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Trump VS COVID-19 Threat

Biden just gave a speech on the virus and omfg, what a relief to hear someone sounding like a competent president again. The contrast to Trump's whinefest last night is so stark.

Yeah, but according to some people here, Biden only makes sense half the time, so he'll probably botch the next thing. [/sarcasm]

Sanders also gave a decent speech today. To be fair, there was one thing all three had in common, they all looked old and tired. Old and tired is what America wants.
 
... to discuss their future plans as dictator friends, flying all together on a nice private jet.

Too formal.
They need a more relaxed atmosphere.
Maybe a hot tub meeting?

So, apparently Trump already beat us to the punch:

Brazilian official who met Trump and Pence at Mar-a-Lago tests positive for coronavirus

So if both Bonespurs and gay Race Bannon go down for the count, guess who gets to take over.
 

So if both Bonespurs and gay Race Bannon go down for the count, guess who gets to take over.

So, it may seem like the answer is Pelosi, but it isn't.

She gets to appoint someone, but who she appoints probably can't be her, according to the text, as it must be an "officer" which arguably means an "officer of the United States" so specifically not a congressman. So, not her.
 

So if both Bonespurs and gay Race Bannon go down for the count, guess who gets to take over.

So, it may seem like the answer is Pelosi, but it isn't.

She gets to appoint someone, but who she appoints probably can't be her, according to the text, as it must be an "officer" which arguably means an "officer of the United States" so specifically not a congressman. So, not her.
well, not PERMANENTLY, but we've spent the last three years with 'Acting' directors and assistants and secretaries...
 
the text does say the speaker would act as president.
 
Disneyland just announced they are closing.

I'm so shocked :D Down 13% today w/o this news...this could get them down by more than 50% from their peak.

https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...OVID-19-Threat&p=768580&viewfull=1#post768580

It's a mickey mouse operation anyway. :D
I dipped a toe back into the market late today... I figure it can't lose more than about another 15 percent before the tangible assets represented by a share of x exceed its cost. (I'll buy in some more if it does.) It might not bounce right back to the 29k djia level, but I'm comfortable that a lot of things are quite undervalued right now.
 
Bernie Addresses the Nation on the Health and Economic Crisis - YouTube (starts a bit after 12:00 - a common problem in Bernie Sanders's campaign videos)

Former Vice President Joe Biden addresses the coronavirus pandemic – 3/12/2020 - YouTube

Good speeches. They both understand what needs to be done. They also have canceled campaign rallies. BS proposes that the pharma companies sell their products at cost - no price gouging. He also proposes mobilizing medical students and retired medical people. Also that we listen to the appropriate scientists.

Both BS and JB agree on assistance to people who can't get much work, like unemployment insurance, JB at least also to small businesses.

I was reminded of Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat - The International Churchill Society - his speech on 1940 May 13, during WWII.

Rep. Katie Porter on Twitter: "I did the math: a full battery of coronavirus testing costs at minimum $1,331.
I also did the legal research: the Administration has the authority to make testing free for every American TODAY.
I secured a commitment from a high-level Trump official that they’d actually do it. https://t.co/RmolCtmNbG" / Twitter

He gave a lot of evasive answers before KP succeeded in getting that commitment out of him.

JohnRJohnson on Twitter: "@RepKatiePorter An insurance company told a friend of mine not 2 hours ago that the uncovered cost of the coronavirus test is >$4,000. And the company will NOT cover that cost unless she uses their network doctor or hospital. This is taking TO GODDAMN LONG, Katie." / Twitter
 
Coronavirus: Six of President Trump's claims fact-checked - BBC News

Claim 1
"The US has done a very good job on testing. When people need a test they can get a test."

Demonstrably false. Only 26 per million people up to March 11, as opposed to South Korea's 4,000. As of March 10, the UK has done 400 tests and Italy 1,000 tests per million people.

Claim 2
"We made a life-saving move with early action on China. Now we must take the same action with Europe."

That may have worked back then, but it's too late now.

Claim 3
When asked about WHO data on the virus's death rate: "I think the 3.4% is really a false number... Personally, I think the number is way under 1%."

The "stable genius" claimed that it was a "hunch". A recent estimate is about 1%.

Claim 4
On 9 March: "Last year 37,000 Americans died from the common flu. Nothing is shut down, life and the economy go on... Think about that."

But it isn't very disruptive because of vaccines and immunity from previous outbreaks. Flu typically has a mortality rate of 0.1% -- COVID-19 has more like 1%.

Claim 5
On 7 March: "Very soon, we're going to come up [with a vaccine]."

Except that a thoroughly tested one will only be available by the middle of next year.

Claim 6
On 29 February: "We've taken the most aggressive actions to confront the coronavirus. They are the most aggressive taken by any country."

China and Italy have both beaten the US by large factors here.
 
Coronavirus: Who Trump supporters blame for virus 'hysteria' - BBC News - "But some Trump supporters say the growing crisis is largely the work of a familiar villain - the US media."

Right-wing radio host Dan Bongino addressed 2,000 Trump followers in an airport-hotel convention room.

After describing the President and his staff as making heroic efforts, he stated that
the president's power had limits - and that the virus was "very dangerous" and "highly contagious".

"He's not the Messiah," he said. "He can't just wave a wand and make this go away."

That the president is not an omnipotent political deity who leaves adversaries, human and viral alike, trembling in his wake was perhaps an unusual admission in a room full of supporters decked out in Donald Trump gear, surrounded by vendors hawking Donald Trump hats, t-shirts, hot sauce and posters of a beaming Trump family that proclaimed "God, Life, Trump".
DB blamed the news media for being "engaged in a pathetic disgusting pile-on" to make it seem like the Trump Admin is not doing enough. Referring to the Trump Admin's efforts,
Despite those efforts, Trump hasn't found a way to arrest the steep drop in the stock market over the past few weeks, however. Given that the president has frequently boasted about market gains over the past three years, this reversal of fortune threatens to undermine what would have been a key selling point for his re-election campaign in the autumn.
He has nobody to blame but himself for his poor performance as a leader.
 
Fox News was just talking about how when the Swine Flu came about under Obama's administration, Obama enacted NO TRAVEL BAN and the disease spread to 60 million Americans. Yet, the media wasn't making fun of Obama for not doing enough. Trump declared a state of emergency 3 weeks after the first outbreak and demanded military bases be quarantined. That's the first time in DECADES military bases were quarantined.

Trump has done more than any other President has done in terms of a pandemic.

Too bad liberal media won't tell you this. Hannity just said these are facts over feelings.
 
Fox News was just talking about how when the Swine Flu came about under Obama's administration, Obama enacted NO TRAVEL BAN and the disease spread to 60 million Americans. Yet, the media wasn't making fun of Obama for not doing enough. Trump declared a state of emergency 3 weeks after the first outbreak
after first telling a lot of lies about the virus and how prepared we are.
Lied about his being knowledgeable on the subject YET unaware that the flu kills people.

After three years of becoming famous for lying to us about EVERYTHING, he just has no credibility. He cannot calm the nation by convincing people he is in charge, has a plan, and cares about Americans more than his fucking reputation... just like you, comparing Bonespurs' response to Obama's.
I'd rather discuss what he can and will do for anyone who cannot afford to take a sivk day so they'll go flip burgers or fold tacos.
 
Fox News was just talking about how when the Swine Flu came about under Obama's administration, Obama enacted NO TRAVEL BAN and the disease spread to 60 million Americans. Yet, the media wasn't making fun of Obama for not doing enough. Trump declared a state of emergency 3 weeks after the first outbreak and demanded military bases be quarantined. That's the first time in DECADES military bases were quarantined.

Trump has done more than any other President has done in terms of a pandemic.

Too bad liberal media won't tell you this. Hannity just said these are facts over feelings.

Bonespurs was briefed on COVID 19 three months ago and did nothing until just a few weeks ago.
 
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