Trump supporters vs. Rep. Liz Cheney

[Jason Harvestdancer]

I think a few people need to remember what they are cheering in Liz Cheney.

The Neocon

Oh well I'm the type of guy who will never settle down
Where there's countries to attack you know that I'm around
I shoot 'em and I bomb 'em 'cause to me they're all the same
I occupy and drone 'em and don't even know their name
They call me a neocon, yeah a neocon
Troops roam around around around

Oh well there's Syria on my left and Iraq on my right
And Iran is the country that I'll attack tonight
On election day when the parties switch
I play for both sides there isn't any hitch
Cause I'm the neocon yeah the neocon
Troops roam around around around

Oh well troops roam from land to land
They go and I don't care
If there's oil under that sand
You know the troops will soon have a reason to go there

I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place my policies are unsound
I've never worn a uniform or carried a gun, yeah
It's the little people who can have all the fun
Yeah I'm the neocon, yeah the neocon
Troops roam around around around, let's go

Oh yeah I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place my policies are unsound
I've never worn a uniform or carried a gun, yeah
It's the little people who can have all the fun
'Cause I'm a neocon, yeah a neocon
Troops roam around around around around around
'Cause I'm a neocon, yeah a neocon
Troops roam around around around around around

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I think conservolibertarians need to remember what they are cheering in Trumplicans.

 

[laughing dog]

I think a few people need to remember what they are cheering in Liz Cheney.

The Neocon

Oh well I'm the type of guy who will never settle down
Where there's countries to attack you know that I'm around
I shoot 'em and I bomb 'em 'cause to me they're all the same
I occupy and drone 'em and don't even know their name
They call me a neocon, yeah a neocon
Troops roam around around around

Oh well there's Syria on my left and Iraq on my right
And Iran is the country that I'll attack tonight
On election day when the parties switch
I play for both sides there isn't any hitch
Cause I'm the neocon yeah the neocon
Troops roam around around around

Oh well troops roam from land to land
They go and I don't care
If there's oil under that sand
You know the troops will soon have a reason to go there

I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place my policies are unsound
I've never worn a uniform or carried a gun, yeah
It's the little people who can have all the fun
Yeah I'm the neocon, yeah the neocon
Troops roam around around around, let's go

Oh yeah I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place my policies are unsound
I've never worn a uniform or carried a gun, yeah
It's the little people who can have all the fun
'Cause I'm a neocon, yeah a neocon
Troops roam around around around around around
'Cause I'm a neocon, yeah a neocon
Troops roam around around around around around

There is nothing inconsistent or wrong for cheering for an alleged neocon who stands up for the truth or what is right, even if that is the only time they have done it. It does not mean anyone is endorsing anything else Ms. Cheney has said or done.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

There is nothing inconsistent or wrong for cheering for an alleged neocon who stands up for the truth or what is right, even if that is the only time they have done it. It does not mean anyone is endorsing anything else Ms. Cheney has said or done.

So Hitler, as bad as he was, can claim credit for not being Trump. You won the last Defense of Hitler thread, looks like you're trying for an encore.

 

[laughing dog]

There is nothing inconsistent or wrong for cheering for an alleged neocon who stands up for the truth or what is right, even if that is the only time they have done it. It does not mean anyone is endorsing anything else Ms. Cheney has said or done.

So Hitler, as bad as he was, can claim credit for not being Trump.

No, Hitler is dead, so Hitler cannot claim anything.

But if Hitler were still alive, of course he could claim credit for not being Trump. Why would any rational person care? it would not change what Hitler did or stood for. Just like Ms. Cheney standing for the truth in this case does not change what she has done nor what she stands for.

You seem to think that people who applaud Ms. Cheney for this one act of political courage are unaware of who she is or what she stands for.

You won the last Defense of Hitler thread, looks like you're trying for an encore.

I see you are still having trouble distinguishing between fantasy and reality.

 

[fromderinside]

There is nothing inconsistent or wrong for cheering for an alleged neocon who stands up for the truth or what is right, even if that is the only time they have done it. It does not mean anyone is endorsing anything else Ms. Cheney has said or done.

So Hitler, as bad as he was, can claim credit for not being Trump. You won the last Defense of Hitler thread, looks like you're trying for an encore.

Uh, no. Trump employs many tactics and techniques of introduced and perfected by Hitler so claiming not to be like Trump would be lying.

 

[Patooka]

That is a very simplistic attitude towards politics, not worthy of anyone who thinks he is mature enough to comment on politics.

So simplistic attitudes are fine only if you do it. Okey dokey then.

 

[ZiprHead]

There is nothing inconsistent or wrong for cheering for an alleged neocon who stands up for the truth or what is right, even if that is the only time they have done it. It does not mean anyone is endorsing anything else Ms. Cheney has said or done.

So Hitler, as bad as he was, can claim credit for not being Trump. You won the last Defense of Hitler thread, looks like you're trying for an encore.

Uh, no. Trump employs many tactics and techniques of introduced and perfected by Hitler so claiming not to be like Trump would be lying.

Does anyone really doubt that if Trump were allowed to continue he would become another Hitler?

 

[ideologyhunter]

If decapitation were the norm for capital punishment, Trump would have his enemies (all of them guilty of treason) decapitated in his presence, then have a banquet set out and throw sugar plums at Melania for sport. He is every ancient history era's smutty little satrap, sadistic and self-worshipping.

 

[fromderinside]

Uh, no. Trump employs many tactics and techniques of introduced and perfected by Hitler so claiming not to be like Trump would be lying.

Does anyone really doubt that if Trump were allowed to continue he would become another Hitler?

Hitler? He's not up to it. He's all me-flex. Never a cogent thought. Apparently pricked early on by a pin the prick lashes out at most every thing not going into his mouth.

Yeah, he'd react that beheading is a wonderful way to cut off unwanted discussion.

 

[untermensche]

Does anyone really doubt that if Trump were allowed to continue he would become another Hitler?

Hitler had ideas.

He wasn't just an empty pathological narcissist.

Hitler would have killed a lot more people Jan 6th.

 

[ZiprHead]

Does anyone really doubt that if Trump were allowed to continue he would become another Hitler?

Hitler had ideas.

He wasn't just an empty pathological narcissist.

Hitler would have killed a lot more people Jan 6th.

It took many years before Hitler started killing. We know Trump's followers aren't above doing so.

What were Hitler's ideas?

Rabid nationalism? Trump [X]

Others bad? Trump [X]

Dictatorship good? Trump [X]

Genocide good? Trump [Definitely maybe]

 

[untermensche]

The Beer Hall Putsch was in 1923.

Trump uses nationalism. He does not care about the United States.

Trump is a con man. Not a man of ideas.

Hitler completely transformed the German society.

Trump could not build a wall.

Hitler took power and never let go.

Trump had the power and Joe Biden took it from him.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

But if Hitler were still alive, of course he could claim credit for not being Trump. Why would any rational person care?

Obviously you care

You won the last Defense of Hitler thread, looks like you're trying for an encore.

I see you are still having trouble distinguishing between fantasy and reality.

Quit trying to revise history. You wrote it, it is public record, you cannot change what you wrote. Anyone can read it. I know you are embarrassed that you defended Hitler, but it doesn't change that you did.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

As soon as you see capitalism you then see massive violence to subjugate others.

Person A: I need work done, I have money
Person B: I can do work, I want money. Deal?
Person A: Deal.
untermenche: Quit subjugating me!

Brutality and exploitation of the weak to serve your purposes IS capitalism.

Person A: I need work done, I have money
Person B: I can do work, I want money. Deal?
Person A: Deal.
untermenche: Quit exploiting me!

Profit arises when workers are robbed of the fruits of labor.

Person A: I got work done that I needed done.
Person B: I got money that I needed.
untermensche: quit robbing me!

Capitalism turns justice and morality on it's head.

Person A: I am happy with how our deal worked out.
Person B: I am happy with how our deal worked out.
untermensche: Quit being so immoral to me!

Capitalism pollutes everything. Beginning with the mind.

Person A: Maybe we can do this again.
Person B: I would like that.
untermensche: Quit polluting my mind!

 

[ZiprHead]

The Beer Hall Putsch was in 1923.

Trump uses nationalism. He does not care about the United States.

Trump is a con man. Not a man of ideas.

Hitler completely transformed the German society.

Trump could not build a wall.

Hitler took power and never let go.

Trump had the power and Joe Biden took it from him.

And he came damned close to taking back that power.

I'm not saying he wasn't stopped. I'm saying what if he wasn't.

 

[laughing dog]

Obviously you care

Nope. But apparently you do, since you keep bringing Hitler up.

Quit trying to revise history.

I am not a libertarian - revising history is your MO.

You wrote it, it is public record, you cannot change what you wrote. Anyone can read it. I know you are embarrassed that you defended Hitler, but it doesn't change that you did.

Posting fantasies you believe in does not make them true.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Nope.

Then why do you keep talking about it?

You wrote it, it is public record, you cannot change what you wrote. Anyone can read it. I know you are embarrassed that you defended Hitler, but it doesn't change that you did.

Posting fantasies you believe in does not make them true.

Saying history is a fantasy is your consistent MO.

 

[laughing dog]

Then why do you keep talking about it?

Posting fantasies you believe in does not make them true.

Saying history is a fantasy is your consistent MO.

LoL, the ironic “no u r” response.

My beloved maternal grandfather lost most of his family in the Nazi genocide. I would never defend Hitler.

You can continue to fling your baseless and unsubstantiated accusations. You have derailed a number of threads with your baseless and unsubstantiated accusations I suspect your behavior will continue.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Then why do you keep talking about it?

Posting fantasies you believe in does not make them true.

Saying history is a fantasy is your consistent MO.

My beloved maternal grandfather lost most of his family in the Nazi genocide. I would never defend Hitler.

You say that, while defending him. Twice now.