree.

By degree of temperature or degree of latitude?

 

[Treedbear]

The Troubles of Liberals Don't Pop Out of Thin Air?
...

It's not only how thin the air is but how hot it gets. Both thin air and higher ambient temps make it harder for the brain to function efficiently. Currently sea level at the more northerly and southerly latitudes provides the best environment for creative problem solving. With global warming we'll all experience a dumbing down by degree.

By degree of temperature or degree of latitude?

The third degree, but of course! (I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition.)

 

[Mumbles]

New Jersey has been losing people for decades, and it's not just me. I've lived all over the South for decades. When I first moved to Georgia, I had a job as a QA nurse in Atlanta. My team was made up of 3 women from Jersey, one from Pa, and one from Georgia. The Georgia nurse was Black, so she was most likely already a Democrat. That was in the early 90s. Even my small city, 40 miles south of Atlanta is changing. It's been majority Black for years, but my district has been gerrymandered so that the more White neighborhoods are in a district that is also part of a fairly rural mostly white area. Today I met two women who moved here from New Jersey. I met one from Detroit when the senior center was open, so even small town Georgia is becoming more blue or less red that it was in the past. Of course, as you've said, there are plenty of conservatives in the North, so not everyone who moves South is a liberal.

A lot of the younger black kids around here will gladly talk your ear off about how much they want to move to Atlanta in particular - and the further north you get, out to Chicago and Detroit, the more kids talk about it. And that's not new - I've been hearing this for decades. It's not a massive shock to me that it's John Lewis' old county that pushed Georgia over the edge, and that it's Stacy Abrams that helped out probably more than anyone else.

 

[Angry Floof]

The more dense a population, the more likely they'll be liberal in their political and world views. The more sparse the population, the more conservative they're likely to be. This is not coincidence. It's just human nature.

Exposure to other people and cultures breeds tolerance, but mostly that's in-person exposure. If it's through media - and the internet has bombarded everyone with exposure to people beyond their in-groups - that impersonal distance can just as easily breed culture clash of fear and hate instead of tolerance.

People in cities know they depend on greater society, regardless of what they think of it and big cities tend to be diverse. People out in the boonies who shoot their own food think their self sufficiency makes them separate from everyone else. That on top of less exposure to people not like them means not much of a chance for inclusivity, diversity, and tolerance to matter much to them because they don't experience first hand any need for such things. Plus, it's easy for us humans to believe the worst of people we don't know.

 

[lpetrich]

A lot of the younger black kids around here will gladly talk your ear off about how much they want to move to Atlanta in particular - and the further north you get, out to Chicago and Detroit, the more kids talk about it. And that's not new - I've been hearing this for decades. It's not a massive shock to me that it's John Lewis' old county that pushed Georgia over the edge, and that it's Stacy Abrams that helped out probably more than anyone else.

Atlanta? Why there?