Kharakov
Quantum Hot Dog
So the grammatical equivocation of nothing is the problem? Seem to have that in math, 1/0, as well as the Neverending Story.This looks like "being deceived by grammar". Regrettably, the words English commonly uses for talking about this topic are ambiguous.I don't get this whole something from nothing claim- I've seen this comment a few times recently on the forum, and I'm wondering at its justification? Maybe a new thread? It's just something that I'd like to read more about- see if there is any logical loophole, or interesting trick, that can be used to justify it?
Obviously if there is nothing, it will not give arise to anything. If fact, the only thing nothing does is it utterly doesn't oppose what exists. Note that the whole "zero=nothing" is way off track.
Ok. But the claim was that something comes from nothing all the time, everywhere. And that is the claim that doesn't make sense. If there is no thing that "X comes from" that means "X" isn't "coming from" anything. "X" just exists. So any claims about it coming from "nothing" appear to be nonsensical to me.To say "X comes from nothing" could mean "The cause of X is nothing", which as you note is absurd. But it could also mean "There is no thing that X comes from", i.e. "X has no cause", which isn't absurd at all.