Treason...? Really?

[Keith&Co.]

So, the American Legion is up in arms because some Congress members have replaced the MIA/POW flags in their office entry-ways with Transgender banners.

In the comments section, it becomes clear that many military members/veterans/government workers are unclear on exactly what transgender is. They're pretty sure it's sexual perversion, they confuse it with homosexuality, other weird accusations.
But they figure that changing the flags is, in many cases, treasonous.

Please.

It's the only crime defined IN the constitution we swore to uphold and defend, jackass(es). Promoting the rights of actual citizens of the actual nation is not treason.

On the other hand, materials are classified EXACTLY based on their capacity to harm or allow harm to our national interests. People are denied security clearances if it is felt that they might threaten national interests if they had access to such things. And an administration that made SUCH a big deal about Hillary using a private server for government business should probably not hand clearances out like company-logo pens at a trade show.

giving the wrong people access to the stuff is a lot closer to treason than redecorating.

 

[PyramidHead]

The weakest criticism anybody can possibly make about something is that it's "anti-American" or "against American interests." Don't let people tell you what your interests actually are. Treason owns and is great.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

This sounds like fake news. Do you think it's a set up or a fraud? Perhaps?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This sounds like fake news. Do you think it's a set up or a fraud? Perhaps?

This indicates the LGBT flags were displayed at some offices.

It seems to all source to photos taken before now, showing the POW/MIA flags.

This is apparently a week long thing for LGBT tolerance exposure. So it appears factual, but I'd say not displaying the POW/MIA flag for a week doesn't mean you 'don't remember' anymore.

Of course, if they had a flag day and had the LGBT flag next to the POW/MIA flag, people would mess their pants over that, saying LGBT issues don't rise to the sacrifice of those left behind.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Who technically puts away flags and puts them up? It's definitely not the politicians...

 

[Jarhyn]

Well, I for one am GLAD, as a veteran, that trans awareness is being promoted in Washington. People having these objections is exactly the reason we need to raise this awareness: how will people ever understand each other if we never talk about it? How will anyone ever know to ask, if they never are exposed to the idea?

 

[TSwizzle]

It's a sickening display of virtue signalling.

 

[Worldtraveller]

Someone took down the POW/MIA flag to put up a transgender awareness flag.

And I completely forgot that we ever had any POW/MIA flags...ever.

 

[PyramidHead]

It's a sickening display of virtue signalling.

The MIA/POW flags, you mean? Yeah agreed

 

[Worldtraveller]

It's a sickening display of virtue signalling.

The MIA/POW flags, you mean? Yeah agreed

And this isn't?

https://static.thisisinsider.com/image/5c573d18eb3ce812a22d25d5-750.jpg

 

[Jarhyn]

It's a sickening display of virtue signalling.

Or, maybe it's actually acknowledging that trans people are people and so, you know, just a normal act of being good people

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It's a sickening display of virtue signalling.

The MIA/POW flags, you mean? Yeah agreed

And this isn't?

https://static.thisisinsider.com/image/5c573d18eb3ce812a22d25d5-750.jpg

When racists do it, we call it "dog whistling"

 

[TSwizzle]

Or, maybe it's actually acknowledging that trans people are people and so, you know, just a normal act of being good people

Nothing says "I'm a good person" better than a nice display of virtue signalling I guess. It's all rather twee.

 

[bilby]

Or, maybe it's actually acknowledging that trans people are people and so, you know, just a normal act of being good people

Nothing says "I'm a good person" better than a nice display of virtue signalling I guess. It's all rather twee.

Social signalling, including the signalling of opinions that are held to be virtuous by the signaler, are an essential part of being a social animal.

Why you feel that such signalling is a cause for derision is unclear - but it seems to me that you use it as a virtue signal to identify yourself as part of a particular clique or tribe (or more importantly to identify others as not a part of your clique or tribe) - which is hilariously ironic.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Hey, Legion. How about Trump humping the American flag at CPAC, while flashing a shit-eating grin at the audience? You can't tell me Obama could've done that without you and Fox News collectively losing your shit. Sean Hannity would've had steam coming out of his ears. Limbaugh would've done his first hour on it. So, when are you flag-lovin' Legionnaires going to lecture Trump on using the flag as a prop? Dickheads.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Or, maybe it's actually acknowledging that trans people are people and so, you know, just a normal act of being good people

Nothing says "I'm a good person" better than a nice display of virtue signalling I guess. It's all rather twee.

Social signalling, including the signalling of opinions that are held to be virtuous by the signaler, are an essential part of being a social animal.

Why you feel that such signalling is a cause for derision is unclear - but it seems to me that you use it as a virtue signal to identify yourself as part of a particular clique or tribe (or more importantly to identify others as not a part of your clique or tribe) - which is hilariously ironic.

Because virtue signaling is far more about signaling than virtue. It's obvious but most of it does very little actual good.

 

[Elixir]

Social signalling, including the signalling of opinions that are held to be virtuous by the signaler, are an essential part of being a social animal.

Why you feel that such signalling is a cause for derision is unclear - but it seems to me that you use it as a virtue signal to identify yourself as part of a particular clique or tribe (or more importantly to identify others as not a part of your clique or tribe) - which is hilariously ironic.

Because virtue signaling is far more about signaling than virtue. It's obvious but most of it does very little actual good.

So one man's dog whistle is another man's virtue signal.
I'm okay with that, I guess.
Anyhow ... Captives? Don't we prefer people who weren't captured these days? And if being captured is bad, being killed is that much worse. So fuck 'em, right?

 

[bilby]

Social signalling, including the signalling of opinions that are held to be virtuous by the signaler, are an essential part of being a social animal.

Why you feel that such signalling is a cause for derision is unclear - but it seems to me that you use it as a virtue signal to identify yourself as part of a particular clique or tribe (or more importantly to identify others as not a part of your clique or tribe) - which is hilariously ironic.

Because virtue signaling is far more about signaling than virtue. It's obvious but most of it does very little actual good.

Indeed - as exemplified by Tswizzle's post.

 

[Jarhyn]

Or, maybe it's actually acknowledging that trans people are people and so, you know, just a normal act of being good people

Nothing says "I'm a good person" better than a nice display of virtue signalling I guess. It's all rather twee.

You can't acknowledge someone's existence publicly without producing some kind of signal. You have made an impossible standard, if one is not to run afoul of "TSwizzle's arbitrary rules of social interaction": either say nothing and sweep an entire walk of life under the rug as if they don't exist (because any kind of public acknowledgement of their existence is "unacceptable virtue signalling", so sayeth TSwizzle), or... *Crickets*.

So go fuck off with that "virtue signalling" garbage. It's not virtue signaling, it's just "being a good person".

We need to talk about trying people existing and being a part of normal human life, or else nothing will get better for them. You want no discussion, no education, no awareness, when those things are what generates empathy, and it is empathy that motivates decision makers to change bad laws

 

[TSwizzle]

Nothing says "I'm a good person" better than a nice display of virtue signalling I guess. It's all rather twee.

You can't acknowledge someone's existence publicly without producing some kind of signal. You have made an impossible standard, if one is not to run afoul of "TSwizzle's arbitrary rules of social interaction": either say nothing and sweep an entire walk of life under the rug as if they don't exist (because any kind of public acknowledgement of their existence is "unacceptable virtue signalling", so sayeth TSwizzle), or... *Crickets*.
So go fuck off with that "virtue signalling" garbage. It's not virtue signaling, it's just "being a good person".

I never said it was unacceptable. I view these displays as as cynical virtue signalling by insincere people. And that goes for the MIA/POW flags too.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Because virtue signaling is far more about signaling than virtue. It's obvious but most of it does very little actual good.

So you are signaling that you are a good person because you don't signal that you are good person.