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[ZiprHead]

Colorado lockdown protester arrested for pipe bombs

A Colorado lockdown opponent was arrested for possession of pipe bombs.

Federal agents executed search warrants Friday morning at the Loveland home of Bradley Bunn, where investigators said they found four pipe bombs and potential pipe bomb components, reported ABC News.

The 53-year-old Bunn had been helping to organize an armed protest demanding the state government end its coronavirus restrictions.

Authorities began investigating Bunn after they were alerted to angry and aggressive social media posts encouraging others to bring military-style weapons to a May 1 demonstration at Colorado’s capitol building.

 

[Elixir]

There has to be a middle ground. This thing is here to stay. If medical facilities are not overwhelmed I think we can say we are doing the right thing with all the social protocols.

Exactly. The desired outcome at this point is that healthcare resources don't get overwhelmed, and we get to at least 2/3 exposure as quickly as possible without letting that happen. It will likely take a couple of years, and trying to thread that needle without massive testing and tracking will probably turn this into a giant lethal mess. I'm really hoping that wastewater testing can be deployed quickly.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200428/testing-sewage-to-gauge-spread-of-coronavirus

 

[Keith&Co.]

Colorado lockdown protester arrested for pipe bombs

A Colorado lockdown opponent was arrested for possession of pipe bombs.

Federal agents executed search warrants Friday morning at the Loveland home of Bradley Bunn, where investigators said they found four pipe bombs and potential pipe bomb components, reported ABC News.

The 53-year-old Bunn had been helping to organize an armed protest demanding the state government end its coronavirus restrictions.

Authorities began investigating Bunn after they were alerted to angry and aggressive social media posts encouraging others to bring military-style weapons to a May 1 demonstration at Colorado’s capitol building.

Oy gevalt.
Part of bushido is the idea that a warrior has a place in his soul for the perfect weapon. When you find your perfect wespon, it fits you like a puzzle piece and you become whole. Or more whole, anyway.

I begin to suspect there's another hole. A place for a cause. A crusade. Some idea, a value, they can champion, to feel needed, validated, worthy of respect.
Unfortunately, this opening in too many souls is shaped like a Crazy Straw.
And when that perfect flag starts flying on the flagstaff of their heart, these otherwise mostly functional adults go right off their nut. Their 'whole' is 'wholly nutsy fagin,' and they rush to embrace looninessity.

I wonder if we all have a hole for the nutsy faginness? Maybe we are all afflicted, just asympomatic... Maybe the 'rational' humans have just never had the chance to champion their perfect cause? Maybe i would be just as loopy for cyborg rights? Of transmechanicals? Or against the threat of time-traveling tourists?
There but for the grace of limited plot devices go us all....

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

And with that, I'm tapping out.

Yes, you just might.

 

[bilby]

The insufferable prick of a governor of California, Gavin Newsom has gone full blown dictator. After scolding naughty Californians for going to the beach, he has decided to ground us by closing all beaches and parks.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom intends to order the closure of all state beaches and parks starting Friday, according to a copy of a memo provided to CNN by a senior law enforcement official. "We wanted to give all of our members a heads up about this in order to provide time for you to plan for any situations you might expect as a result, knowing each community has its own dynamics," the memo says.

An Orange County board of supervisors member pushed back on Newsom's expected announcement, calling it an "overreaction."
In a statement late Wednesday, Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner acknowledged Newsom has the authority to shutter the state's beaches, but called the decision "not wise."

CNN

 

[Treedbear]

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So true. As I like to say, freedom is either defined by its boundaries or it is meaningless.

 

[J842P]

The insufferable prick of a governor of California, Gavin Newsom has gone full blown dictator. After scolding naughty Californians for going to the beach, he has decided to ground us by closing all beaches and parks.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom intends to order the closure of all state beaches and parks starting Friday, according to a copy of a memo provided to CNN by a senior law enforcement official. "We wanted to give all of our members a heads up about this in order to provide time for you to plan for any situations you might expect as a result, knowing each community has its own dynamics," the memo says.

An Orange County board of supervisors member pushed back on Newsom's expected announcement, calling it an "overreaction."
In a statement late Wednesday, Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner acknowledged Newsom has the authority to shutter the state's beaches, but called the decision "not wise."

CNN

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It's precisely what you'd expect from an adolescent nation.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Perhaps. Why is South Korea a 'special case'?

Simply labelling something you don't personally like as "unrealistic" doesn't make it so.

South Korea is also a special case because they were, because of MERS, uniquely prepared to deal with it. They had equipment, processes, labs, isolation wards, all ready and waiting. They also made legal changes to allow infection tracking. Legal changes that Western countries would view as invasion of privacy. That's why South Korea is special.

China was probably equally prepared. But China is a totalitarian dictatorship, so its hard to know the truth about them.

 

[DrZoidberg]

I have inside information. Neil Fergusson was fired for being wrong. Nothing else. The given reason is just the excuse. His predictions about Corona were wrong. Throughout the whole Corona thing there's been a rivalry between Oxford and Royal Collage London. Neil Fergusson is on team Royal Collage London. They won earlier on and got to dictate policy. When their predictions didn't come true he was fired.

 

[DrZoidberg]

I also have inside information from Karolinska in Stockholm. It's Sweden's main hospital (and the institution that choses the Nobel prize winner for medicine). They tested all their staff last week. 69% tested positive for having had Covid-19. But only a handful had noticed ever having it and stayed home.

It has serious implications. It means that doctors at the hospital caring for high risk patients were doing so while spreading Covid-19 to them. Whoops. At least they didn't do it on purpose, and were in full protective gear, so it could have been worse. They based their behaviour on available medical science, and this time it didn't work out. Just goes to show the importance of funding medical research.

If not even doctors manage to realise if they're sick in Covid-19 this truly is a sneaky disease. Doesn't give the rest of us much a chance in keeping our at risk loved ones safe.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Perhaps. Why is South Korea a 'special case'?

Simply labelling something you don't personally like as "unrealistic" doesn't make it so.

South Korea is also a special case because they were, because of MERS, uniquely prepared to deal with it. They had equipment, processes, labs, isolation wards, all ready and waiting. They also made legal changes to allow infection tracking. Legal changes that Western countries would view as invasion of privacy. That's why South Korea is special.

China was probably equally prepared. But China is a totalitarian dictatorship, so its hard to know the truth about them.

Their leader also likely didn't tell citizens to go to work sick.

 

[ZiprHead]

Native American health center asked for COVID-19 supplies. It got body bags instead.
"Are we going to keep getting body bags or are we going to get what we actually need?" a Seattle Indian Health Board official asked.

In mid-March, as the Seattle region grappled with a coronavirus outbreak, a community health center caring for the area's Native American population made an urgent request to county, state and federal health agencies: Please send medical supplies.

What it received almost three weeks later left staff members stunned.

"My team turned ghost white," said Esther Lucero, chief executive officer of the Seattle Indian Health Board. "We asked for tests, and they sent us a box of body bags."

The health board's center — serving about 6,000 people a year in Seattle and King County — still has the package, which is filled with zippered white bags and beige tags that read "attach to toe."

 

[TSwizzle]

I have inside information. Neil Fergusson was fired for being wrong. Nothing else. The given reason is just the excuse. His predictions about Corona were wrong. Throughout the whole Corona thing there's been a rivalry between Oxford and Royal Collage London. Neil Fergusson is on team Royal Collage London. They won earlier on and got to dictate policy. When their predictions didn't come true he was fired.

Not only has he been forced to resign (I don't think he was fired) but the UK health secretary Matt Hancock would like to sic the police on him.

The UK health secretary has said he would back the police in any action they wish to take over Prof Neil Ferguson breaking social distancing rules by having a woman visit him at his home. Ferguson, an epidemiologist who has helped shape the government’s response to coronavirus and who advocated the lockdown, made the right decision to resign, Matt Hancock told Sky News. Hancock said: “I back the police here. They will take their decisions independently from ministers, that’s quite right, it’s always been like that. Scotland Yard said later no further action would be taken against Ferguson. A Met police statement criticised his behaviour as “plainly disappointing” but ruled out issuing a fine because he “has taken responsibility” after resigning. The police declined to say whether officers had spoken directly to Ferguson.

TehGruaniad

Scary stuff indeed.

 

[prideandfall]

I'm a fellow introvert, and I get where you're coming from.

I gotta ask though... how well do you think you'd fare if the government mandated that you must spend 2/3 of every day in a group of at least 50 people, with lots and lots of interpersonal discussion and small talk?

i'm not an introvert, just a cantankerous homebody.
in that instance i'd either find a way to make it work, or i'd bend the situation to suit my needs (or bend myself to suit the situation).

i understand that most people don't like being home except to sleep and require the company of others for stability, it's not disliking the situation that i'm bemused by it's the extent to which it seems so common for people to be completely losing their god damn minds over it.

 

[prideandfall]

What hobbies are going to generate enough income to pay the rent and buy the food ?

in what way is this post even remotely connected to what i said?

 

[TSwizzle]

What hobbies are going to generate enough income to pay the rent and buy the food ?

in what way is this post even remotely connected to what i said?

Well the discussion is more about people not being able to earn a living due to the lockdown than about how to fill one's leisure time.

 

[prideandfall]

Well the discussion is more about people not being able to earn a living due to the lockdown than about how to fill one's leisure time.

"the discussion" is your replying to a side comment that i made about my bemusement at the social foibles of many people.
i said not one single fuck-all about the economic impact of stay at home orders, so i once again have to question what your reply to me even remotely has to do with what i said.

 

[TSwizzle]

Well the discussion is more about people not being able to earn a living due to the lockdown than about how to fill one's leisure time.

"the discussion" is your replying to a side comment that i made about my bemusement at the social foibles of many people.
i said not one single fuck-all about the economic impact of stay at home orders, so i once again have to question what your reply to me even remotely has to do with what i said.

Already explained it, jog on.

 

[Emily Lake]

I'm a fellow introvert, and I get where you're coming from.

I gotta ask though... how well do you think you'd fare if the government mandated that you must spend 2/3 of every day in a group of at least 50 people, with lots and lots of interpersonal discussion and small talk?

i'm not an introvert, just a cantankerous homebody.
in that instance i'd either find a way to make it work, or i'd bend the situation to suit my needs (or bend myself to suit the situation).

i understand that most people don't like being home except to sleep and require the company of others for stability, it's not disliking the situation that i'm bemused by it's the extent to which it seems so common for people to be completely losing their god damn minds over it.

Think of it as relatively mild but extremely prolonged claustrophobia.

 

[TSwizzle]

The majority of people who are still being hospitalized with the coronavirus across the state of New York are staying at home and are not essential workers, new data has revealed, prompting the questions of whether or not lockdown even works or for how much longer it will be necessary. In a study of some 1,000 new patients admitted to New York hospitals over the last week, 66 percent were staying at home and 18 percent had come from nursing homes, meaning they either became infected by going out to get groceries or other essential items, or from seeing people outside of work.

Of all the new hospitalizations, 73 percent were over the age of 51. The worst affected group were people aged 61 to 70 who accounted for 20 percent of the hospitalizations. Almost all of them - 96 percent - had underlying conditions. Most cases were in Manhattan, with 21 percent coming from there, but almost as many - 18 percent - were in Long Island.

Cuomo said that while it shows the number of new infections is being caused by 'personal behavior' and not the lockdown, the stay-at-home order had generally thwarted the virus enough that it still a good overarching plan.

DailyMail

The "lockdown" is a farce, mere theater similar to the security checks at airports.